07_statechamp54

On 11/17/2021 at 6:28 PM, Yuccaguy said:

Very Happy to see Justin Kenny TOTALLY AGREE with every aspect of what I have consistently said about the SAC.  

Again, the solution to the ability of the "BIG GUYS" to compete on a larger stage will probably come down to Carroll and Homestead (the 'red-headed step-children' in the SAC's money grab for FB and BB)... 

(CHS and HHS) Leaving, and then cementing independent games with the more competitive teams of the SAC, in conjunction with picking up games in other areas of the State (or otherwise) against tougher competition, is the only way they and the  SAC's bigger schools get better also.    

By doing this, it would require the others "left behind" in the SAC to find outside competition (better).  Since it is apparent the the SAC has no intention of moving off their closed-conference stance.  

The SAC is only to the benefit of the lower classified schools!  Period, Point Blank! 

6A teams playing 2A through 4A schools for the entire regular season is fool-hearty.  Play other 6A and or competitive 5A schools week-in and week-out.  That will make you stronger in the long run.  The "lower classified" SAC schools should have no issue finding competition above their classification, if they seek to do so on the off weeks.  

I assume those that represent the teams (certain 2A and a certain 4A school playing up due to success factor) will be ... as usual the ones that are quite content with the SAC as it exists in FB.  

And the beat goes on......

There’s a few different problems with the SAC as it sits right now. I think everyone in this thread can and has acknowledged that fact. First thing I’d like to address is is that as a Luers guy, I would rather play a 9 game schedule where We’re playing the absolute best of the best every week. I can’t and won’t speak for players and coaches there now but 15-20 years ago, we wanted those games and hated that we couldn’t play teams like Chatard, Cathedral, Carmel and Warren. Does Luers benefit from playing in the SAC? Yes. But only 4 of the other 9 teams. The other 5 schools have 0 benefit from a competitive standpoint. Fort Wayne football used to have no problem competing with Indy. That was also almost 2 decades ago. I think a lot of it has to do with the amount of kids in each school (Bigger sample size) but I also think it has a lot to do with teams moving away from a more physical style of play. Physicality used to be a staple here. Now, not as much. Another thing I thought of, someone in another thread spoke of what Adams county football would look like if AC and South Adams were 1 school? What if the SAC were to do something similar? Combine schools to create a couple 6A schools with 2500-3000 kids a piece. I bet that’s a big enough of a sample size. Just my thoughts 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

9 minutes ago, Gridiron_Junkie said:

Eastside was awesome tonight.   They had the midas touch. Offense, Defense and special teams. Congrats Eastside!

 

Eastside played their absolute best game tonight. Their clock management and offensive line play was top notch. Defensively, that was about as perfect of a game as a team could hope to play against Luers and I don’t think I’m being facetious when I say that either lol. I mean really, that was about as perfect of a defensive game as it gets. 

2 minutes ago, southend said:

Teams not down, but the level of play is just not on par with you all. 

Agreed. We have the athletes in Fort Wayne, we just can’t  spew out 6’7 290 linemen at all our schools like schools down in Indy metro. Even the small schools have big linemen down there. That’s where Fort Wayne is behind IMO. 

8 minutes ago, BTF said:

Not really, you were just trying to motivate the Knights 😅

I saw things in the Snider game that concerned me. When we play a good offensive line and good power run attack, teams chew clock and keep our offense off the field. Was it motivation? Yes. Did I honestly think Eastside had a chance to win? Yes. They have what Luers has had trouble with and as we know, there’s always that chance. Well, the chance happend 🤷🏻‍♂️

28 minutes ago, BTF said:

Good for Eastside. No one gave them a chance. 

I did 🙋🏻‍♂️

Congratulations to the Panthers on a hard fought win!! Will be pulling for you the rest of the way! 

On 11/2/2021 at 7:52 PM, 07_statechamp54 said:

Eastside @ Bishop Luers: Eastside by 7

Looks like I didn’t take the Blazers by enough 👀 

15 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

The bowling alley isn't even in town.

Forgive me! It’s been some years since I’ve made my way down that way. I do know it was nearby, that’s all I can safely say lol.

2 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Have you ever been to Tipton???

