whiteshoes Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Some big changes from last week's poll with a lot of out-of-state matchups. 1. Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (3-0) 2. Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (2-0) 3. Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy (2-0) 4. Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (2-0) 5. Miami (FL) Central (2-0) 6. Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (2-1) 7. Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (2-0) 8. Chandler (AZ) (1-0) 9. Buford (GA) (3-0) 10. Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (1-1) 11. Corona (CA) Centennial (2-1) 12. Houston (TX) North Shore (2-0) 13. Plantation (FL) American Heritage (2-0) 14. Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (2-0) 15. Washington (DC) St. Johns (1-1) 16. Duncanville (TX) (2-0) 17. Loganville (GA) Grayson (3-0) 18. Austin (TX) Westlake (2-0) 19. Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (3-0) 20. Denton (TX) Guyer (2-0) 21. Nashville (TN) Lipscomb Academy (3-0) 22. Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (3-0) 23. Miami (FL) Northwestern (2-0) 24. Southlake (TX) Carroll (2-0) 25. Fort Lauderdale (FL) Cardinal Gibbons (2-0) 26. Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (1-1) 27. Katy (TX) (2-0) 28. East St. Louis (IL) (1-1) 29. Lakeland (FL) (1-0) 30. Phenix City (AL) Central (3-0) 31. Fairburn (GA) Langston Hughes (3-0) 32. Kahuku (HI) (3-0) 33. Scottsdale (AZ) Saguaro (0-1) 34. Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller (3-0) 35. Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (3-0) 36. Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (1-1) 37. Chandler (AZ) Hamilton (1-0) 38. Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (2-0) 39. Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (1-1) 40. Miami (FL) Columbus (2-0) 41. Arlington (TX) Martin (2-0) 42. Kennesaw (GA) North Cobb (1-1) 43. San Mateo (CA) Serra (2-0) 44. Baton Rouge (LA) Catholic (0-1) 45. Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita (2-0) 46. Lehi (UT) Skybridge (4-0) 47. Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (3-0) 48. Tampa (FL) Jesuit (2-0) 49. Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (3-0) 50. Bixby (OK) (2-0) 51. Tampa (FL) Tampa Bay Tech (2-0) 52. Concord (CA) De LaSalle (1-1) 53. Chesapeake Bay (VA) Oscar Smith (1-0) 54. Long Beach (CA) Poly (3-0) 55. Orlando (FL) Edgewater (2-0) 56. Marietta (GA) Walton (1-1) 57. Humble (TX) Atascocita (1-1) 58. Warren (MI) De LaSalle Collegiate (2-0) 59. Zachary (LA) (1-0) 60. Allen (TX) (1-1) 61. Madison (MA) Central (2-0) 62. Belleville (MI) (2-0) 63. Alabaster (AL) Thompson (1-2) 64. West Chester (OH) Lakota West (3-0) 65. Mission Viejo (CA) (2-1) 66. Ellenwood (GA) Cedar Grove (2-0) 67. Indianapolis (IN) Cathedral (2-1) 68. DeSoto (TX) (1-1) 69. Folsom (CA) (2-1) 70. Venice (FL) (1-1) 71. Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (3-1) 72. Ramsey (NJ) Don Bosco Prep (1-1) 73. Chandler (AZ) Basha (1-0) 74. Suwanee (GA) Collins Hill (2-0) 75. Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (3-0) 76. Graham (WA) Grahma-Kapowsin (1-0) 77. Bryant (AR) (1-0) 78. Longview (TX) (2-0) 79. Pensacola (FL) Pine Forest (2-0) 80. Roebuck (SC) Dorman (3-0) 81. St. Louis (MO) Christian Brothers (1-1) 82. Louisville (KY) Ballard (3-0) 83. Houston (TX) Westfield (2-0) 84. Martinsburg (WV) (2-0) 85. Rock Hill (SC) Northwestern (3-0) 86. Leesburg (GA) Lee County (3-0) 87. Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (2-0) 88. Louisville (KY) St. Xavier (3-0) 89. Pittsburg (CA) (2-0) 90. La Puente (CA) Bishop Amat (2-1) 91. Cornelius (NC) Hough (1-1) 92. Katy (TX) Thompkins (2-0 93. Orlando (FL) Jones (1-1) 94. Nashville (TN) Montgomery Bell Academy (3-0) 95. Joliet (IL) Catholic (2-0) 96. Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (2-1) 97. Rock Hill (SC) South Pointe (3-0) 98. Portland (OR) Central Catholic (1-0) 99. Los Alamitos (CA) (1-2) 100. Louisville (KY) Trinity (2-1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFootball4 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Brownsburg is 3-0 and beat your current #67 team in the nation yet they remain unranked? Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 14 hours ago, HoosierFootball4 said: Brownsburg is 3-0 and beat your current #67 team in the nation yet they remain unranked? Interesting Real quick on my philosophy of ranking teams. When looking at individual matchups, I look at what would happen in a best of ten scenarios. As you are aware, some sports use a one-game playoff (NCAAA basketball) while most use a "series" of games to determine the best team. I use the series of games approach. Well, how could you do that when they only play one game? I look at the game itself and each team's aggregate schedule. In other words, how they played in all of their games not just this one. Let's look at the Brownsburg-Cathedral game. Brownsburg established a