Nobody dies from old age anymore. 

Trump won every one of these swing states in 2016

RCP Averages:

August 24, 2016

WI:  Clinton  + 11.5

PA:  Clinton  + 9.2

NC:  Clinton  + 1.7

FL:  Clinton  +  3.6

MI:  Clinton  +  8.0

OH:  Clinton  +  4.8

August 24, 2020

WI:  Biden  +  6.5

PA:  Biden  +  5.7

NC:  Trump  + 0.6

FL:  Biden  +  5.0

MI:  Biden  +  6.7

OH:  Biden  +  2.3

CBS/You Gov Poll Post DNC:

Among Independents

Trump  47% (+10)

Biden  37%

WRBI radio commentators said Chatard's defense was dominate in this game. I'm amazed Chatard has defeated East Central three time in the past five years.

38 minutes ago, Lysander said:

I probably need to explain first principles for me.  

I haven’t given a single downtick in the 12-13 years I’ve been around here.

I’ve always figured that if I really have a disagreement with someone, I’d argue it out.  Otherwise, I just like being smarmy.

But then....that’s just me.

I have been on this forum since 2005 and I have never submitted a downtick either. 

3 hours ago, dazed and confused said:

Part of the downtick IMO is Howe has discredited the CDC but still uses their data in arguments... that and he rarly comments on the real topic, always has to be political and people are tired of it(part of the reason why so many topics have been closed in the past.

There is nothing "political" about a quote from the CDC Director and a statement from the American Medical Association.

37 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Which is the better way to die?

CDC Director Robert Redfield stated "Suicide and drug overdoses are killing more young people than COVID as the two pre-existing epidemics have been exacerbated by the coronavirus pandemic". "We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID". "We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above the excess that we had as background than we are seeing deaths from COVID".

The American Medical Association stated "Over 35 states have reported increases in opiod-related mortality as well as ongoing concerns for those with a mental illness or substance abuse disorder".

8 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

I'm glad Marion County Department of Public Health decided to open schools this way. It plainly was not safe to open up all in person. We've seen other area schools try that and then have to switch to hybrid or virtual.

Based on CDC data, over five times as many school aged children died from influenza as have died from the coronavirus.

28 minutes ago, PHJIrish said:

So, you believe that if you don't have COVID, and you don't know anyone that has it, then it either doesn't exist or it isn't serious? 

No

3 hours ago, gonzoron said:

They're great at playing cards. That's about it.

They're even better at developing immunity to the coronavirus.

2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/any-excuse-riot-minneapolis-descends-violence-over-police-shooting-fake-news

I guess the government needs to give all these rioters a job, so you know, they would have to sleep at night instead of having the time & energy to randomly destroy public and private property?

 

They are already employed as rioters by George Soros. They work the night shift.

2 hours ago, JQWL said:

I don't generally look for facts in Facebook memes but, the U.S. tried the herd immunity thing for 2 months before much of the country locked down in March. 180,000 deaths later and it hasn't kicked in yet for everyone.

The U.S. has never "tried the her immunity thing". The "experts" and media said "the coronavirus was no threat to Americans" and downplayed the coronavirus until mid March.

Herd immunity is why our plant has had no further spread of the coronavirus for the past 110 days despite 800-900 union workers who refuse to wear masks or social distance while working 10 hour shifts 6-7 days per week. Hundreds play cards in groups of four at picnic tables every day. No one is more than two feet away from the other three and no one is wearing a mask.

11 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Covington Catholic's Nick Sandmann: 'I Would Not Be Canceled'

https://reason.com/2020/08/25/nick-sandmann-rnc-spech-republican-convention-covington/

 

Nicholas Sandmann was a multi millionaire before the age of 18 as CNN and the Washington Post settled defamation lawsuits. ABC, CBS, The New York Times, Gannett and Rolling Stone are next. The liberal mainstream media is fake news and the scum of humanity.

