CoachMack219

You mean... The DOGE Checks Are Coming Bowl The Statutory Bowl Left-Leaning Americans Own Guns Too Bowl (Any American who can't get behind the Smith & Wesson Bowl should be fired from the USA)

Seen was the form of "to see" used by crimson. No need for us Northerners to get riled up now! Lol hell, the best HS players I have seen with my own 2 eyes are... 1. Jaylon Smith, FORT WAYNE Luers 2. Tyler Eifert, FORT WAYNE Dwenger 3. Drayk Bowen, Andrean 4. Kenneth Grant, Merrillville 5. JoJo Johnson, Morton/ Merrillville That makes JoJo Johnson the best High School DB that I have seen with my own 2 eye balls. I do NOT think JoJo Johnson is better than Rod Woodson simply because sentence 1 is true, for me. He's just the best these eyes have seen. See Fort Wayne, the NORTH REMEMBERS 😂, no need to be upset! Lol I'm sure there's someone down South who has seen a more impressive 5 than my 5 (maybe not?) but this is the best these eyes have been able to see and the top 2 are Fort Wayne fellas.

I suppose it is similar. But I don't hate the waiver idea for schools that TRULY have no chance in their class.

We would need an entire waiver department in the IHSAA with all the football waivers filled out. Lmao but I like that they have some sort of "solution" for teams that have no business being multiplied up. I might be wrong here but with the data I could assemble/locate these were my findings... IHSAA Private Success Factor "Climbers" since 2013 = 19 IHSAA Public Success Factor "Climbers" since 2013 = 14 IF someone has better, more accurate data, please provide. This was not my best effort but an effort.

I honestly was not quite sure how those were counted in this "debate."

6A: Lawrence North 5A: Concord 4A: Yorktown 3A: Twin Lakes 2A: Brownstown Central 1A: Milan

I hear ya. I will say though, by my count, there are only 5 P/P's in the list of 32 teams I have above and they have a combined 0 Postseason Football trophies in their history. If I missed one let me know but I counted... Bowman Academy, Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian, Purdue Polytechnic (Broad Ripple)?, Greenwood Christian Academy, and Indianapolis Tindley? The only school I see that COULD fit your scenario would be Indy Lutheran if they were no longer success'd up.

No need to look up his number. Bobref gave me his email. If I want to be ignored by a higher up, I'll at least take an automated/ standard email reply over a secretary "taking a message." When I look in the mirror, I see too large of a belly but my reading skills are pretty good.

Reading is important @gonzoron

I highly doubt that I'm the first coach/ "member" to complain about the absolute FOOLISHNESS that is officiating knee pads and "drip" more effectively/ efficiently than we officiate the game itself. I'm sure me (a lowly REGION assistant) emailing Mr. Faulkens will get the necessary traction to put an end to this absolute RIDICULOUS issue. 🙄 If I get a reply at all, I'm sure it'll be revolved around some form of a good ole boy club message that says something about "the integrity of the game," "character," or some form of word vomit associated with that reasoning. I'll give it a shot though since you kindly provided me with his email. Maybe I'll fix the problem with a 200 word email, doubt it, but won't know if I don't try. So I SHOULD NOT send that email? Lol

Totally agree with the bolded sentences and nearly all parts of your post. I understand the WHY behind how we got here as someone explained above but I'm pretty sure Pioneer and South Putnam would be just fine with playing Whiting, North Putnam, and Northeastern (teams that would be near top of enrollment in my "new" 2A).

I recall something about not needing officials? Among other claims... Lol

Next time you talk to the higher ups, you tell 'em (for me) enough is enough and that coaches (and fans) care WAY more about officials correctly assessing holding, pass interference, facemasks, etc. than we do about our kids knee pads that offer virtually no protection to the patella or surrounding areas anyways or any silly a** arm bands our kids want to wear. Appreciate you and the officials no matter WHAT @Rodney says about you guys! 😂

1A is probably the right answer to this specific question. Although, after looking at the 5 largest schools in 5A (Valparaiso, Warsaw, Whiteland, Merrillville, and Lafayette Jeff) I don't mind 6A getting the extra school(s) either but I certainly don't think Goshen, South Bend Adams, Chesterton, or Castle should be "forced" up. For the purpose of this exercise if I did this for a 32 team 1A, the 5 smallest 2A schools would be Fremont (283), Pioneer (286), Tecumseh (286), Fountain Central (289), and Northfield (296). 32 Team Class 1A Based on Latest IHSAA Football Enrollment Data 1. Cloverdale - 283 (1 Sectional Title) 2. Covington - 281 (0 Postseason Titles) 3. Bowman Academy - 277 (0 Postseason Titles) 4. West Washington - 277 (6 Sectionals, 4 Regionals, 1 Semi-State, 0 State Titles) 5. Triton - 274 (3 Sectional Titles) 6. North Daviess - 273 (2 Sectional Titles) 7. Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian - 270 (0 Postseason Titles) 8. Clinton Central - 268 (4 Sectional Titles, 1 Regional Title) 9. Springs Valley - 266 (4 Sectionals, 2 Regionals, 1 Semi-State, 0 State Titles) 10. South Decatur - 265 (3 Sectionals, 2 Regionals, 1 Semi-State, 1 State Title) 1990 Champions 11. North White - 264 (3 Sectionals, 3 Regionals, 2 Semi-States, 1 State Title) 1994 Champions 12. Southwood - 263 (9 Sectionals, 5 Regionals, 2 Semi-States, 1 State Title) 2002 Champions 13. North Miami - 263 (6 Sectionals, 2 Regionals, 1 Semi-States, 1 State Title) 1993 Champions 14. Purdue Polytechnic (BR) - 262 (0 Postseason Titles) 15. North Central (Farms...) - 257 (2 Sectional Titles) 16. Tri - 256 (4 Sectional Titles, 1 Regional Title) 17. Southern Wells - 252 (3 Sectionals, 3 Regionals, 1 Semi-States, 1 State Title) 2001 Champions 18. Wes-Del - 248 (1 Sectional Title) 19. Culver Community - 246 (4 Sectional Titles) 20. Union City - 244 (0 Postseason Titles) 21. South Newton - 241 (3 Sectional Titles, 1 Regional Title) 22. Caston - 241 (0 Postseason Titles) 23. Cambridge City Lincoln - 234 (0 Postseason Titles) 24. Tri-Central - 232 (3 Sectionals, 1 Regional, 1 Semi-State, 1 State Title) 2013 Champions 25. Edinburgh - 227 (0 Postseason Titles) 26. Greenwood Christian Academy - 222 (0 Postseason Titles) 27. Tri-County - 220 (3 Sectional Titles, 1 Regional Title) 28. North Vermillion - 218 (7 Sectionals, 3 Regionals, 2 Semi-States, 1 State Title) 2014 Champions 29. West Central - 209 (3 Sectional Titles, 1 Regional Title) 30. Indianapolis Tindley - 202 (0 Postseason Titles) 31. Frontier - 180 (6 Sectional Titles, 2 Regional Titles) 32. Attica - 160 (1 Sectional, 1 Regional, 1 Semi-State, 0 State Titles) I think this class would crown quite a few "new State Champs" and see quite a few more "State Championship game participants" which would help the original goal I referenced in my original post about success factor in that thread. I also think "adding" a Pioneer to this class is more detrimental to these 32 schools than it would be to add 1 Valpo or Warsaw into 6A... Might be changing my answer after this little activity. Lol

