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If you watch the video the white hat had already recognized 70 and began to move to announce him before 68 gets to the white hat. 

I think something that has been lost in this is 70 had reported previously in the game as eligible as a 6th lineman. When watching the film the white hat is looking at 70 and even points to him as 68 is talking to him.  
 

A reasonable scenario here is that 68 said “report” the White Hat saw 70 a few yards away sprinting in and made the assumption 68 was just relaying for 70 again. 68 didn’t say “68 reports” or “I report”. Then the white hat announces publicly 70 is eligible. 
 

This mistake is on the white hat but also the Lions. The Lions attempted to confuse, and they did. They also did not call attention to the call of 70 being announced because they were hoping that’s exactly what the Cowboys would think.  
 

The crew got it wrong. But the Lions set it up that way.  

On 12/29/2023 at 1:35 PM, Titan32 said:

The p/p advantages go away at 4A enrollment numbers, for the most part, but definitely at 5A numbers.  That's when you finally get enough quality success-driven athletes in your hallways to overcome the ones who join a club of like-minded individuals in 1A-3A.

Or it could be you feel they way because there are no 5A and 6A private schools. 

Nana’s wins are more impressive than FSU, and their depth of schedule is tougher.  
 

There really isn’t a leg to stand on.  All 13-0’s are not equal. 

11 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

1. Michigan 

2. Washington 

3. Texas 

4. Alabama

 

This is my guess too. 

The BD catch obviously would’ve been fixed, but I’d be a little cautious about thinking replay will be as effective as you see on Saturdays and Sundays. 
 

Michigan uses replay for its finals, and used it roughly a dozen times over the weekend.  From my seat I thought they ended up getting half the calls wrong after replay because they had a poor assortment of angles to look at.  
 

Just my humble opinion. 

The consolidation of districts doesn’t require the consolidation of schools.  In many cases it wouldn’t make sense.  Or districts combined with three HS might turn into two HS etc. 

On 11/27/2023 at 10:11 AM, foxbat said:

Really, only up until recently, LCC's been a feast-or-famine kind of team when it comes to post season ... although folks have always thought of them as dominant since inception.  Looking at Harrell's, from 1976, in the run-up to the 4-peats which kind of kicked off the "modern history" of LCC mythos, LCC's post-season was:

• 1976 - State champ
• 1989 - Sectional champ
• 1999 - State champ
• 2005 - Sectional champ

I ran some back-of-the-napkin calculations and, prior to the 1983 season, LCC was sporting just under a 54% win-rate.  The win-rate since the first youth program kids hit their senior year has been a tad over 71%.  Probably of greater interest to the LCC faithful, is that LCC's post-season has been less feast-or-famine.  Since the end of the four-peats, 2009-2012, LCC's post season has been:

• 2014 - 2A Regional champ
• 2015 - 1A State champ
• 2016 - 1A Sectional champ
• 2019 - 1A State champ
• 2020 - 1A Regional champ
• 2021 - 2A Sectional champ
• 2022 - 2A Sectional champ
• 2023 - 2A Regional champ

LCC has certainly had an up and down history, but is currently on an exceptionally long run of good-great seasons.   
 

Interesting note future University of Minnesota head coach Tim Brewster was just 11-11 at LCC. 

Is watching live the only option or could I watch them on tape delay for the same price?  
Also $20 per day or for all 6 games?

Thanks for the help!

So no regular TV only through the App purchase?

Yes please I’m not seeing where it will be on TV. 

I don’t think coaches are worrying about how a score will impact their Sagarin number.  But with that said it was explained to me that beating a team by too much will actually hurt your Sagarin number because the team you beat will drop by a lot and thus weaken your SOS.  So the goal is to beat the spread by not by too much if you want to worry about your rating.  

For the record the IFCA’s plan was a 4-year cycle. The IHSAA shaved it down to 2….largely because they wanted to have their fingerprints on the change.  
 

To MUDA’s point in the beginning of the thread I suggested a relegation concept during the committee phase, it had virtually no support among the other coaches there.   My suggestion was if you didn’t win a sectional game in a four year span  you got bumped down.  Coaches were worried about that concept for two reasons 1) might lead to getting fired, one thing to lose another to be tagged as a team that is forced down.  2) afraid some schools might tank when they knew a better class was coming up. 

Roncalli isn’t referencing the confederacy….but Roncalli…the Rebel Pope. 

Im thinking Harrison and McC are going to have to go north this time around. 

Soccer might be growing in popularity, but I’m not sure American pro soccer really is.  Everyone I talk to that follows soccer always talks about European teams. 

Calpreps has IMG as 5 TD favorites. 

O’Shea had a three year stretch early on that was the best since the mid 90’s. NC has a history of state champ coaches who struggle when arriving.  

15 hours ago, superjay said:

I would like to see them make 1A 32 teams and 5A 64 teams.  Bye week could really help rosters of less than 40 players.  Be fun to shake things up a bit.