Been there a time or two for a basketball regional. I remember having time between games and we ended up at a bowling alley. I think it was the only thing to do in Tipton. If I remember correctly though the food wasn’t bad. Any Tipton folks that would like to send any good eat spots my way that’d be greatly appreciated 👍🏼😆

Now back to the game. Some questions I have…will Tipton be able to neutralize Eastbrook at the point of attack? Can Eastbrook’s secondary contain the pass game of Tipton? Will turnovers and special teams become a huge deciding factor? I think if Tipton offensively can run the ball efficiently up the middle of the defense early, that’ll open up the pass game. Defensively, I’m not sure what Tipton runs but I’d run an adjusted 5-2 that way your covered up front but also covered on the off chance of a play option pass. 

12 minutes ago, 36_Belly said:

No crying here. Just proving your ignorance. You need a tissue? 

I think this penalty has taken on a life of its own here.

1 hour ago, Yuccaguy said:

Nailed the holder....  

Similar play changed momentum in the first Snider-Dwenger matchup. BD blocked the kick down 3 late and had momentum. The officials called roughing the holder and gave snider 1st and goal. It’s a good call, you just hate to see a game decided by a call of any kind.

I’ll say this, I’ll never count Chatard out. This is a game where you throw out the records and the analytics. I think the outcome will 1 thing. Whether or not Chatard can neutralize Roncalli up front. 

11 minutes ago, LuersLurker said:

Wow!  The wall outside my classroom would be filled already. Luers Alum will know what I mean.  

Yes it would!!! Gives new meaning to the term “bulletin board material”! 😆💪🏼

1 hour ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

I think the key to staying in games with Eastbrook is finding a way to stun them to start the game. Notice how I say "staying in the game with them". Just because you stun them early with big plays doesn't mean you win which says a lot about the Eastbrook mentality and program that has been built. I just remember in 2018 being at the Cass and Eastbrook game. No one was giving Cass a shot, and Cass came out with an early pick 6. From there it was a dog fight that ultimately ended in Eastbrook winning by 2. The point I'm trying to make is if Eastbrook jumps out to a two touchdown lead against anyone, forget about a comeback. If you jump out to the two touchdown lead against them, you've given yourself a chance to win the game. Tipton has to be ready to go from the jump this Friday in order to have a shot at winning this. I have to agree with what someone said earlier. I think this will be a really fun game to watch that will be a lot closer than anyone thinks it will be.

That’s the sign of a program with that’s in a good spot 👍🏼 I agree with you 100%. There is always that team that you have to really come out and get them down a couple scores in order to have a shot. 2A North seems to be filled with teams like that. 

53 minutes ago, BTF said:

This is what I respect about Luers football. They are the only 2A school in a conference dominated by 6A, 5A, and 4A schools. They have an expectation of winning the SAC, not just competing. 

Championship Mentality ✊🏼

32 minutes ago, BLKnights7 said:

I was on the 09-13 teams. This team shouldn't be satisfied no but still a heck of an accomplished sharing the title. And I agree winning state all 4 years was great but painting the bell from blue to black and red was something I'll never forget. 

09-12* sorry fat crooked fingers 

Those were some great teams! I had the honor of sharing the field with the seniors on the ‘09 and some from the ‘10 team. A lot of great players but even better people ✊🏼 I always felt bad for the ‘08 team though, losing up in Baugo Twp like that. Should’ve been the first school in state history to win 6 straight football state championships.

23 minutes ago, BLKnights7 said:

Exactly its not a thing of luck that they are a shared sac champion. They lost to a very good snider team and there's no Shame in that. 

No shame, yes. Satisfied with 8-1 and a shared Victory Bell?? Not a chance. My Luers team in 2007 went 5-4 in the SAC, we lost those 4 games to Harding (2006 2A Champs), North, Snider and Dwenger by a COMBINED 20 pts…knowing we were that close to the Victory Bell still haunts me and I have a blue ring! While I can’t speak to the mindset of these kids I would imagine they wanted that 15-0 mark.

The key now is to stay humble and realize that every week is championship week. If they do that and play 48 minutes of Luers Football, they’ll be just fine.

41 minutes ago, BTF said:

There's no such thing as a sliding team that gets through the SAC with only one loss. The Knights are as good now as they were in Week 1. If they lose from this point forward, it's because they didn't put their best foot forward. 

I’m not taking anything away from a good 8-1 SAC season. It’s a gauntlet no question, so kudos to the knights for only slipping once but the goal is to win them all. Especially when your the smallest program and town always playing with a chip on your shoulder. 
 

I agree that the knights can lose on any given Friday. I though, unlike some, am not ready to just anoint them State Champions because they “seem to be the most talented”. I always go back to Dwenger-Elmhurst in 2003 to open the season. What a game! E-hurst snapped a 74 game losing streak to the #1 ranked team in 4A. Luers needs to stay humble and hungry every week if they want to win the State Title.

