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Wow that was really surprising.  A gamer trying to justify his behavior to himself.  Called that one from a mile away.  

51 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

We get it, your personal definition of "'athletic activity" and by extension "athlete" is purposefully narrow.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1638728-5-ways-to-win-a-debate-with-anyone-who-says-nascar-drivers-arent-athletes#slide1

 

Who is "we"?  Are you speaking for someone else in addition to yourself? 

It is funny that you offered a bleacherreport article to back up your viewpoint.  Because the standards for writing for that site are so high that every article is full of worthwhile opinions.  How about you save me the time and tell me what it says so I can tell you what I disagree with.  I don't believe in giving such trash sites a click of my attention.  

You've now demonstrated you've completely lost track of the debate.  NASCAR drivers absolutely can be athletes but now you're introducing another term to this debate.  Until now, I've only attempted to define an "athletic activity" because that seemed to be a pre-requisite for determining what a sport is.  Now you're trying to imply that if anyone is an athlete, the activity in which they happen to be engaging in must be considered an athletic activity.  The world's greatest athlete could be washing his car.  That happens to require a minimal amount of physical activity.  Yet nobody in their right mind would consider that an athletic activity even if the Olympic gold medalist in the Heptathlon were doing it.  That doesn't mean I'm saying that person is not an athlete.  Just that he's not engaged in an athletic competition when he's washing his car (or playing video games).

I kind of get what I'm up against here though.  Because so many people play video games, even as adults, and there is finally something substantial that can be gained by a few select people in doing so, everyone is going to try to justify their behavior by making video games out to be a worthwhile endeavor.  Nobody wants to admit that all those years spent in their parent's basement playing Call of Duty instead of going out on dates or taking showers were a waste of time.  So now that a handful of people have actually benefited by being good at video games, every "gamer" wants to cling to that success and extrapolate far past reality.  That's all this "debate" really is.  People trying to justify their behavior.  

33 - This is the sectional I'm most indecisive on.  Both teams have challenged themselves in the regular season.  I'm going to go with RC because they have Coach Nowlin.

34 - Lewis Cass hasn't been taken down yet and LaVille won't be the team to do it tonight.

35 - I'm going with Eastside to win their first ever football sectional championship.

36 - Part of me feels like Eastern has the us-vs-the-world thing going as they haven't lost a game all season and still get little respect.  I'm picking Eastbrook but if they show up to this game thinking they're already up 2 touchdowns, they will be surprised.  This is a much better Eastern team than they faced in prior matchups.

37 - South Vermillion seeking their first sectional championship for football in school history.  Western Boone trying to navigate their way back to Lucas Oil Stadium.  I think WeBo finds a way to get it done and advance to regional.

38 - Another good matchup.  I think Scecina advances largely because they played a schedule to better prepare them for a big game like this.

39 - Can't claim to know anything about Providence and I've had Triton Central coming out of this one since they revealed the new sectional alignments.  Sticking with TC.

40 - Mater Dei.  Too good and battle-tested to get beat this early.

12 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Race car drivers?

 

I don't consider driving a car an athletic activity.  Would driving a 400 mile race at speeds reaching 200+ mph be physically taxing?  Sure.  Giving birth is physically taxing too.  I don't consider it an athletic activity.  

Basketball, Football, Soccer, Tennis, Gymnastics, Weightlifting, Running, Swimming, Skating/Hockey.

15 minutes ago, Graphic Context said:

The definition of sport from dictionary.com:

an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

I am not arguing either way, just throwing it out there.

You should bold "athletic activity" as well.  I think that's where reasonable people might disagree what constitutes "athletic activity".  

37 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Tell me how many football players are able to maintain 300 Actions Per Minute in a video game.    There is a physical coordination, muscle memory,  and stamina component there that you refuse to acknowledge.

Is golf a sport in your opinion?  Why or why not?

I don't deny any of those things.  I also don't deny that the participants probably perform better when they take care of their physical health.  

As for golf, that's a good question.  I'd lean towards no.  It's a skill competition like darts or bowling or racing cars.  That's not to say that some pro golfers aren't otherwise in good shape and likely very athletic.  But what they do is far more a competition of skill rather than athleticism in my opinion.  

3 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/gordon-hayward-jazz-video-games

 

Not sure if this was meant to support your position of it being a sport or not.

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

If it gets a student a scholarship, so what?  Are you saying team-based video games can't team similar lessons like those purportedly taught in football, baseball, or basketball?

 

Almost any definition of "sport" I look up maintains some sort of athletic component to it.  That is what disqualifies video gaming for me.  If you want to call it a sport, that's on you.  

E-sports is a competition.  Whether it teaches teamwork or not, it lacks a significant component of athelticism or physical exertion to meet the definitions of a "sport" that I read.  You can probably teach teamwork in a cooking class too but that does not qualify it as a sport.  

