8 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

But isn't this "quarantine" really just "don't come into the school building"?   How can government school officials force an individual to quarantine in their own home, and not go anywhere else?

 

You just explained everything. The only thing keeping anyone honest is the chance of a season for the players. If not, they will just do their thing.

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

More than 200 Delaware Community students quarantined

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/2020/08/11/coronavirus-del-com-students-quarantined-royerton-eaton-albany-delta-schools-covid-19/3342523001/

 

Appears to be turning into a complete sh*tshow.................

 

Or they are just following protocols.. A crap show would be not quarantining anyone. 

10 hours ago, foxbat said:

While I appreciate that folks want to move on, it was just a bit over 5 months ago, on this very site, that the following post showed up to, I'm assuming, discredit or play down, COVID.  Given 160,000+ dead since then, it hasn't aged well.

 

Its aged really well if you consider the estimate from "experts" was 2 Million deaths by now..

7 hours ago, Plymouthfan91 said:

Here's the deal.  Everyone has their own opinion of risk.  To be totally one-sided and not see the other person's side is well...short-sided.  To downplay a mother's concern for her child and the fact he could've died is wrong.  I hope you don't have anyone you care about get really sick or die from this.  

Now do I think we should play?  The answer is yes.  But if people on the team or in their classroom get sick they will have to sit out and quarantine.  If they test positive they will miss 4 weeks of the season between the 14 days off and the 10 days of practice, not to mention the IHSAA stating that the students will need to get their heart checked and cleared by a doctor.  This is a risk because we don't have any idea about the long term effects of this virus or if you get it once will you be immune from getting it again.  So if you are asymptomatic the first time will you be asymptomatic the second time?  

So if some people feel that they don't want to play or if some schools or conferences don't want to play that is their assessment of the risk.  Instead of being a jerk about it accept their feelings.

Thanks for the the name calling. Typical 2020. I dont agree with you, and im a........ Look man. Myself and my 76 year old father had covid. My dad had severe flu symptoms but recovered fine. I lost my smell and had runny poops for a couple days. My wife works on a covid floor as a nurse. I am a first responder. Trust me when I say that I understand the severity of Covid. I have transported patients to the hospital that called 911 because they thought they were dying. Have you ever looked and cared for someone who honestly believes they are going to the hospital to die? Its not fun. Patients were scared and so was I. March and April were terrifying times at work for me and my wife. It is something I will never ever forget. But now we know SO SO much more with patient care. Its become routine. We have done so much to improve our death numbers, and its working. Media screams case spikes, but im telling you the risk for death is way down. I am empathetic towards the fear of the unknown, but I am comfortable with what I know about covid. I lived it in patient care and in being a patient. So please call me a .......because I am self admittedly a huge whopping peepee most of the time. 

20 minutes ago, TheStatGuy said:

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/brady-feeney-speaks-out-we-want-to-play

 

Feeney said hes not cleared to practice yet. 

 

Tom Allen said hes back with team but is still being evaluated and doing tests

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-coach-tom-allen-upon-learning-of-players-covid-19-complications-you-get-this-sick-feeling-in-your-gut/

So keep posting lies.

Lies??? I guess I have more of a inside source than you and your media articles. FACT is he is becoming healthy again. NOBODY is forcing anyone to play football, it is truly all voluntary. You would think that kids and parents were being held at gunpoint to play. That is so far from the fact. If you don't want to play dont. If you do not want to go to a game... dont go. It really is that simple. Risks are way down in our state. Rising cases and lowering death rates... hmmm. You are the stat guy, look it up.. in the whole state of Indiana today there are 538 confirmed covid patients hospitalized... Lets just pretend that they are all in there from covid only. We are a state of 6.77 MILLION people. Club sports have been going on ALL summer long. Deaths still dropping. I guess #FlattenTheCurve was never about saving people. This has become a pandemic of liability now, not death. Its sad. I am not descended from fearful men, but some of you are. Oh yea... I am a Covid Survivor. I am one of those stats. My dad 76 with underlying health conditions.. Covid Survivor.. The proof is in the puddin.

28 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

So goeth the Big 10 so goeth the IHSAA?

 

I would hope not.. there is not supporting data in Indiana to cancel HS Football. Deaths continue to drop and have flattened EVEN with this "spike". Thats even with the lag to death timeline. Testing is inaccurate both ways. Then about 6 weeks ago the term "positivity rate" was introduced as we flattened the death curve.. We can skew that if we want.. everyone go get tested. For positivity rate to mean anything you have to have a constant. And we just have open testing.. im not getting tested unless I am sick. So positivity rate, to me, is a better measure of the chance that you could have covid IF you feel sick. But all of the sudden deaths don't matter. Then the mom of that freshman IU linemen makes a huge post how her son is really struggling, media picks it up runs with it, would have thought he died. Actually he is back with his teammates, attending workouts and healthy.. imagine that.. at the rate we won't play football for a decade... 

