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8 minutes ago, Whiting89 said:
Sorry forgot we have educators here not businessmen
Overhead refers to the ongoing business expenses not directly attributed to creating a product or service. It is important for budgeting purposes but also for determining how much a company must charge for its products or services to make a profit. In short, overhead is any expense incurred to support the business while not being directly related to a specific product or service.
the Chesterton ad said it would be pointless to hire concession security and ticket takers the overhead expenses when you limit the attendance
As an economics teacher, I take offense to that... 😉
Point is well taken though...
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Just now, Irishman said:
And another downward spiral is going full force. Come on guys.
I felt like I had seen this topic before...
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On 8/4/2020 at 10:31 PM, from_the_sidelines007 said:
According QuestDiagnostics and LabCorp, the two largest laboratory chains in the U.S., the Medicare rates (likely the lowest cost) to process an antibody test is around $50 and $100-$200 for a PCR swab test
Who is going to pay for that?
The school can not afford that x's athletes/coaches.
I'm hearing that some colleges/universities are using a spit test. Spit in a tube and send for testing. The COVID lives in our spit.
Anyone know how long the spit test takes to get a result and how long it takes and how accurate is that test?
as always, the game is better
from_the_sidelines007
I don't know about accuracy, but I was talking to a former student and player who is now at Purdue and he said that the spit test cost around $100 and he had to log in somewhere and video himself spitting into the tube to verify that it was actually him who did the spitting.
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Interesting tidbit I hadn't noted on the Illinois plan from anything I had read/heard/seen previously; while they have moved their season to the "spring," they will not be contesting a state championship, only the lowest "championship" level of their tournament.
His take appears in lockstep with everything that Cox had said prior to his retirement; whether you agree with his/their position or not, I think it best that this presents as seamless a transition as possible.
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9 minutes ago, foxbat said:
Most of the waivers that parents sign for athletic activity are written specifically with the assumption that the parent WILL NOT be available in the case of an injury accident and that's how the schools initially expect to handle those incidents when they are in planning for the season. If parents ARE available, either in person or phone, those items in the waiver can then be overridden at the time of injury. I would, however, expect that the waivers give fairly explicit indication of how injury is handled with the assumption that parents won't be available ... they usually provide language like the staff is allowed to use their best judgment in action taken.
Fair enough, and kind of what I expected. Still, I'm still going to ask our AT today what his preference would be on having versus not having a parent for each student-athlete accounting for Covid.
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Again, I couldn't edit my previous post, but I would be interested to have the take of an AT on this. My hunch would be that they would prefer to have a parent/guarding there in person to explain an injury rather than over the phone. I know plenty of typicaly well meaning, rational parents who would loose all cognition after hearing "your son has sustained an injury" over the phone. If I get the chance, I'll have to ask our AT today at practice what his thoughts would be since I am not sure we have any who are active on the GID (though we may and I just don't know it).
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30 minutes ago, TheStatGuy said:
Im sure someone will have that parents cell phone number.
Fair enough, and I've seen this done in an instance or two, but I'm guessing you will see a lot of pushback from parents on this one. Keeping students (student sections that is) out makes sense but banning all parents seems a bit much. If we're compromising here, I would rather allow one or two parents for each student-athlete than four for just my Seniors.
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Serious, legitimate question about the notion of not allowing at least one parent/guardian for all student-athletes in to watch these games: what happens if a student-athlete, let's say a Junior, sustains a serious injury during play? Typically, you would find that student-athlete's parents/guardians to disclose the nature of the injury, treatment, provide options, etc. I understand that there are times where a student-athlete's parents/guardians aren't there to begin with for whatever reason, but in this case you are denying them access. Maybe there are no repercussions, but it still is something that needs to be considered in would think.
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3 hours ago, Julio said:
Things looking good to start off the season for day 1 of practice, helmets only.
For what seems like the umpteenth year in a row, the weather could not be better. It always seemed like 15 years ago that the weather turned super hot and muggy like it was two weeks ago right around today.
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So... nothing then...
Pardon me while I get ready for practice tomorrow...
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So instead of spinning our wheels, again, does anyone know:
1) did this meeting actually take place? Or when is it to take place if it is this evening?
2) if it has taken place, has anything DEFINITVE been released?
Otherwise we literally could not beat a deader horse.
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24 minutes ago, Mayo77 said:
Good question. Health department could say no. Haven't heard percentage of colt fans allowed at games yet.
I think I read/heard somewhere that as of now it is 20 or 25%.
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Just now, Whiting89 said:
The problem is covid is lightning that won’t go away till next year. Why risk starting and having a partial season with no ending when you can swap it with baseball season and almost guarantee it will finish?
