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  1. 3 hours ago, scarab527 said:

     

    The original conversation has been sidetracked by this discussion of Lowell playing Hanover, which I’ll still say could get done, Lowell doesn’t have to play Portage, and Hanover has out of conference game slots available, the GSSC is not a closed conference. Also, if I remember right, Lowell only ever plays Morton in the playoffs, which won’t happen now that Morton will be in 5A. I’m sure Lowell would rather play Morton in the regular season than Portage or Griffith. But back to the original conversation, we were talking about the entirety of the NCC and whether the Hammond schools or HC and Wheeler would be a better fit. The NCC is a mid-large school conference of 4/5A teams with P/P Andrean. Hanover and Wheeler are 3 and 2A, respectively. They would be doormats in probably every sport in the NCC. They would never contend in football. Whereas Morton would be a great addition to the conference in football, and they have good girls/boys basketball programs. What Hammond Central’s level of play in sports will be is yet to be seen, but I would find it hard to believe if they weren’t at worst as competitive as Hanover or Wheeler would be. From a size perspective, and very likely a competition perspective, adding the Hammond schools to the NCC makes much more sense than Hanover or Wheeler.

    No scarab....for the record....

    Lowell and Morton have met in the regular season every year since 2004...not counting this season...it is a regularly scheduled game. They meet twice in  many seasons. They cant play Morton any more than they already do. 

     

    ..and you may have a slightly out-of-date view of Hanover Central

    Hanover was 24-2 in basketball last year and they beat Morton by 33

    Hanover beat Munster by 33 in football and was 9-2/

    I believe that Hanover has 19 IHSAA sports....no gymnastics.

    Hanover has won state in softball and has been to the state finals in baseball/ they would not be doormats. Hanover is strong in tennis and they were section champs in boys basketball. Only Covid stopped them. 

     

     

    Conferences are not 100% about being competitive/ Its whether you field teams in all sports. 

    I think Hanover and Wheeler have more sports teams than Hammond and Morton do,. 

  2. 1 minute ago, scarab527 said:

    If Lowell’s priority was selling tickets, they’d have already scheduled HC. I guarantee the coaches at Andrean, Hobart, and Lowell would much ratter play the Hammond Schools then HC or Wheeler. 

    Programs have multiple priorities.

    Hanover is locked into the Greater South Shore Conference league schedule.

    Plus Lowell plays CP, Portage, Morton and Griffith. Lowell has played CP and Griffith since the dawn of time.  Lowell plays Morton every year.....its not either/or..

    To be in a conference you have to have a lot of IHSAA sports.

    I believe Hanover and Wheeler , as vito said,  has more competitive sports than Hammond does.

  3. 1 hour ago, DT said:

    Agree   Highland is basically South Hammond anymore.  Munster and Hammond have been good neighbors forever.  I would think the two southern schools (Lowell and KV) might be the ones blocking the expansion.  They can leave if they dont like.  The NCC can get back to 8 by adding HM. HC, ECC and GWS.  and dropping Lowell and KV.  We would save a lot of travel doing it this way.  

    There probably wont be an 8-team conference but maybe 2 divisions. That would be 7 league games.  I doubt anybody wantsthat.

    What about...

    NCC SOUTH

    4A Kankakee Valley

    4A Lowell

    3A Hanover Central

    4A Hobart

    2A/3A ? Andrean

     

    NCC NORTH

    5A Munster

    4A Highland

    5A Morton

    5A/4A Hammond

    4A East Chicago

  4. 1 hour ago, vito said:

    Two simple reasons:

    1. It is and always will be about the $$$. Hammond schools do not travel well. 
    2. Conference memberships are about more than football. Morton would certainly be competitive on the gridiron.  But, they would bring very little to cross country, volleyball, track, golf, tennis, etc. Same reasons for the breakup of the LAC 20+ years ago. 

    Exactly.

    Hanover Central would be 'standing room only' at Lowell for football.......Morton and Hammond would not be. 