1 hour ago, DumfriesYMCA said:

This is one of those “you’re suppose to return the shopping carts to where they belong” things. 
 

will anything happen if you don’t? Nope. But what does it say if you refuse to and just leave it in a parking spot 

 

at least that is my thoughts on it lol. 

I attribute the union workers who refuse to wear masks or social distance as typical union resistance mentality to any directive which is not covered in the collective bargaining agreement.

10 minutes ago, Gipper said:

 What are we doing wrong?

Reacting to the coronavirus as if it were more deadly than the Bubonic Plague.

I work in a manufacturing plant with over 1,000 union members where 80-90% refuse to wear masks or social distance. Our plant never shut down and has worked 10 hours per day 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak. We have had 5 people test positive for the coronavirus on two separate occasions. We have high tech temperature scanners for everyone who enters the plant. I observe hundreds of people playing cards at picnic tables each day during their breaks and lunch periods. They sit across from each other and no one is more than two feet from the other three workers. Our plant has had no further spread of the coronavirus during the past 3 and a half months.

It would be interesting to conduct coronavirus antibody tests on the entire workforce. I would not be surprised if 50% or more tested positive. I suspect the workforce has developed herd immunity and that is the reason the virus has not spread for 3 and a half months

Kids need to return to normal school. Especially IPS students. Parental guidance is their greatest weakness. Virtual classes will result in 30-40% not even logging in on any given day and running the streets instead.

The human immune system is the key to stopping the spread.  Our leaders have put their faith in sheltering in place and cheap non medical grade masks from China. Ridiculous!

Indianapolis Public Schools include Tech, Attucks, Shortridge, Washington and Manual. All other former IPS high schools have been closed due to charter school expansion throughout the inner city. Ben Davis, Warren, North Central, Pike, Southport, Perry Meridian, Decatur Central and the Lawrence schools are Marion County Township.

IPS is virtual until October.

14 hours ago, NEWGUY said:

FC vs Connersville cancelled.  Connersville has to many involved in contact tracing.

My nephew is the starting center for Connersville if the Spartans ever play this season.

I work in a manufacturing plant with over 1,000 union members where 80-90% refuse to wear masks or social distance. Our plant never shut down and has worked 10 hours per day 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak. We have had 5 people test positive for the coronavirus on two separate occasions. We have high tech temperature scanners for everyone who enters the plant. I observe hundreds of people playing cards at picnic tables each day during their breaks and lunch periods. They sit across from each other and no one is more than two feet from the other three workers. Our plant has had no further spread of the coronavirus during the past 3 and a half months.

It would be interesting to conduct coronavirus antibody tests on the entire workforce. I would not be surprised if 50% or more tested positive. I suspect the workforce has developed herd immunity and that is the reason the virus has not spread for 3 and a half months.

2 hours ago, Foobird said:

Welp.

Guerin Catholic just announced that they are cancelling in person classes and extra curricular events through September 6th due to a number of COVID cases.

No game vs Decatur Central.

This is 7 days into the school year... I don’t have a good feeling about the football season.

 

Do you know how many people tested positive?

14 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Just luck I guess?

 

It would be interesting to have coronavirus antibody tests conducted on all of the workforce. We know at least five people tested positive on two seperate occassions. I often wonder if herd immunity has occurred. Our workforce has worked a bunch of hours each week since the coronavirus outbreak and the union workers absolutely will not wear masks or social distance.

Anyone who believes cheap non medical grade masks from China are protecting them from the coronavirus lacks common sense.

I have already stated the manufacturing plant where I work employs over 1,000 union workers where 80-90% refuse to wear masks or social distance. I observe hundreds of people every day playing cards at picnic tables during their break and lunch periods. They sit across from one another in groups of four. No one is more than two feet from the other three and no one is wearing a mask. This has been going on since the company initiated a mandatory mask policy 3 months ago yet our plant has had no further spread of the coronavirus.