17 hours ago, Guest said:

Ever see their stadium?  😉 

Yes, its falling apart and needs a good power washing.. played there in the 90s win it was nice. Never lost there either.

Rumor is they all went Merrillville. That would give Merrillville 6 Morton kids. 3 with big time offers. A running back from Illinois and a qb from Illinois... they must have the secret when it comes to transfers.

They are going to discuss new by laws and date changes..

Heard a VERY strong rumor IHSAA is meeting today about changing dates of football

Question.... out of all the positive cases in football players and coaches so far this season, how many have been hospitalized, had serious symptoms, or died? Or better yet...passed it along..   

Yea im not assuming here.. just want to talk football. 

Time to get off of covid and get back on football for a bit. We (myself included are needing some football talk) I know this thread has been posted before, but let's update. Whats everyone's top ten by class assuming all play.

I would be willing to bet that more footbal kids would catch the virus with no football than if the season gets played..... give them a reason to make healthy choices...

RISE UP MARION COUNTY..kids lives being devastating over something that doesnt affect them.

On 7/27/2020 at 4:17 PM, Titan32 said:

“I know I’m in the minority when it comes to high school coaches. Most want to play, but the risk doesn’t equal the reward.

What risk is he talking about?

I cant wait to watch Hobart senior Bobby Babcock play this year.. absolute nightmare last year. Added 20 good pounds this offseason..

1 hour ago, oldtimeqb said:

Agreed.

I know this is hard for some to believe, but there are 90 other counties besides Marion and Lake. 

I can only speak for Lake County, but cases are mainly higher in a few of the cities in the county, not the whole county. Its a school by school decision.

8 hours ago, sr1 said:

This report says that this 9 year old girl had no underlying conditions. 

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/07/24/9-year-old-florida-girl-who-died-of-covid-19-remembered-at-vigil/

https://abc7chicago.com/girl-drowns-child-indiana-drowning-lakeshore-camp-resort/6314341/

This girl tragically passed too.. the list goes on. When ANY kid dies it makes the news... they qre not dying in masses there has been under 200 deaths under the age of 24 in the usa... so share all the articles... its just not what you say it is.

9 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Kids are not giving it to teachers because they have not been in school since March 13th. Kind of a no brainer there. 

In other countries 

On 7/24/2020 at 2:14 PM, Robert said:

And it's been said before, by people much more medically educated than most of us here, that it is a rare occasion when someone dies of a fluke and it is counted as covid related.  But I do have a license to teach history, so you've got that. 

Its also been said before, and backed by data that kids are not dying from covid. Also backed by studies.  Kids are not giving it to teachers. But hey, its America, you don't have to look at both sides.

2 hours ago, cw13 said:

Interesting read

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/preps/2020/07/24/high-school-football-may-not-safe-amid-covid-19/5500909002/

Epidemiologist are finally getting there 2 seconds of fame. Facts are better than opinions at this point. Multiple schools have paused due to cases.. has anyone heard of any of the kids being any more than a little sick?...testing is less than inaccurate. What we do know is there is not kids dropping dead from this. More kids are dying in things we deem tragic, but overlooked, such as overdoses. Studies overseas show teachers have q very low chance of catching anything from a kid. Its more the other way around. Also CDC just put out that isolation based on tests is bogus. You should isolate only based on symptoms. They also go on to pretty much say that feverish people are the spreaders. Quit being so scared. Let the kids play.

Unfortunately, we keep going from...the death rate is what matters...to... positivity rate matters.... to... cases matter!!! All the while the death rate tanks... this was and is about saving lives.. and we are doing it. The damage that not going to school will do is unrepairable. I feel sorry for a generation that has had to watch adults whine and complain over EVERYTHING. There is no end in sight. When covid goes, you can guarantee we will have something else shutting us down. We will never be the same.. 

23 hours ago, Bobref said:

People focusing on the declining death rate as evidence that resuming “normalcy” is appropriate are looking at an incomplete picture. COVID 19 is not an “all or nothing” disease like influenza. You get the flu, you recover or, in a very small % of patients you die. There’s generally no in between. Increasingly, researchers are finding that is not the case with COVID 19. Although COVID 19 is many times more likely to kill you than the flu, researchers are now finding a disturbing rate of complications in recovered patients. The most serious appears to be some type of coagulopathy which causes blood clots to form, which can result in heart attacks, pulmonary emboli, or strokes, including strokes in very young people. There are also neurological and kidney complications, not to mention permanent lung scarring. So, the next time someone poo-poos COVID-19 because it “only” has a 1% fatality rate, keep in mind that the rate of those experiencing significant and potentially permanent health effects is many multiples of that.

Why is focusing on the death rate so bad.... that logic you have is twisted... isn't the idea to save people........ Jesus, you guys are unreal sometimes... you have zero endgame... i feel even when there is a vaccine people will find a reason to cancel everything. We are losing a generations mental health by locking down. Not to mention the lockdown causes death. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/35-percent-of-excess-deaths-from-pandemic-not-caused-by-covid-19

What were the deaths in that group? Asking for a friend.