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    Curtis Hill hearing

    in Out of Bound Forum

    Posted · Edited by gonzoron

    1 hour ago, swordfish said:

    https://www.theindychannel.com/news/politics/curtis-hill-disciplinary-commission-hearing-day-3-woman-says-hill-propositioned-her-for-sex-in-2016

     

    INDIANAPOLIS — A former employee of Attorney General Curtis Hill said Wednesday that Hill used a vulgarity to proposition her for sex shortly after he was elected in 2016.

    The testimony was given by Kathleen Bowers, who worked for Hill when he was the Elkhart County prosecutor, on the third day of the Indiana Supreme Court Disciplinary Commission hearing on Hill. Hill's defense attorneys tried to block her from testifying, but they were overruled by Hearing Officer Myra C. Selby.

    The hearing, expected to last all week, is to determine if Hill faces any legal discipline for accusations of sexual misconduct. The Indiana Supreme Court will decide whether to impose a penalty, ranging from a reprimand to removal of Hill's law license. Hill has denied the allegations of inappropriate touching.

    Bowers testified that she was a dancer at an Elkhart event that Hill attended. She said she enjoys ballroom, tap and jazz dancing.

    After seeing her at the event, she said Hill would make comments about her dancing in September 2016. She said he told her about how he enjoyed her dancing and asked if he could get a dance lesson.

    Bowers said the comments made her uncomfortable, but said if he was serious, they could discuss a possible lesson. She said he then asked if he could get one for free, and that the dance would “need to be hot.”

    Bowers testified that Hill crossed a line a few months later. She said on Dec. 23, 2016, Hill visited her office and started discussing the dance lessons. At the time, Hill was less than a month away from being sworn in as Indiana attorney general.

    “I recall saying something that he would be leaving soon, and I didn't know if we'd be able to,” Bowers said.

    She said they kept bantering about the dancing lesson. She told him he would have to pay, but they could make the arrangement. But he said, again, that he wanted it for free.

    At some point in the conversation, Bowers said she told him, “I don’t think we’re talking about dancing anymore.”

    She said Hill responded by saying, “I don't think we were ever talking about dance.”

    Bowers said from that point in the conversation, they were talking more clearly about sex.

    At the end of their conversation, she said Hill leaned over the desk and said, “We should f---, because it would be hot.”

    Bowers said she told him she was married, and if it got out, it would not go well for her. She said she never explicitly told him no because she was uncomfortable and felt like she needed to joke her way out of it.

    Bowers also said Hill also called her office in January 2017, less than a month later. She said he asked if she had thought anymore about what he asked. She said she had, and her position hadn't changed.

    She then said Hill called her office on March 16, 2018, the day after the Sine Die party at AJ’s Lounge and left a voicemail. The attorneys from the Indiana Disciplinary Commission played the voicemail, after the defense’s objections were overruled. In the voicemail, Hill asks her to call him and leaves a number.

    Bowers testified that she returned the call because she was afraid he was going to come to her office. She said he asked if she had reconsidered what they discussed. She said her position had not changed and joked, "Don't call me, I'll call you."

    Bowers said she didn't hear from him after that.

    The defense attorney asked Bowers if she reported what Hill said to her to any of her supervisors or any federal agency, such as the EEOC.

    She said no, later telling the Disciplinary Commission attorney she was afraid of the consequences if she reported the comments.

    Other notes from Day 3 of the hearing:

    Hill took the stand, called by the Disciplinary Commission. He was asked many questions about the organization and duties of the attorney general’s office. The commission attorney began asking Hill about a piece of evidence, but the court broke for lunch. Hill did not return to the stand on Wednesday.

    The defense also called multiple witnesses throughout the morning and afternoon. Gwen Robinson, the owner of AJ’s Lounge. Robinson said nobody approached her to say Hill was overserved. She also said the maximum occupancy of the bar was 60 people, and there may have been a few more than that on the night of the party.

