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**HYPOTHETICAL** point spreads for the best games this week. (Bringing this back as I saw that there are similar threads on Ohio’s hs football forum using imaginary point spreads)
Not a ton of great games this week
GOTW: Homestead at FW Carroll (-6.5)
Penn (-15) at Elkhart
Fishers at HSE (-17.5)
Mishawaka at Concord (-4)
Harrison WL at Zionsville (-7.5)
Bloomington South at Castle (pk)
New Prairie (-2) at Culver
East Central at Mooresville (-4.5)
Mishawaka Marian (-11) at Tippecanoe Valley
Warren Central (-24) at Lawrence Central
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1 hour ago, MarkCalaway said:
6A: Center Grove over Westfield
5A: Cathedral over Valparaiso
4A: Leo over Roncalli
3A: Gibson Southern over West Lafayette
2A: Luers over Linton-Stockton
1A: Lutheran over Adams Central
What say you?
In 5a I see Snider or Zionsville getting there over Valpo. Leaning towards Snider right now which I would have never thought before this season.
4a Roncalli will win it all
3a I’ve got Brebeuf. Gibson Southern can definitely get it done though. 3a should have the best title game in my opinion
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Missed opportunity for Harrison and Eastbrook to play each other, would have been a good game. Hammond Central is terrible, Harrison will win by 50+.
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Merrillville has proven to be arguably be the premier northern 5a/6a team of the state within the past 3-5 years, Valpo is probably next in line. That being said, last year was probably one of the best teams they’ve ever fielded and that ended in a semi-state loss (nothing to be ashamed of at all). But anyone more than a casual fan knows they are probably somewhere in the 10-15 range of best 6a teams this year. They lost some really good talent from last year. That being said, they’ve earned the right to be ranked in 6a so far. They should win their sectional fairly easy over Jeff again. Regional will be tough against Chesterton, (maybe Elkhart, but i doubt they best Chesterton) and they could very well earn another semi state birth.
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Harrison (WL) 15 Kankakee Valley 0 2Q
West Lafayette 20 Western 7 1Q 3:34
Lafayette Jeff 41 McCutcheon 7 1Q
Westfield 14 Zionsville 7 2Q 4:28
Ben Davis 21 Pike 7 2Q 9:40
Fishers 8 Noblesville 6 HALF
Brownsburg 7 Franklin Central 7 2Q
Cathedral 16 Penn 0 1Q
HSE 33 Avon 0 2Q 5:22 (wow)
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CG 45-14
Warren 52-21
BD 49-16
LN 38-21
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GOTW: Carmel at Center Grove (-17.5)
Fishers (-5) at Noblesville
FW Luers at Homestead (-6.5)
Roncalli (-9.5) at Chatard
Westfield (-19) at Zionsville
Avon at HSE (-4)
Chesterton at Michigan City (-3)
Decatur Central at Whiteland (pk)
Lawrence Central at Lawrence North (-18)
North Central at Warren Central (-24)
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Sorry if you were one of the posters who disagreed with the creation of this post last week.
But the show will go on.
GOTW Cathedral (-22) at BrownsburgChatard at Warren Central (-15.5)
Roncalli (-28) at Franklin Central
New Pal at Brebeuf (-3)
Warsaw (-4.5) at Michigan City
Westfield (-32) at Harrison (West Lafayette)
Avon at Ben Davis (-6.5)
FW Carroll at FW Snider (pk)
Columbus North at Columbus East (-5)
Decatur Central at Center Grove (-29.5)
Detroit King (Mich) at Carmel (-11)
Elkhart at Mishawaka (pk)
Fishers (-3.5) at Pike
HSE (-5.5) at North Central
Adams Central at Eastside (-4)
FW Concordia at Homestead (-13)
FW North at FW Dwenger (-14.5)
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Merrillville over Westfield? Come on. By a significant margin too. I would still rank Westfield over Brownsburg as well.
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Will update the final results tomorrow morning. A better and more interesting week 1 than anticipated
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Wow, Gibson Southern, Brebeuf and West Lafayette all with very impressive wins tonight. 3a is looking like the most intriguing class early on. 6a also looking strong with Carmel’s big W along with Westfield playing Cathedral extremely tough
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Hopefully this isn’t frowned upon but I thought it would be fun to create point spreads for some of the noteworthy games each week of the season and see what people think. It can seem too easy to pick winners in hs football in Indiana but with a point spread it’s a whole different story. I am attempting to cover all the “big” games I can but it’s certainly easy to miss a few with the large amount to deal with.
This was not created to have people guess every single game (if you want to, go for it), but rather to garner discussion for games that perhaps had no other thread to be discussed in.
Reply with as little or as much as you’d like. If you feel you know 1 game much better than the others let us know what you think will happen.
Keep in mind I am creating these lines myself. If you believe I misjudged it badly please let me know and give your reasoning. I am creating these as I see fit, I have one favorite team who is not even included this week, no favoritism is used.