Competitive video gaming isn't a sport.  It's a competition.  

34 minutes ago, Punttheball said:

I don't think so.  It is sectional finals week for 6a and 5a.  2a will take a backseat for a while.

I was surprised at how many games were broadcast last week.  I know I was able to watch at least parts of 4 different 2A games online last Friday and there were probably another 2A game or two that was available that I didn't tune into.  

On 11/4/2019 at 4:26 PM, Bobref said:

Penn stopped Portage on 4th and goal from about 6 inches at the end of the game.

That's the kind of grit it takes to win championships.  

On 11/5/2019 at 7:22 AM, Oldbleacherfan said:

Their qb is pretty good and a true drop back passer. From the looks of max preps and what I was told prior to when we played number 17 royal is there “go to” receiver. 

I don’t think you guys will have an issue. 

I don't know.  Aside from Sullivan, they look like they've been able to put up decent points on everyone they've played.  Royal looks like an excellent player to me.  13 catches for 218 yards and 3 TD's last week.  He's playing some inspired football.  I'm not an expert on South Vermillion football history, but this looks like it could possibly be the biggest football game in school history for a program looking to win it's first ever sectional in front of a home crowd against (one of) the #1 team(s) in its class.  

2 minutes ago, RoadRunner said:

You might be right, but why is this the only sport that this is the case?

I don't know but I'd be more inclined to let the other sports move to one team hosting than change football to neutral.  I just think homefield is way overblown as an advantage at the high school level.  It's not like we're playing in venues that allow for 4800 fans from one team and only 200 from the other.  Both teams get as many fans in as will come buy tickets to watch them.  There is a small advantage for travel and familiarity but I'd say it's very rare that this "advantage" determines much at the high school level.  

The people that are complaining about home advantage in regionals would find something else to complain about if that happened so it wouldn't reduce the complaining rate on here.  It would just be complaining about something even more petty.  

Alexandria only has an "explosive" offense against really bad teams.  

Would be cool to win a sectional in 3 different classes.

8 minutes ago, 1st_and_10 said:

He played some tonight

I watched most of the game on YouTube.  Looked like he played early and they got up big and then used other RBs the rest of the way.  I was watching a few other games as well so I wasn't focused on if or how much he played on defense.  Here's hoping he's getting back to 100%.

8 hours ago, panther10 said:

Would you say he is the best player in the CIC or just best QB?

Just the best QB.  

All I have to say is that I value winning, and winning when it matters, not running up your stats against Elwood, Frankton, and Madison Grant.  

Eastbrook went undefeated in conference.  Mississinewa was the only other competitive team in the conference.  I didn't see another QB that impressed me at all from the "other" teams but I must clarify that I only watch those teams play Eastbrook and Mississinewa because those are the only games that really matter. 

I have Campbell as best player and Bragg as top QB this season.  If others want to vote based on hollow stats, that's certainly their choice.

With some of the players Eastbrook lost on both sides of the ball, I really didn't think they had much chance to beat Mississinewa and win the CIC (two things they didn't do last year) but they did.  The way he runs that offense is a huge part of the reason why.  Best QB in the CIC for my money.  

Will Wethington be playing tomorrow?

8 hours ago, NPCougarNation said:

You're being modest and I appreciate that!  One thing we learned about WeBo last year is that you guys come out and dominate the beginning of the game....it's hard for a team to recover from being down 4-5 TD's at halftime!  I think your stat of 38 pts per game paints a picture of the WeBo varsity offense being explosive and the varsit D stuffing people....while the 12 points per game means the JV offense is learning and getting experience while the JV defense closes the game out....  I listened to what Coach Pelley said after last week's victory and he eluded to this.

While several pieces remain, I don't think this team is as good as last year.  They lost their top wide receivers and some depth on their lines that kept players from having to play both sides of the ball last season.  They are still good though and should be a tough out.  I wouldn't be stunned if they lost on Friday night.  NP has this game at home and I'm sure they have payback on their minds for last season.  Expecting a tough, hard-fought game just like most at this point in the season and going forward.

4 good teams left.  Would not be surprised if any of the 4 ended up as sectional champ.  

1 minute ago, nickelbackjack said:

No we didn't. Did that team play last night?  And it was a team Pioneer plays every year. You make it sound like they got bumped up and found out how good the teams are in 2 A.  It's the team they play every year. 

You don't play THAT Lewis Cass team each year.  Can't have it both ways by saying that THAT Pioneer team didn't lose but you play that Lewis Cass team every year.  

2 hours ago, nickelbackjack said:

Get over it.

The issue is over now.  Everyone can see for themselves.

Just now, Temptation said:

Did Pioneer fans really pump their chests and claim they’d “dominate” a higher class last year?  I honestly don’t remember.

I read multiple discussions about how far up they'd have to go to find a challenge and usually the discussion started with 3A and West Lafayette.