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Again, I never said they were a state champ team, reread my posts. You must have mistaken me for someone else as I never stated they would even beat certain teams or should have a certain record or anything of that sort. You miscomprehended the point of my initial post which I reiterated numerous times.

I hope this isn’t in reference to me as I am not some media guy. In fact, I do nothing in regards to the media. If I told you my name and you asked the 6A coaches what they knew about me, I would guarantee over 85% would be able to tell you all about me and my visits with them and some of their players. Don’t assume

I agree @temptation. And I appreciate the explanation from both you and @FastpacedO when you explained the numbers, I was just trying to see where they came from. While my initial post was about CP, that doesn’t mean I’m rooting for them to win it all or even think they will. My main goal was to express some frustration with the way 6A football teams are throughout Indiana. My job gives me the chance to see all the 6A teams across the state, so I’m familiar with the ins and outs of the Indy teams, and they are indeed amazing. In fact, there are also some outstanding non-6A teams around Indy, with young athletes doing incredible things. These teams have been a big part of the conversation for years, which was the main point I was trying to highlight. I didn’t mean for this discussion to get dragged out, or to make it seem like I’m favoring one team over another—because I’m honestly not. Do I think CP has improved? Absolutely. Do I think they’ll make it to state? I have no idea. I just wanted to share my thoughts on the broader conversation about these teams. Thanks for hearing me out! And wow, I did not realize what a conundrum this would stir! And yes, I think this would be good for a team that wants to make a name for themselves.

SOS matters as it is said. If CP or others go to an all Indy schedule, don’t you think that the team would continue to improve with the right resources? I want to clarify a few things regarding the discussion of scheduling and team performance. First, which “all Indy” team’s schedule are we talking about specifically? The schedules can vary quite a bit, and without clarity, it’s hard to draw meaningful conclusions. Also, when analyzing a team’s performance, bits and pieces of games you may have seen (whether it was the 1st team, 3rd team, or even the freshman team) don’t provide the complete picture. A fair assessment requires a full understanding of the context of those games. Lastly, we can agree to disagree on whether that team is “part of the conversation,” but simply throwing out a hypothetical number that doesn’t pertain to the discussion isn’t relevant to the original point I made.

I never said you did. This is exactly what I said. Again, please explain how this has anything to do with what the point of my initial post or follow up posts reiterating it was? And I never said you stated that CP wasn’t part of the equation in your response. I literally went back to my ithe point of my initial post and how you got the number you did.

I don’t have time to go through every time from every post from different days. Sunday is a day I don’t work.and the Valpo game was atrocious by both teams. I was at part of this game. I do not need to show my list as it is part of my job and honestly I do not care if you believe me or not. But what I have said to date on here has not been wrong it has been all facts. You just haven’t liked what I have said. Again never said CP will win/should win/deserve to win/ect

I do not believe that CP has played Penn this year.

Again you don’t know me or what I do for a living. I guarantee I have attended more 6A games in Indiana - and specifically between a variety of 6A schools

Bits and pieces - therefore you assume what the record would be. I think people need to taking reading and comprehending classes here. again, my post was about predicting CP’s future success or claiming they should win against Indy powerhouses. It’s about giving CP and schools like them the recognition they deserve for what they’ve accomplished, while acknowledging the very real challenges they face. CP is hungry for success, and whether they get there or not, they’ve earned the right to be part of the conversation.

It absolutely does go both ways, however that also means it goes both ways for the teams in Indy. While it has been stated by numerous posters that CP is unknown (because realistically I am guessing those posters don’t knows anything about those teams or has watched them). But I have watched and been to numerous games by these Indy teams and have also been to games in Fort Wayne and also in northwest Indiana.

No problem - it happens.

Please tell me where I stated they will win state in my posts above?

That was not me but good try.

agreed.

