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    Hoosier Conference

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    45 minutes ago, XStar said:

    Following Western Boone the last 3 years, who went South all three years, it seemed like they were rarely challenged in the South.  Only one of their 15 games prior to the state finals in those 3 years ended up as a single-score victory.  That was in 2018 against TIpton.....who was promptly moved to the North for the next two years.  

    Just feels like the better programs in 2A have been, and are still in the North to me.  Eastbrook.  Pioneer (at least the past 2 seasons).  Luers.  Andrean.  Tipton.  RC.  Bremen.  Eastside.  But it's a new year and the past does not necessarily repeat itself so we'll see what happens.  We're only 2 weeks into solving this year's puzzle.  

    A team can.. n dose.. pop up outta nowhere....but the south dose appear to b cycling back up ... at least in regards to MD... in the north ... all i c is Luers... an everyone else..... but its early... 

    Hoosier Conference

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    4 hours ago, foxbat said:

    Was looking at the 3A poll and notice that Guerin is Top 10 and Tri-West is Top 5.  LCC beat Guerin after spotting them a couple of TDs and Tri-West emerged after LCC missed a series of conversion opportunities.  With Tipton and RCHS sitting in the Top 10 for 2A and LCC just breaking in this week, are we getting a potential deja vu of the last time that LCC visited 2A ... the first year Tipton visited LOS and the year after RCHS brought back a blue ring.  If I'm not mistaken, LCC got stuck in the South Bracket this year, so could we maybe see an all-HC LOS appearance in November ... at least in theory?  In the next four weeks, LCC will face off against WL, Tipton, and RCHS three weeks in a row ... at least two of those are at home.

    The Lcc D ... r the... Not Ready for Prime Time Players.... c if they can change that over the next 4 wks...

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    Hoosier Conference

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    On 2/24/2021 at 4:22 PM, Coach Nowlin said:

    Cass:  Wing T

    Tipton:  Multiple with a nice Spread and under center combo from what I have seen, usually very good skill kids

    HH:  Seem to be on the uptick now. lots of numbers, Spread team 

    NW:  Hodge Podge last few years, mix of Double wing, wing t to spread, numbers were less than 50 last year I believe , Great facilities 

    Western:  Been big and physical last few years, Gun Single Wing with some Zone concepts, and spread concepts sprinkled in.  Well coached, competitive program 

    West Side
    Its been WL playground since 2015

    RCHS:  We run Double Tight Single Wing, return a significant amount of players and very nice Freshman class coming in 

    BC:  Workign on getting numbers and excitment up.  Spread Team, those kids played hard for Coach Marsh last year, numbers and signafigant injuries have done them in last few years

    LCC:  Very good as expected each year, Coach Nay runs a spread No huddle, check with me system, VERY GOOD QB, going on 4th year starting into 2021, as a SR.  6'5 last time I saw 

    TL:  Flipped from Wing T under Coach Mannering to Spread with Coach Saylers, we missed them this past year due to covid and I think only saw them once on film, but they seemed to have had a nice year statistically speaking last year

     

    Cheers

     

    "Its been WL playground since 2015"

    I agree that WL is taking full advantage of its advantages... they r currently the team to beat in the HC yr in yr out... However... 2016 lost to Lcc... 2017 HC crown... 2018 Magnificent State Title team.... 2019 lost to Cass in HC Title game.... 2020...  HC crown...ur own Bombers took em into 2ot before bowing out.... granted... thats still 3 out of the last 4 HC crowns to WL... 

    The HC has been WLs playground since 2015?  I spose u could make that case... Or mayb jus a nice run?  If its a run.... who might b the HC team to knock em out this yr?  Lcc?  mayb ... but doubt it....  anyone else?   Hmmmmmmm

    Hoosier High School Football - Class 2A Pre Season Dandy Dozen

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    On 7/22/2021 at 12:01 PM, foxbat said:

    I'm not sure I'd rank LCC that high.  Back in their first foray into 2A, I think that would have been a good pre-season slot, but this time around, while they are a good team, I'm not sure I'd place them pre-season #4.  I'd probably put them down around #9.  Two quick tests with Tri-West and Guerin will answer several questions pretty quickly in the season.