Zero chance a "swap" between football and baseball at the high school level is happening. If nothing else, its far too late in the calendar for that.
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32 minutes ago, foxbat said:
Thank you, I should have figured it had something to do with Horace Mann...
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37 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:
Could this be a time for schools to go back to a more traditional school timeline?
Start much closer to Labor Day and end around first week of June......
Get the 180 days in (or adjust lower.......) AND get rid of all the testing.
Im sure there’s more I’m leaving out.
If teachers worked less than the 180 days, I would be fine in a reduction in pay.
I could make up for it in officiating and getting a 3rd job.....like lawn care.
Just ideas.
This begs an interesting question, where does the 180 number come from? I honestly don't know, I just always assumed that the old "traditional" calendar had close to that but I don't know that for a fact.
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Here's a different question; what schools have already started? I saw this on the news last Thursday, Washington Township started 100% virtual but Greenfield-Central started in person.
Here's a more expansive story on Avon reopening on Wednesday.
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Just now, coachkj said:
If you're referring to me, no. Not offended at all. Its a cartoon. Of course it was referring to survival rate.
No I wasn't. Not only is the meme based on a cartoon, but it's based on the cartoon that has made its bones being over the top insensitive over the years. That's part of the reason why I wondered if they had done a Covid episode because it would not surprise me one bit if they had, and by the way, it probably would have been incredibly inappropriate and insensitive.
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For some reason it won't let me edit my previous post, but if the meme offends you because you don't feel it takes the situation seriously enough, I get that, but it says nothing about death rate in the pic, that's all.
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Not to nitpick, mainly because it ultimately doesn't matter anyway, but the meme says nothing about death rate. It says "...99.98% of us will remain." The number is still incorrect, but to not because of "bad math" related to death rate as you suggest.
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2 hours ago, Titan32 said:
I've watched just enough South Park to where I can actually hear Stan's dad saying this. Haven't watched for a long time though, have they actually done a Covid episode? Surely they haven't...
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5 minutes ago, DT said:
No, you just have a way of taking very simple solutions and overthinking them into oblivion.
These days, there are no simple solutions, only simple thoughts... doesn't mean they're bad thoughts, just not simple in application...
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16 minutes ago, LaSalle Lions 1976 said:
I mean as little contact as possible...explain a drill and get out of the way...limit long corrections...during games...coaches in pressbox with headsets to give information to the players.
It won't happen...but would lessen the amount of contact
Some observations from the past month's worth of workouts in relation to these:
1) When it comes to drill time, our current guidelines are to maintain social distancing (6 feet) during outdoor workouts. If we need to demonstrate a drill, for example, which requires that we break that distance, we must wear a mask. For my two cents; I have a mask hooked on one ear while I am outside of 6 feet so that if, and when, I have to demonstrate a drill I simply grab the other ear hook (or whatever the proper term for it is) and the mask is on long before I come within 6 feet. It was a bit tedious at first, but after a couple of days you just make it part of the norm.
2) As obvious by some of my posts, I am long winded by nature 😉 so this has actually forced me in the moment to be more succinct in my explanations when in close proximity to players (and masked) and/or be more pointed and focused in my verbal instructions from a distance.
3) With regards to games, I see where you are coming from, but you HAVE to have coaches on the sidelines. The chaos of anywhere from 20-60 teenagers running around on the sideline without adults with them is... unimaginable. That said, I think that the IHSAA extending the sideline box for players will help, and again, our current guidance mandates masking when you are within 6 feet, so as long as coaches on the sidelines are masked it seems as though healthcare professionals are, to a degree okay with that.
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After looking at the study, a couple things jump to mind:
1) None of that seems all that surprising, unfortunately...
2) Pages 9, 10, and 11 of the study reference "Historical Data," does the study cite where that data comes from? Its' probably there somewhere and I just missed it.
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8 minutes ago, LaSalle Lions 1976 said:
They can be. Although the severity of their symptoms seem to be small...there is the chance they can carry it to the adults.
All I want is a football season this fall...if adults don't need to be near the kids to make this happen...all the better.
I'm curious as to what you mean by this... social distancing or something additional?
IHSAA FANS GUIDELINES
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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Your point is certainly valid in theory. I could launch into a full lecture on the topic, but falling asleep while at your computer is probably not ideal. Suffice it to say though that, from the other side, the increase in free livestreaming causes a hit to the traditional notion of supply and demand; i.e. if the price is too high I/we will simply livestream the event. That's not even to discuss the ethics of the situation, but that's enough economics for now.