I want to reiterate that the point of my post wasn’t to claim that CP will win or should win State. I’m not here to guarantee outcomes. Instead, my focus was on addressing the general perception—or lack thereof—about CP and other schools that aren’t from Indy. My intention was to draw attention to how CP, despite being a strong team, this year, is often overlooked on this site. This is Coach Buz's 4th year at CP. It is clear every year he has been there, the team has improved. CP was not a football school before Buz--again, last year was the first time the school EVER made it to state. Accordingly, I NEVER said CP was unstoppable, or anything of that nature. ALL I stated was that they had improved. I never even stated that they were guaranteed to get to state!

I am 99.9% sure that neither of our words on a forum will have ZERO impact come next month or next year. Again, never said anything about other teams and improvement. I have watched many teams - you know nothing about me or what I do and that is ok. I enjoy reading your posts and seeing your insights. But I am not seeing things inside of a vacuum. If I had time and energy I would go to all the posts from earlier this season (including a week or two ago) where things about teams were said and then all of a sudden changed all within the Indy teams and how great they, are not great, they are they are going to win it al, best offense, best defense, horrible, etc and show how you all make claims and backtrack without people calling out I would. It is crazy how much you all claim things and then change it (within weeks/days).

When did I say no one else improved. NEVER.

CP is a strong potential opponent this year, and as it has been stated on this site have many unknowns surrounding their progress. This make them even more dangerous. Despite last year’s 28-point loss, they’ve shown significant improvement (but clearly isn’t known here) which means they shouldn’t be underestimated. Facing a team like CP not only challenges strengths but also prepares for high-pressure situations. With CP hunger for redemption and the unpredictability of their growth, CP poses a serious threat, and ignoring them could be a costly mistake.

Ben Davis deserved to win last year. They were phenomenal. And, It wasn’t bragging when i stated that CP lost by 28 points, it was stating a fact. I was at the game and I admitted that it was hard to watch and I admit it was not fun to see a team lose by 28 at state. temp stated that during regular season, Ben Davis beat their opponent on average by more than that. Again, everyone always talks about how SOS matters. So does SOS not matter for CP during their first ever state appearance when it was still less than the average for Ben Davis opponents? My original post was to state that the Indy people don’t even care to look at teams in the North. I was sharing facts as these teams get completely overlooked despite their impressive work this year.

I didn’t necessarily mean to target you only, it was that you posted last. I am sorry it was taken out on you. And I’m not saying they should necessarily be favored, just be given some thought or at least watched, looked into, something. And yes, seeing it to believe it is necessary. Otherwise it is all talk. But with the way many of the powerhouses have been this season, I think that the right team can do it. However, until it happens, it is all speculation. And I don’t know if it will be CP, or if it will happen by the north anytime soon, but it would be nice when there is talent teams are at least not afterthought.

Again, as you said earlier- Taking the IMG game out of the equation last year, BD won itsregular season games by an average of 30.1 points per game. so cp actually did better than it’s average regular season opponents.

LOFL is ALL you got out of all of that. You claim that while your an Indy guy it would be amazing for them to pull it off, yet you literally show zero zero inkling of wanting know know anything about them.