    Ranking is pretty much meaningless for Lcc with a sched of Tri West.. Guerin Cath... wl.... Tipton... RC... id give this team more than 2 games 2 c how they adjust/respond.  They did manage to turn a 50-0 beatdown by wl into a State Title....Looks like they r goin south this yr...  a 2A title now...would b compareable to their 1st one ......hmmmmm

    1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    9 hours ago, foxbat said:

    The items that I put in the post were from the IHSAA.org website ... in the tournament pairings area which talks about the pairings show, the pairings, and the rules for hosting.  There's nothing that signifies any special treatment in altering home/away based on forfeits, COVID, etc.

    Even if the bye thing applied down the line, it wouldn't have impacted LCC because, even with a bye, LCC played away at Winamac the week AFTER their bye.  In other words, whether LCC was at home or on the road for the game that was forfeited, LCC would have played at Winamac.

    As I stated in my original post covering this, "The only way that South Adams would serve as host is if you altered LCC's away game with TPCS and not only gave the a win, but also changed the bracket and made them home.  In that case, South Adams would be home for semi-state because they are Sectional 43, the higher section number, and LCC is sectional 42."  This may well be where the IHSAA is going with this if it's going to be scheduled at South Adams now, but it also seems odd that there's no mention or addendum on the IHSAA site, at least as of a couple of days ago, as to how they were handling forfeits which would lead you to believe it was as usual.  With that said, I don't know what the IHSAA sends to its member schools, so the only thing the common guys have to go on is what's on their site.

     

    According to the local Ft Wayne tv news... thats exactly what the Ihsaa did....  altered the sec title away game that wasn't played w TPC ....to a hm game win for Lcc

    1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    3 hours ago, foxbat said:

    If you go literally by the rules or even by logistics scheduling, what you run into is the semi-state asterisks:

    *Regional non-host, if applicable, or higher sectional # (i.e., Sect. 2 is higher than Sect. 1).

    *If regional winner has not hosted either sectional final or regional, that school will be the designated host.

    Both LCC and South Adams did not host for the regional.  South Adams hosted for sectional championships. 

    Of course, there could be the "invisible" asterisks which says that says "if your opponent forfeits later on down the road, you pick up a hosting position."

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    There ur invisible asterisk!  

    1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    54 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

    Of course.... as it stands now... if the ihsaa in its infinite wisdom puts the Panthers and Knights bac in the same Sec.... it guarantees that one of them will b competing for a 1A title in 3yrs...... somehow don't think that will happen.... but then again... ther is the WL BC GC BJ ect. model they could follow...... 

    Whoops gotta take that bac.... barring a rule change... an unlikely as it may be.... Pioneer and Lcc could take turns winning a Reg the next 2 yrs.... causing both to stay 2A... 

    1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    1 minute ago, foxbat said:

    Lutheran avoids getting Scecina'd by virtue of their loss to Covenant Christian last week.  West Washington could also join LCC if they win out in the south and then win at LOS.

    Pioneer will also stay up in 2A for another couple of years setting up a potential match-up of 1A sectional/regional foes in 2A post season.

    Gotta luv those Lcc Pioneer Sec games........

    1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    4 minutes ago, foxbat said:

    The items that I put in the post were from the IHSAA.org website ... in the tournament pairings area which talks about the pairings show, the pairings, and the rules for hosting.  There's nothing that signifies any special treatment in altering home/away based on forfeits, COVID, etc.

    Even if the bye thing applied down the line, it wouldn't have impacted LCC because, even with a bye, LCC played away at Winamac the week AFTER their bye.  In other words, whether LCC was at home or on the road for the game that was forfeited, LCC would have played at Winamac.

    As I stated in my original post covering this, "The only way that South Adams would serve as host is if you altered LCC's away game with TPCS and not only gave the a win, but also changed the bracket and made them home.  In that case, South Adams would be home for semi-state because they are Sectional 43, the higher section number, and LCC is sectional 42."  This may well be where the IHSAA is going with this if it's going to be scheduled at South Adams now, but it also seems odd that there's no mention or addendum on the IHSAA site, at least as of a couple of days ago, as to how they were handling forfeits which would lead you to believe it was as usual.  With that said, I don't know what the IHSAA sends to its member schools, so the only thing the common guys have to go on is what's on their site.

     

    Wouldn't SA also been at home if not for the Wimamac upset of NJ... as Lcc would have then been sched at hm for Reg..... only the ishaa can say for sure.... but I think it all jus progresses as it normally would... whic I what I thout the Ihsaa said at the beginning.... who knows?

    1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    18 hours ago, foxbat said:

    That's incorrect. 

