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24 minutes ago, Bobref said:

42-7 over the past 4 seasons. That’s a pretty tough jury.

Not to mention NCC Conference Champs in year 1 in the League. Jury needs to wrap it up in there by the sounds of it. 😂

6 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

I believe Tommy played baseball at Northwestern. He was a GREAT High School QB. 

Yes he was. Such a shame I've only seen him "virtually" or via stream/ archived film. Would've loved to be old enough and "wise enough" to have watched him through my current lens when he was at 5959 Broadway. 

In Person Viewing from me...

Decade: Noah Ehrlich 

All Time: Matt Desomer 

Virtual Viewing from me (live or archived)...

Decade: Brady Allen 

All Time: Tommy Finn  

10 hours ago, roaringthunderdlr said:

In my opinion Braden Fiske is going to be a beast. Size, athleticism, experience. You name is he has it. He won’t be Aaron Donald he but has a chance to be a more than solid replacement.

Totally agree. 

21 minutes ago, JQWL said:

How do they study this?

Best question yet. 

2 hours ago, tango said:

Coaches can leave for better opportunities, so why not kids? I like that it takes the IHSAA out of the process for determining whether a transfer was for athletic reasons or not. Why does it really matter? Coaches leave for better positions all the time. 

This is a big part of my reasoning for having no issue with this should it come to fruition. Kids (and parents) should be able to make the best decision for their athletic and/ or academic futures (like coaches are allowed to do) without being handcuffed by a governing body or institution. I actually believe the 1 time transfer rule might help eliminate some of the transfer portal behavior I see going on out here presently (kids going to more than 2 high schools in 4 years).

1 hour ago, BDGiant93 said:

6A South...

 

 

As chaotic as ever. Can't wait to see the matchups for Sectional 5. What a snooze fest, AmIright? 🙄😂 

If you ever wanted or NEEDED reasoning to seed the BIG class, look no further than Sectional 5. There's probably a few sectionals beyond Sectional 5 that make seeding make sense for ALL classes but not sure we'll ever get there, unfortunately... 

16 hours ago, temptation said:

Yes, feel bad for Harrison.  They are an up and coming program that will be pretty damn good it seems but I give them little chance in that gauntlet of a sectional.

Really tough draw for them. I saw your and @BTF's exchange on the topic. Going to be a tough challenge for them to get ANY of those teams even on a down year. As BTF stated, not necessarily a slight to Harrison as much as it is a credit to the Indy suburb schools and how good they've gotten over the years. Nothing would be better for Indiana football, in my opinion, than if Harrison proves us wrong and can do what we're assuming (based on previous data) they will struggle to do. 

Don't think a lot of folks foresaw Penn jumping into Sectional 1. Tough draw for Lafayette Harrison, gotta imagine they'd rather be grouped with the DAC (like Jeff was) than Westfield, Zionsville, and Carmel. Tough draw for LC and Portage as well.

Don't think a lot of folks foresaw Penn jumping into Sectional 1. Tough draw for Lafayette Harrison, gotta imagine they'd rather be grouped with the DAC (like Jeff was) than Westfield, Zionsville, and Carmel. Tough draw for LC and Portage as well. 

LOVE this thread! Hope more names are added over the next few weeks as UDFA's. 

16 hours ago, scarab527 said:

Currently on the Region Sports board he's on one thread posing as three different people having conversations with himself. 

He for sure has 3 accounts on there (based on all of the evidence/ posts). I think two of the accounts are in the current "hot topic" on that forum and even invited the 3rd (main account) to the party. After reading here and reading there, I think he's having a grand ole time "stirring up the boards." Lol

13 hours ago, temptation said:

Man, this is some great stuff right here.

Mental illness on full display.

This can't be happening. 😂 Lol I defend the Govs almost everywhere I go. No way I can defend naming them a top 10 team in 5A. Gotta earn that first and while the Govs have the ability, and schedule, to EARN making it into the top 10, they're gonna HAVE TO prove it (like we all do). 