When we were in the process of creating the current format I suggested this.  It didn’t get much traction from the IHSAA.  They wanted the 32 5A 32 6A setup.   
 

But it’s been 10 years now. Maybe they’d be up for a change.  

GID rule of thumb #1   If DT makes a "proclamation" it will last less time than it takes a hungry man to eat his lunch....because he intends to do the opposite.  

35 minutes ago, DT said:

The number of "Mega schools" in the state has changed in the years since the inception of 6A.

There were only 5 schools over 3000 in enrollment 10 to 15 years ago.  Today there are 11 and several just on the cusp of eclipsing 3000.  The increase in 3000 plus enrollment schools has actually flattened the curve between the highest and lowest 6A enrollments.  The reduction to 24 will take the next step in creating better parity within the class.  It will never be perfect, but it is incumbent upon the IHSAA to keep pushing towards greater balance when the opportunity arises.

 

"Mega Schools - 3000 plus enrollment

1112 Carmel High School 1359 1338 1267 1322 5286 2221 Ben Davis High School 1263 1075 1100 1061 4499 3433 Warren Central High School 961 962 960 938 3821 4344 North Central (Indpls.) High School 973 939 872 943 3727 5 7 9 14 Fishers High School 950 887 862 810 3509 6555 Penn High School 840 856 782 860 3338 7866 Lake Central High School 827 850 795 844 3316 8677 Pike High School 909 825 792 769 3295 9988 Hamilton Southeastern HS 827 803 840 803 3273 10 10 10 12 Avon High School 838 770 724 763 3095 11 11 11 10 Noblesville High School 805 744 750 702 3001

 

Soon to be "Mega" schools :

12 12 12 11 Crown Point High School 735 704 697 719 2855 13 14 16 18 Brownsburg High School 726 676 693 715 2810 14 13 13 13 Franklin Central High School 759 719 700 626 2804

Yes I agree more schools over 3000 exist, but I think that helps my argument more than yours competition is getting tighter now, the "middle" of 6A is closer to the top now than before. 

11 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

This "district investment" is yet another reason why the IHSAA should drop it's primarily enrollment based classification system and go to one of pure promotion/relegation.    Then these factors like socioeconomics, "working hard",  and district investment in a football program would ultimately be in the mix of where a school is classified.  The current enrollment based classification system for the most part (ie. success factor) ignores these factors when it should not. 

 

 

Maybe, but we both know that's not going to happen, so.......

4 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

This is a slap in the face to the coaches at Tech and schools like it who work darn hard to put a good product on the field yet face an entirely different set of circumstances than Coach Moore does. Heck, the Ben Davis and Warren staffs face entirely different circumstances than Coach Moore. 

What Coach Moore has done has been remarkable and I don't know how he coaches track AND football. Those are two HUGE sports and he's doing both and succeeding in both. He's a great coach for sure, but the idea that because Tech doesn't have a lot of success that those coaches aren't working hard is ridiculous. They do work hard, and their students need them in their lives.

Agreed it's not just a "work harder" solution here.  That may be the case for some of these schools, and may not I'm not going down that path.  But it does require significant district investment to achieve that goal.  That is missing in many many school districts.   Take Brownsburg as an example.  10 years ago you'd never put them in the neighborhood of BD.  But the district has taken many steps from that list I gave earlier to improve the competitiveness of the district.  They may not have the complete investments that BD or Carmel has for their program, but it appears they are putting in great strides to match it sooner rather than later.  Brownsburg has done enough to compete with BD.  Even to the point of a two game winning streak against them.   This can be done at Lafayette Jeff, this can be done at Noblesville, this can be done at Homestead etc.    It's not easy and it's not over night but it can be done.  CG is the model, New Pal is the model, it can be replicated.     It's not about kids working harder alone, let's not simplify it to that.  The CG kids could bust their tails but if they didn't have the other pieces in place they'd have minor success.   

To the dropping 8-16 teams to 5A, we've been down this road before a decade ago.  Then the bottom of the top class was nearly 3 times smaller than the bigger schools, and over 4 times to the outliers.   6A was created to address the issue.  A 32 team 6A allowed for the bottom to be less than the 2x of the bigger schools.  That was a problem, it was addressed.  This "problem" is not in the same neighborhood of having a school of 1300 play at Warren Central, it's just not.  

9 minutes ago, Grover said:

Just math checking because I'm bored but there have been 8 6A championships so 16 teams.  Warren, Carmel, and BD account for 9 participants.  CG has been in 4.  Only Penn twice and Westfield have made the finals other than those four teams.

You're correct I didn't add in this year, as I looked at the historical page.  Their "dominance" is less than I mentioned. 

4 hours ago, temptation said:

As I stated before in a separate thread, Nick Saban could take the reins at Tech and it simply would not matter.

Its a numbers/socioeconomic status issue.

Look no farther than the turnover.

Agreed which is why the list I made included a plethora of factors needed.  You know what also won't give Tech a state title...moving them to 5A, which they still wouldn't do under a scenario that drops the bottom 8 or bottom 16.