    Sectionals hosting per IHSAA -

    First Round: The second-named team in the blind draw is host school unless the two teams agree to switch the site.
    Semifinals: The team without a home game will host. Exception: The bye team will always be the visitor. If both teams were hosts or both were visitors, the second-named team in the quarter bracket will host. In 6A & 5A, in the four team sectionals, the second-named team will host.
    Championships: Host team will be the team that has played the most away games. If both teams have played the same number of away games, the bottom bracket team shall host.

    • First round - LCC got home for first game because of ping pong balls.
    • Semifinals - LCC plays on the road because Clinton Central played away the first game, so they get to be home because LCC was home the week before.
    • Championships - Trader's Point would have been home team vs. Clinton Prairie in semifinals because both teams were on the road in first round and Trader's Point was the second named team ... the lower bracket team.  Clinton Prairie forfeited due to COVID, giving TPCS a home win in semifinals and since LCC and TPCS both had the same number of away games, TPCS was given home field advantage for the championship game.  As such, LCC would have been the visiting team.  LCC defeats TPCS when TPCS forfeits due to COVID.

    Regionals hosting per IHSAA -

    Classes A, 3A & 5A
    Sectional final game non-host, if applicable, or lower sectional # (i.e., Sect. 1 is lower than Sect. 2).

    • LCC was non-host in the sectional final game.  Whether they played or not, they would have still been the non-host and winner to have reached regionals. 
    • Winamac was also the non-host for the Sectional Championship game.  LCC has the disadvantage here because Section 41, Winamac's section, is lower than LCC's section, 42, ... Winamac gets the host position due to the fact that they have the lower section.

    Classes A, 3A & 5A
    *Regional non-host, if applicable, or higher sectional # (i.e., Sect. 2 is higher than Sect. 1).

    *If regional winner has not hosted either sectional final or regional, that school will be the designated host.

    • LCC was regional non-host.
    • South Adams was also non-host.
    • However, South Adams hosted a sectional final whereas LCC was scheduled to be away for the sectional.  By the last decider, "If regional winner has not hosted either sectional final or regional, that school will be the designated host," LCC serves as host.  

    The only way that South Adams would serve as host is if you altered LCC's away game with TPCS and not only gave the a win, but also changed the bracket and made them home.  In that case, South Adams would be home for semi-state because they are Sectional 43, the higher section number, and LCC is sectional 42.

     

    Depends on how the covid tournament game cancelations have been defined by the Ihsaa... Did they say they were considered games not played? ..... or forfeits? Or what?.... A bye game only applied to the initial sec bracket annual ping pong drop..... or not?   Hmmmmmm

    1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    1 hour ago, LCCAlum said:

    So you're comparing a 1A football team to a an NFL team. You're clueless.

    Having seen what happens with high school teams and bye weeks constantly this season. It is a hinderance for high school players, they don't have a paycheck coming in based on their weekly performance so it is difficult to keep 14-18 years wholly focused on the season. Especially when you aren't allowed to practice for two weeks. LCC will make a lot of mid season mistakes like they have every Friday this season because they have about half the amount of reps during practice this season than SA. That can come into play in a big way. Having scouted SA last season when they lose to AC. They are the real deal and going into this season I've though they were the favorite since they returned just about everyone. Their QB, top WR, and TE are all fantastic athletes who you can tell have put in a lot of work to master their craft. LCC is not the same team they were last year. There is so much inexperience out there and the lack of practice time has hurt that youth's development throughout the season. 

    Harrels predicts SA 52 LCC 10. I don't know that it'll be that bad, but LCC has a lot of work to do this week to make a game of it. 

     

    South Adams (12-0) at Lafayette Central Catholic (5-3)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, LaRocca Field.
    COACHES: Grant Moser, 47-21 in 6th year at South Adams. Brian Nay, 22-13 in 3rd year at Central Catholic.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: South Adams, 74.83, 42nd overall, 1st in 1A. Central Catholic, 41.84, 180th overall, 15th in 1A.
    LAST OUTING: South Adams defeated Southwood, 48-35. Central Catholic defeated Winamac, 37-32.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: South Adams 57-60. Central Catholic 44-37.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: No meetings.
    jh PREDICTION: South Adams, 52-10.

    I hav never seen the Knights a 42pt dog in a semi state game... or any post season game...  SA is likly too much for even the sacred soil of LaRocca field 2 overcome.... but it cant hurt......

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