17 hours ago, Footballmomma said:

If I’m not mistaken. And please correct me if I’m false but I’m 99% sure that this is the last year for Valpo and Penn. my son that has friends at Valpo said they are playing Hamilton southeastern or homestead after this upcoming season ? And that Penn was supposed to be putting Merrillville back on schedule for week 2? I could be wrong. I’ll have to ask. Just heard from others that Valpo was playing someone new week 1 after next season and Penn was gonna take merrillville back on the schedule? 
 

Hobart dropped merrillville after this upcoming season. 

Cannot confirm, however I am in the same 99% group as yourself. I believe all of the above is true. But like you, I'm also SLIGHTLY unsure. If anyone knows better, happy to hear!

2 hours ago, BTF said:

Dumb? Agree. But it did garner three pages of conversation. So I guess it served it's purpose.

It would've died at 2 if not for me. This is on me. lol 

On 4/5/2024 at 9:08 AM, Titan32 said:

Been here a long time....this thread is top 10 for one of the dumbest conversations ever.

Haven't been here long. But there's no way it isn't top 3, and not 3. Lol unless I've missed some doozies over the years? 

Pete Koulianos was hired/ approved as the New Head Football Coach of Lake Central HS at last night's school board meeting. 

On 3/28/2024 at 2:44 PM, Bobref said:

Totally inaccurate.

Since 2018, I haven't heard a negative word about the Hanover Central coaching staff. I've met a few folks who aren't "best buds" with BoBref's nephew by any means (sorry if I'm aiding in rule breaking here, just using what was given to me lol). But I haven't heard, or seen myself, a thing done that would suggest the Hanover coaching staff engages in behavior that would cause Southern Lake County animosity to be a thing.

However, I won't tell you (@scarab527) what you've heard, seen, experienced, or otherwise. Just expressing that in the last 6 seasons, I haven't heard anything negative about the Hanover Central coaching staffs behavior on Friday Nights. 

4 minutes ago, BTF said:

If the Brownsburg/Ben Davis game didn't open eyes, than nothing will. What would Texas, California, Georgia, or Ohio say if they were told, "by the way, the two best teams in the state are going to meet in the first round." They'd declare lunacy.

The Brownsburg and Ben Davis game of 2023 (if there already wasn't a better example) SHOULD have been the eye opener. Unless you're living under a rock (which apparently some of the powers that be are doing). 

5 minutes ago, BTF said:

Kudos to Bob Gaddis for his politically correct response. 

Bob's a great guy and I'm glad I (along with all of you) have the reading ability to know what Bob really means/ wants to say here. Lol 

Unfortunate news. Would've really liked to see this come to fruition. Nothing quite like staying stuck in the mud, I suppose? 

The Penn faithful sound about as grim as myself discussing the disaster that is the Chicago Bears organization. Lol seriously though, I hope coach Riordan and staff can put the Penn faithful's minds at ease and have a successful career as Penn's next head coach. Best of luck to coach and the Kingsmen! 

1 hour ago, Goose Liver said:

It's like the mythical State Champions of the 30's and 40's... 

30's and 40's?!?! My Morton Governors were mythical state champions in the year 1965 here in Indiana. 😂 Inaugural IHSAA state tourney/ playoff was in 1973. 

18 hours ago, RegionFBFan said:

A lot here to respond to:

1. Enrollment is still extremely large. Your telling me that you can’t find quality players with close to 3,000 students??

2. If your definition of a good program is winning State titles, I get it to a point but this would imply all other 6A teams in football aren’t good programs besides those in the MIC as they have won every 6A title.

3. I was not aware of the Pop Warner situation. A shame as this was a very good program.

4. Middle school set up still leaves two very large feeder schools. Should be adequate.

5. Andrean, Mt Carmel and Marian Catholic have always poached and will continue to poach.

6. Agree Hanover benefitting the most with the growth in south St. John.

I think there is more to support or lack there of from the Administration. I’ve heard from too many people that there is no desire to be great in football from Administration. Limit budget for football to support an excellent staff is one example that I’ve heard consistently from these same people.