    The defense called Michael Conway, a legislative assistant for Indiana Senate Republicans to be questioned. Conway said he saw Rep. Mara Candelaria Reardon, one of Hill’s accusers, dancing in front of the bar with a legislative intern for a lobbying firm. He called it a “flirtatious” dance. To that point, none of the other witnesses called had reported seeing Candelaria Reardon dancing that night. Conway also said he saw Hill at the party, but Hill was too intoxicated to respond.

    The defense also called Reps. Ryan Hatfield, D-Evansville; Ryan Morrison, R-Brazil; and Jim Lucas, R-Seymour. Hatfield said he saw Candelaria Reardon at the party. He said she approached him and said something to the effect of, “Curtis Hill is a creep.” Morrison and Lucas both gave similar statements – that they didn’t specifically see Hill interacting with any of the four accusers.

    Lastly, the defense called Tony Samuel, a local lobbyist. Samuel said he spent part of the evening with Hill, and they went to the party together. When asked if he saw Hill acting inappropriately, Samuel said, “Absolutely not.”

    Samuel said Hill was slightly intoxicated but wouldn’t classify him as “drunk.” He said he didn’t see Hill interact with any of the accusers, and said “there would've been a buzz in the room” if it had happened.

     

    Maybe the Attorney General isn't the model of morality I thought he was in his inner circle of attorney friends......While propositioning a lady while married isn't illegal, it certainly isn't moral.....

    On the bright side(for Hill) any Presidential aspirations he may have harbored have not been dashed due to bad morals. It’s the New Normal

    Conference Indiana Sectional Rd .1

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    Posted

    Indpls. Tech  @ Southport 

    Columbus North @ Franklin Central 

    Terre Haute South  at Indianapolis Cathedral

    Terre Haute North @ Plainfield  or Decatur Central

    Castle @ Bloomington North  

    Evansville North @ Bloomington South     

    Week 10 Sectional Rd 1 ACAC & NE8 Pick'em

    in Topics

    Posted

    New Haven at Jay County

    Northwestern at Heritage

    Fairfield at Bluffton

    Eastside at Woodlan

    South Adams at Tri-Central

    Southern Wells at Monroe Central

    Caston at Adams Central

    East Noble at Northridge

    Columbia City at DeKalb

    Angola at Leo

    Huntington North at South Side

    Bellmont at Norwell

    Hoosier Conference Pick 'Em 1st Round Sectionals

    in Topics

    Posted

    1 Point Games

    West Lafayette @ Hamilton Heights

    Rensselaer @ Wheeler

    Tipton @ Frankton

    Clinton Central @ Lafayette Central Catholic

    2 Point Games

    Hanover Central @ Twin Lakes(Assuming the officials keep a close eye on the clock operator-worst one I've seen all year-in 2 different games. Varsity and JV both.)

    3 Point Games

    Lapel @ Eastern

    Hobart @ Hammond Morton

    Muncie Central @ Greenfield Central

    Peru @ Oak Hill

    4 Point Games

    River Forest @ Benton Central

    Pioneer @ Cass

    Northwestern @ Heritage

    Impeachment inquiry

    in Out of Bound Forum

    Posted

    "Lynching" is a bad choice of words, no matter who uses it.

    I wonder if Nixon used it also? His road to impeachment had many similarities to today's proceedings. An investigation was launched a year before a formal Impeachment Inquiry. That's what we have now, an investigation. And I feel an investigation is warranted.

    Do I feel someone made a mistake by calling the investigation an impeachment inquiry? Yes.

    What's Wrong With This Picture?

    in Officiating Forum

    Posted · Edited by gonzoron

    16 minutes ago, Bobref said:

    b. Charge into or throw an opponent to the ground after he is obviously out of the play,”

    I need to show this to my son. And his Mom. Two games in a row he's been flagged for UNR. Mom all upset, I told her both times it was good calls. "Well they've been holding him and punching him the whole game", lol.

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