I like these two the most. If we're going to have 2 classes with 32 (which I think should be 6A and 1A so add that to this list... LOL), then those two classes (6A and 5A currently) should have 32 schools in them at all times. That much I agree with. The largest school in 4A having to "bump up" isn't ideal and same for the largest school in 5A that could have to "bump" to 6A in an instance like described above. I think your idea is great but I think it works best with 6A and 1A having 32 teams. And yes, lets seed the dang thing already!

I bolded the parts that feel important to the conversation of success factor and whether or not it "works" or is working. I totally agree that no system is perfect and there will be outliers (like this curious case of Luers). Correct me if I'm wrong but a large part of the idea of the success factor (and the addition of 6A) was "more schools playing for and winning state championships?" If that was "the main goal" of the IHSAA they succeeded, sort of, based on the data I compiled. From 2013-2025 (Success Factor Era) there have been 47 different State Champions (42 of them from classes 1A-5A) crowned from classes 1A-6A and 81 different schools have competed in the State Football Finals. By comparison, from 2000-2012 (the 13 years directly prior to SF) there were 32 different State Champions crowned from classes 1A-5A and 65 different schools competed in the State Football Finals. While not perfect, the system is working if the MAIN GOAL is "more schools playing for and winning state championships."

That was a good game for sure. I've watched a very good amount of Merrillville games over the years and while I felt like they had a chance to win that game, as an objective observer, it felt like New Pal was going to eventually make enough plays to win. I didn't foresee a 21-0 4th quarter regardless of what decisions led to that "lopsided" final quarter. Merrillville competed about as well as I expected. I figured they would be in it until late, which they were, and they had a real chance if they make some of the plays they didn't.

Andrean and Cascade would still be a helluva game. Lol the ranking is appropriate but that's a game I would love to see.

Hell, I thought "run away" meant Roncalli would win like 28-10 and run away with it late. Lol never thought that Dwenger would score 26 more points than I assumed (especially after watching them vs St. Joe's). But honestly, credit to both offensive coaching staffs. Each of them scored 0 touchdowns in week 1 and then found a way to continue to score in week 15. That really was the game of the weekend, followed by the Andrean and Brownstown game which was awesome.

6A: "CoachMack was WAYYYY Wrong" 5A: "CORRECT!" 4A: "CoachMack was WAYYYY Wrong, AGAIN!" 3A: "CORRECT!" 2A: "CORRECT, but the Headline was NOT!" 1A: "CoachMack was WAYYYY Wrong, the Three Peat!!!" I went 3 for 6 and the North went 2 for 6. All 6 games were fun to watch! Congrats to all teams who competed and to our 6 State Champions!

6A: "Westfield Avenges Week 6 Loss, Win 2nd State Championship" 5A: "New Pal Pulls Away Late to Win 5th State Title, Ralph's 155th Game" 4A: "Roncalli Royals Run Away from Dwenger's Stout Defense" 3A: "THE CASCADE CADETS ARE STATE CHAMPIONS" 2A: "Andrean Too Much for Brownstown Central, Niners win 4th State Championship" 1A: "Pioneer Denies South Putnam First State Title since 1986" I'm going "North" (air quotes are thanks to Westfield lol) with 3 wins and South with 3 wins. As I mentioned in the Semi-State Over/Unders thread, I am probably wrong so side with me at your own risk... Lol

I should've changed the Cascade pick when I learned about the Gibson Southern QB and I would have picked Merrillville if it was any round but Semi-State, realistically. Lol could've been right there with ya. Heritage Hills was always gonna be my upset special, couldn't of been more wrong though. 🤣

6A: 2 for 2! 5A: 1 for 2 because MERRILLVILLE SHOWED ME IN A SEMI-STATE GAME! 4A: 1 for 2 because Roncalli is REALLY GOOD! 3A: 1 for 2 because Cascade is REALLY GOOD! 2A: 2 for 2! 1A: 2 for 2! 9 for 12 ain't bad. Not great but DEFINITELY better than my Over/ Under's score. Lol

Westfield happened. Lol