1. There are quality players walking the halls of LC and there are quality players on the current roster. Also, the tri-town community LOVES them some baseball. Do with that what you will. 

2. My definition of a good program isn't winning state titles but you do need to be competitive on a state scale, and do so as consistently as possible (Indy schools figure this out but we can't? LOL). There aren't too many programs at LC (or anywhere in the 219) that fit that description which is why being good is considered to be difficult and more often than not, the REALLY GOOD teams aren't from the 219. Sure, the baseball and softball programs at LC are consistent winners compared to other region programs but good is not always good enough. Especially not when the schools you need to "catch" to be competitive on a state scale are doing elite things, athletically speaking and continue to try and improve upon those practices. 

3. Absolute shame. When I was young they were the top pop warner program in the area by a mile. 

4. You would think, but one could rightfully assume that number 5 plays a role in how adequate the athletes are that leave either of those "feeders" and actually attend LC. Guys like Drayk Bowen (and probably some of his friends by default) for example who have left the LC middle schools for other High Schools would positively impact the LC football talent pool but those kids never walk through LCHS's doors. 

5. Yes.

Also, in reference to your sentence(s) after number 6, I've heard the same. 

18 minutes ago, RegionFBFan said:

I can’t figure out LC football program. Large enrollment, growing community, great facilities, good in all other boys and girls sports, well established youth football program and three large feeder middle schools. It would seem everything is in place to be really successful.

they have had some competent coaches come through over the years.

What is stopping them from winning at high level?

Most of your first sentence is false which makes the answer to your question very simple. 

For starters, LC does have large enrollment but it is not necessarily a "growing community" if we're going by enrollment numbers. At this point in 2019, LC's enrollment according to IDOE (for 2019-2021 reclassification) was 3316, fast forward 5 years and according to the new numbers LC is now at 2961, a 355 student decline, and I'm not so sure it will turn the other direction anytime soon because I believe, as Boiler mentioned, most of the southern developments are Hanover's district. Next on the list is "good in all other boys and girls sports," while this is true by Da Region standards, on a State scale the Indians have not won a state championship in any sport since 2012 and the only semi-state wins have come in girls basketball this season, softball in 2015, 2018, and 2021, and boys basketball in 2014 (correct me if I missed any).

Next, the well established youth program hasn't been so well established for quite some time. This is not your father's (or son's) Tri-Town Raiders (now the LC Buccaneers) and they have become less established over the years, sad but true. I'm 99.9% sure of the top Pop Warner programs around here the Tri-Town/ LC one doesn't crack the current top 5. The middle school situation is more complicated with Clark/Grimmer playing together and Kahler on their own. I'm not too sure on the whole dynamic there but it obviously isn't developing any athletes like our southern counter parts (CYO or Public). So while it appears things are in place to be successful, there's a lot of work that needs to be done to right the ship for the Blue Indians and not all of them fall on the former, or future head coach(s). 

I think the above will make the answer to your question rather simple, and if it doesn't then maybe you know something I don't. 

23 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

Another question would be are they losing good talent to the following schools:

1. Andrean
2. Chicago Mt. Carmel

Yes. Have always and will always. 

7 minutes ago, BTF said:

Do athletic revenues justify these salaries or is it more of a tax burden? And I don't mean "burden" in a bad way. I don't think you can put a price tag on the development of young people. 

That's a great question. I'm in agreement with you as far as "I don't think you can put a price tag on the development of young people," is concerned. Which is why whether coach Gilbert (or others like him) is compensated via an ever flowing athletic revenue stream or a community-wide tax "burden" (we both agree on the definition of burden here), I don't believe it matters. I believe he is fairly compensated for the work he's done/ doing and that if more places around the state (and dare I say country) followed suit, they would in turn see similar success and therefore enhance the culture of their schools and communities.