large early lead with Cathedral coming back to within a touchdown at the final gun. Could Cathedral have won if not spotting Brownsburg the early lead? What factors led to the early lead and the comeback in that game. Secondly, I look at common opponents. Unfortunately, in this case, there are none currently. Looking at their past performances this season, Brownsburg has a 5-point win over Ben Davis and a 35-point win over Franklin Central. Cathedral has a 21-point win over Lafayette Jefferson and a 14-point win on the road against an improving Penn team, another game where they trailed early but were able to secure the win on a comeback. I think in the end run, that Cathedral's wins were over better teams. Now with that being said, I don't think there is that large of a gap between the two teams. Brownsburg is currently ranked just outside the Top 100 where there are several debatable teams that can make a case for inclusion. Keep in mind that polls are dynamic, constantly changing in hopes of having a solid list by years end. BTW, I knew this question would come my way as it does anytime a team is ranked higher than a team that it lost to. Hope you enjoy the poll and feel free to question it at any time. That is the reason I compile it, for discussion and debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, whiteshoes said: Real quick on my philosophy of ranking teams. When looking at individual matchups, I look at what would happen in a best of ten scenarios. As you are aware, some sports use a one-game playoff (NCAAA basketball) while most use a "series" of games to determine the best team. I use the series of games approach. Well, how could you do that when they only play one game? I look at the game itself and each team's aggregate schedule. In other words, how they played in all of their games not just this one. Let's look at the Brownsburg-Cathedral game. Brownsburg established a large early lead with Cathedral coming back to within a touchdown at the final gun. Could Cathedral have won if not spotting Brownsburg the early lead? What factors led to the early lead and the comeback in that game. Secondly, I look at common opponents. Unfortunately, in this case, there are none currently. Looking at their past performances this season, Brownsburg has a 5-point win over Ben Davis and a 35-point win over Franklin Central. Cathedral has a 21-point win over Lafayette Jefferson and a 14-point win on the road against an improving Penn team, another game where they trailed early but were able to secure the win on a comeback. I think in the end run, that Cathedral's wins were over better teams. Now with that being said, I don't think there is that large of a gap between the two teams. Brownsburg is currently ranked just outside the Top 100 where there are several debatable teams that can make a case for inclusion. Keep in mind that polls are dynamic, constantly changing in hopes of having a solid list by years end. BTW, I knew this question would come my way as it does anytime a team is ranked higher than a team that it lost to. Hope you enjoy the poll and feel free to question it at any time. That is the reason I compile it, for discussion and debate. How much does your preseason rankings factor when you move teams/up down? I know you had Cathedral pretty high in your initial rankings, somewhere ~30's. Where was Brownsburg initially ranked? While it makes sense on the surface to rank a team who has beaten another team head to head higher, it doesn't always work that way, especially when your rankings take into all consideration 50 states and literally 1000's of teams. Cathedral dropping 40 spots after losing to Brownsburg makes sense but where was Brownsburg initially ranked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Footballking16 said: How much does your preseason rankings factor when you move teams/up down? I know you had Cathedral pretty high in your initial rankings, somewhere ~30's. Where was Brownsburg initially ranked? While it makes sense on the surface to rank a team who has beaten another team head to head higher, it doesn't always work that way, especially when your rankings take into all consideration 50 states and literally 1000's of teams. Cathedral dropping 40 spots after losing to Brownsburg makes sense but where was Brownsburg initially ranked? I had them third in Indiana behind Center Grove and Cathedral. As I stated, there are so many teams bunched up after the top 100 that it is hard to distinguish between them all. For instance, last week I was really torn about not ranking Wilmette (IL) Loyola and Louisville (KY) Trinity. They were two outstanding teams that were in the "bunch" just below the ranked teams. This week several teams dropped out which allowed both of them to enter the poll. Brownsburg, if they continue to play well, will most likely appear as teams drop out due to bad play or losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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