I think Crown Point is good no doubt I just think there a 3-4 teams in the South bracket better and 1 for sure in the North bracket. I have ZERO fight in the game. I love high school sports, but I think many schools, including smaller ones and those not based in Indy, like CP often get overlooked on this site CP is much better than last year. Do you know how many current seniors are committed to playing D1 next year or how many juniors already have D1 offers? Maybe that’s something worth noting. It seems the stats of all the Indy teams, even the ones that aren’t doing great, are widely known. You both admit CP is good, yet they remain an unknown. Who exactly is better than CP in the North bracket, and what is that opinion based on? Judging by the posts, it’s clear there isn’t much familiarity with CP, despite their unexpected run at State last year. Is this lack of interest simply because "Indy is Indy?" Even the schools you claim aren't great in Indy manage to keep games close against these Indy powerhouse teams, who suddenly in week 8 is listed as number 5 and 6. Yes, many 6A Indy (and surrounding area) teams are fantastic, and Indy has been the center of powerhouse football for at least two decades. It would be great if CP could play more regular season games against 6A Indy powerhouses. Unfortunately, the DAC isn't strong. But logistically, CP would have to travel two hours to face teams like Brownsburg, Center Grove, Carmel, Warren, and Westfield, and there's also the time zone difference. It even takes 1.5 hours just to get to Penn/Elkhart (and there is also a time zone difference there too)! Meanwhile, Indy teams have much shorter trips and remain in the same time zone. Hopefully, CP can schedule a good 6A opponent next season and make it work, and continue to make their schedule stronger. Just imagine the force they will be. Coach Buz took them to state after only being there for 3 years. I admit, many 6A Indy teams are great and Indy has had the powerhouses for 2 decades now at least. It would be awesome if CP would have more regular season games against 6A teams, or some of the Indy powerhouses. The DAC is not great. But think about it, it takes 2 hours for CP to get to Brownsburg, Center Grove, Carmel, Westfield, LN, and Warren - and there is also an hour time difference. Heck, it takes 1 1/2 hours to get from CP to Penn/Elkhart and there is an hour time difference as well. It takes the Indy teams generally less than an hour to get to each other and is in the same time zone. Hopefully, CP can add a game next season against another 6A team that will is good and make it work out. This season, CP has had a running clock by halftime in all 8 games. CP’s 1st team defense has shut out opponents in the first half in 7 of those 8 games. The stats are impressive, especially considering the starters mostly only play the first half (sometimes just the first quarter). Often, both the starters and backups take a knee on extra points or focus on other aspects of the game instead of running up the score. CP has committed just one turnover (a fumble) and has thrown zero interceptions this season. Here’s a look at CP’s 2024 season games: Lowell: 44-7 Arizona College Preparatory: 42-7 Merrillville: 46-13 Lake Central: 42-14 Portage: 58-20 Valparaiso: 41-6 LaPorte: 42-0 Chesterton: 41-7 For comparison, here are some of CP’s "closer" games from 2023 along with Tournament games: Merrillville: 39-6 Lake Central: 38-12 Valparaiso: 19-14 Chesterton: 21-7 Lafayette Jefferson (Sectional Semi-Final): 42-10 Lake Central (Sectional Championship): 42-7 Penn (Regional): 34-33 Westfield (Semi-State): 38-31 Ben Davis (State): 38-10 Even with a weaker schedule, CP only lost to Ben Davis by 28 points in the State Championship last year. That was CP’s first-ever trip to State in football, and Coach Buzea was only in his 3rd season while battling cancer throughout his tenure as a coach during those 3 years at CP. Losing by 4 TDs in their first trip to State with a weaker schedule is pretty impressive, especially considering other teams that have been to State before have lost by similar margins. Last year, CP only beat Valpo by 5 points. This year, CP beat Valpo by 35 points. Penn, who beat Valpo by 17 points last year, barely scraped by with a 7-point win this season. Penn is 6-2 this year, with losses to Mishawaka (7-27) and Elkhart (3-7). Both Elkhart and Penn played New Prairie—Elkhart won by 3, while Penn won by 17. If a Penn/CP game happens, I think it will be a good game, however, I think it will be a MUCH different game than it was last year. If the Penn/Elkhart was a close game and Penn/Valpo was a close game, there is little reason to believe otherwise, especially with the New Prarie game for both teams. If CP makes it out of Sectional 1, then they will have to the winners of Sectional 2 for Sectional Finals, so Carroll, Elkhart, FW Northrop, or FW Snider. If CP is Sectional 1/2 Champion and moves on to Regionals, they will play the Sectional 3/4 Champion, so either Carmel, Harrison (West Lafayette), Westfield, Zionsville, Fishers, HSE, Homestead Noblesville. Last year, everyone thought CP would be out at Regionals, just like everyone thought that Brownsburg or Centergrove would go further. All those assumptions were wrong. In fact, CP dominated Regional game and Semi-state game, however, in the 2nd half they allowed way to many mistakes which allowed Penn and Westfield to get back into the game and make it too close for comfort. Hopefully, CP learned from the mistakes, and are stronger and better for it. I’m not sure how the rest of the season will play out, but I think CP and Coach Buzea are ready to make some noise for the North. They’re hungry for it! If