  5. On 11/29/2020 at 2:04 PM, globemstr3 said:

    Tell ya what not much talk now but those Linton Girls are one heckuva team. Funny I see Frankton #4 in 2A. We could very well have a repeat game a few months away! Congrats to both schools. Come on Miner Fans lets hear about our girls! BTW Linton Boys won a double header against 2 very good teams Saturday. Lets not forget them either! GO Miners!

    Jan. 9, 2021  (1 p.m.) 2A No. 1 Linton vs. 3A No. 5 Crown Point

    Hey GMS, why is this game at New Castle and not at Linton.

    What is the event occuring at New Castle that day?

  6. Just now, Gipper said:

    exactly.  When Lowell lost to East Central a few years ago, I wasn’t all that bummed.  I knew ahead of time EC was real good and the game would be something else.

    That's funny. I was very confident Lowell would beat EC......but I would bet you remember this.

    What happened to Hobart today was what I thought would happen to Lowell in 2005.

    Roncalli had won state in 2002, 2003 and 2004 and they led Lowell 27-14 at the top of the fourth quarter...in the 2005 title game

    All week long I was hoping against hope.......Lowell didnt seem to match up....

     

    But Lowell won 28-27...15 years ago this week....I dont think I've ever seen a bigger upset

    1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

    Disagree. Westfield isn’t a bad team. They just aren’t the same level as Center Grove. Westfield is the best team in the state not named Center Grove or Cathedral and deserves to be here. Fighting till the end.

    CG seems so much faster than in the games I saw before...Some of these mis-directions and reverses Westfield is running should work...

  7. 1 minute ago, Gipper said:

    I agree.  Glad NWI was repped, though.   Sure the Brickies got pasted, just have to keep trying.  Teams from up here have won state, so the 317 stranglehold is a conspiracy at best.

    I'm glad you said that.

    To make the final game, to me, is 1000% better than losing at the semistate. You and your school and your town got the state finals experience...

    When you get over what happened in the game, you can rationalize that you lost to the champs.....and you gave it all you had../.. 

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  8. 2 minutes ago, BTF said:

    Agree. Offensively? No way. But they say defense wins championships. 

    I've always thought that in high school, offensive lines win championships..

    If you have the ball, it doesnt matter what their offense can do..

    CG just seems too big and strong for the other side

    15 minutes ago, TheStatGuy said:

    Center Grove vs Manchester college. Who wins?

    Center Grove vs. the New York Jets, who wins..??

  9. 2 minutes ago, temptation said:

    Please don’t try to diminish CG.  Your statement could be true but is a bit insulting.

    The Trojans won their games by an average of 35 points per game this season.  If 6A “weren’t down” maybe they only win by an average of 25?  Come on...

    Ive only watched CG on tape but they're playing with a ......uhh.. violence tonight that is different..

  10. 1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

    Cathedral/CG should be a whale of a game next year as well. Cathedral returns a ton on defense and 4/5 of their offensive line. Replacing McCahill won’t be easy but rumor is their back up (freshman this year) was offered by Ball State as an 8th grader. Cannot confirm and have my doubts but just what I’ve heard from a co-worker whose son played at the same CYO program.

    No way, FBK.

    I didnt know you could offer an 8th grader anything but JuJu Bees 

  11. On 11/17/2020 at 2:25 PM, WestfieldRocks said:

    That someone could be Westfield. This year, playing the same schedule as the varsity, and yes, that includes Cathedral, Westfield's JV and freshmen teams both went undefeated. Their eight grade team (not sure of their schedule) also went undefeated. 

    Great night for your guys, WR...........They are that good. 

     

    Like they used to say on the old Monday night wrestling shows.......

    I can smell what the Rocks are cooking!

  12. On 11/16/2020 at 1:21 PM, Staxawax said:

    If the Homestead beatdown didn't convince you, then you'll find out Friday. Then CG will beat down on Westfield.

    You were right on it, Stax.....

    Not close at all.........You said 21..........and the Pirates could not keep it even that close. I am surprised...

     

    ..and you're telling me Centre Grove is 21 better than Westfield? 

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