It could just be me here in the minority on this but I really feel this game is gonna be much closer than a year ago. The thing that I think separates Eastbrook from everyone else left in 2A is their tempo. The time between end of one play and snap of the next is unreal fast 😰 

51 minutes ago, CLKeller16 said:

Warsaw at Carroll - The Chargers won in a more convincing fashion over the Spartans last Friday than they did in Week 7. The Tigers will have had three whole weeks to prepare for this game though, come this Friday. Will it be enough? Carroll by 13

Snider at Bishop Dwenger - Both the Panthers and the Saints were given more than they bargained for last Friday. Were they both looking ahead? Regardless, both teams are chomping at the bit to finally play one another in the playoffs. Panthers restart their sectional dominance. Snider by 9

Wayne at Mississinewa - The Generals proved me dead wrong in the score category, but dead right in the improving program category. The Indians might want to watch out, Haydock is getting hot at the right time. Mississinewa by 14

Eastside at Bishop Luers - The Sag favors the Knights by 7.5. Offensive and defensive averages favor the Blazers by 2.5. Strength of schedule is in the Knights favor. What does Luers Field look like on Friday? Watch this one for sure folks. Bishop Luers by 3

Very good points made for each game!  I’m of the same camp who believes Coach Haydock will turn Wayne around so Kudos. I think all of these games are worth going to/streaming. All are good matchups. I’ll be tuned into all of these games on Friday! Good luck to all teams!

Warsaw @ Carroll: Carroll by 17

Snider @ Bishop Dwenger: Snider by 13

Wayne @ Mississinewa: Ole Miss by 6

Eastside @ Bishop Luers: Eastside by 7

7 minutes ago, BTF said:

There's no shame in losing to a 5A power. 

No, not when your a 2A school. It’s supposed to happen? Or at least is the old adage 🤷🏻‍♂️

4 minutes ago, dazed and confused said:

Yes they did lose... to a 5A power that lost to a 6A power that Luers beat...c'mon man !

So would you call that a good loss? Is the loss to Luers for Carroll a good loss also then?? I obviously can’t speak for the coaching staff at Luers but I’m willing to bet they’re not satisfied with a “moral victory” of sorts. I know I wouldn’t be 💪🏼

5 minutes ago, BACKSIDEBELLY said:

I would say that with their success last year and with how they’ve handled their business this year in their conference, that makes them appear to be the best team in 2A.  Sometimes games don’t always turn out the way they are expected, so we’ll see what happens.  Trust me I hope I’m wrong and my Eastbrook Panthers can pull out wins the next four weeks.

I think there’s no denying that Luers is a good team and have had a good season. The fact is though, they have lost and didn’t look good at all in that loss. Eastbrook on the other hand is an unblemished 10-0, ranked #1 and is probably the best team offensively AND defensively left in the North. 

53 minutes ago, BACKSIDEBELLY said:

I think this guy is just being sarcastic on the other thread!  It’s obvious to everyone that Luers is the team to beat.

Obvious how exactly? 

1 hour ago, BTF said:

I think your right, by and large. Bigger schools, not named Luers, typically get most of the attention. Personally? I think it would be pretty scary if Luers had the enrollment of Cathedral. What if Pioneer had the enrollment of Penn. Imagine combining South Adams and Adams Central..........that would be a pretty good football team. 

I agree when it comes to combining South Adams and Adams Central. They really play some good football in that part of Adams County. Pioneer also I feel like could benefit largely from being a larger community and school. They play a good brand of Football there. I really don’t think Luers being the size of Cathedral would be all that scary. You’d just have what you have now, a lesser version of Snider and BD which still wouldn’t have the same amount of students as either school. Cathedral as of 3 years ago only had 1,185 students in 9-12. Now I’ve seen 1,074 as the number. That’s around the same size as Dwenger and much smaller than Snider. 

1 hour ago, XStar said:

How do you see their (Eastbrook's) inevitable matchup with Eastside?  Much like it was 2 years ago?

Well, Eastside is rolling right now and they are undefeated. I think this time it’s much closer but as we’ve heard, if it’s at Eastbrook then that’s a tough hill to climb. I still like Eastbrook by a score though. 

3 hours ago, BTF said:

1A or 6A doesn't make me any difference. Some of the best football in the state of Indiana is played at small schools in Adams County. 

Completely agree 100 percent! I was more or less trolling the fact that 1380 doesn’t cover much small school football at all (Even if the small school is in FW) 🤷🏻‍♂️😆 but I digress.