This is being made to create discussion, nothing more nothing less, no hard feelings intended. Please take this lightly. I love this site and cannot wait for games to kickoff tomorrow night.GOTW: Cathedral (-14.5) at Westfield
Ben Davis at Brownsburg (pk)
Carmel at Louisville Trinity (-18)
Center Grove (-27) at Warren Central
Lafayette Jeff (-11.5) at West Lafayette
Lawrence North at Avon (-5.5)
Mishawaka at Mishawaka Marian (-3.5)
New Palestine at Decatur Central (-5)
Noblesville at Mount Vernon (-6.5)
North Central (-14.5) at Fishers
Penn (-3) at Valparaiso
Pike at Zionsville (-15.5)
Sheridan at Western Boone (-12.5)
Lawrence Central at HSE (-19)
LCC at Tri-West (-8.5)
Homestead (-16.5) at FW Northrop
FW Snider (-12) at FW North
FW Dwenger (-20.5) at Fort Wayne Wayne
Evansville Central (-17) at Evansville Mater Dei
Columbus East at Whiteland (pk)
Jesuit Brebeuf at Bishop Chatard (-29.5)
Andrean at Merrillville (-9.5)
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2 hours ago, MICFan34 said:
Center Grove @ Warren Central
Ben Davis vs Brownsburg (@ Lucas Oil Stadium)
Carmel @ Louisville Trinity
Lawrence Central @ HSE
LN @ Avon
North Central @ Fishers
Pike @ Zionsville
Let's hear some thoughts about the unofficial HCC MIC Challenge in Week 1!
CG 41 WC 14
BD 31 Brownsburg 24
Trinity 45 Carmel 21
HSE 27 LC 6
Avon 35 LN 26
NC 28 Fishers 21
Zionsville 38 Pike 24
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13 minutes ago, gonzoron said:
Why not put these 8 teams in their own division then? We could call it 6B.
Because schools with 1600 students have a much better chance of beating a school with 2100 students than a school of 2100 students does at beating a school of 3000-5200 students. Thought that was obvious
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Anyone else find it it strange all the people against DT’s proposition are fans of schools like BD, CG, Cathedral and Carmel? These people act like schools like Chesterton and Lafayette Jeff are on the same playing field as Ben Davis. How hard headed and stubborn do you need to be to deny the huge population disadvantages these schools have? This is strictly about giving these 8 programs a more fair shot at a deep tourney run. That’s all. The IHSAA can’t stop the big 4 from putting the best teams on the field and passing the trophy back and forth, but they can at least do their best to balance it as best they see fit. The bullcrap response about participation trophies from Grover is so lame. Talk about being narrow-minded. We get it dude, CG can win it all with 2500 students. They are an outlier. Outliers exist. Do you get off by having schools that have good football programs that could compete with the best in 5a stuck at the bottom of 6a? Or do you just really like the number 32 for some reason? Really weird
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2 hours ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said:
The shade is blinding for the Irish. Not one Preseason All-State candidate for this Cathedral senior class? Amazing. Keep sleeping on these boys.
No one is sleeping on them. They are clearly the consensus favorite. Good try
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As much as I dislike how dominant the MIC is in football… i don’t want to see any of the top dogs like CG and Carmel move to the HCC. If that happens there is no longer the argument that the MIC is one of the best football conferences in the Midwest, as well as the fact that the conference will be significantly less strong. Becomes a 2 man race between Warren and Ben Davis for the foreseeable future.
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Good list DT… I’m looking forward most to how Elkhart does this season. They really surprised me with how well they played against Merrillville in regionals last year. For a year 1 program they looked fantastic
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16 hours ago, Footballking16 said:
You clearly missed the point. Congratulations.
I got your point just fine, that was just too stupid to ignore. Go off though FootballKing
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On 6/14/2021 at 8:56 AM, Footballking16 said:
The talent composite really illustrates the talent disparity across college football. The talent disparity between Ohio State and a school like Wisconsin, who by most is considered or perceived to be the 4th best B10 team (behind PSU and Michigan) is significantly greater than the talent disparity between Wisconsin and a school like Indiana or Rutgers, by an extremely wide margin.
Who the hell thinks Michigan is better than Wisconsin? Wiscy has owned them as of late. Wiscy 5-2 in last 7 meetings. And they consistently have a better record. You’re stupid.
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2 hours ago, BTF said:
Northern 5A gets a new look with Snider jumping into the mix. Overall though, it's looking like Cathedral at the top..........unless they are going through a rebuilding year. Who comes next though? Zionsville seems to be the safe bet, but you can never count out New Pal. Snider returns a boat load from last year.
Cathedral – Reloading as usual? Up or down this year? Does it make a difference? Number one until proven otherwise.
Zionsville – apparently a pretty good core returning from last year? They were pretty good in 2020 and kids tend to make massive improvements from their junior to senior years.
New Palestine – Although I wasn’t real impressed with his assessment of the Snider/New Pal game in 2015, I still think he is one of the Top 5 coaches in Indiana. Up or down? Someone from Central Indiana chime in on this one.
Dwenger – coming directly from the Dwenger community, this could be a rebuilding year. Or is it? Jason Garrett has proven himself as a top tier coach. Dwenger is Dwenger, so I’m not buying into the rebuilding talk. Reloading is probably more than likely. They have a tough act to follow though. I’ve never seen a team as dominant as Dwenger over the last two years and not even make it to the state championship game.
Valpo – another program whose contingent claims to be in a rebuilding year. Apparently they’ve lost a lot of studs, but word has it that there is a pretty good quarterback in the pipeline?
Snider – one year removed from their most lackluster performance in three decades, this years team needs to prove itself on the field. Returning 17 starters including an Ohio State recruit anchoring the offense and a Purdue commit anchoring the defense, the pieces are in place for a return to glory
Think Cathedral still has to be the favorite. Really hope Snider lives up the hype next season, Indiana high school football is better when they are a contender. Don’t think Valpo will be a title threat. Zionsville should be a contender again, can’t speak for Dwenger. Don’t know what New Pal is returning but will be interested to see how they do, we will find out week 1 vs Decatur Central. Coach Ralph is undoubtedly a top 3 coach, sure a lot of people have him as the best (I do).
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1 hour ago, BDGiant93 said:
Jeff and Harrison were in the HCC and left.
They were “asked to leave” or just straight up booted, can’t remember which. Jeff would be pretty competitive if they rejoined, Harrison is probably a little bit better than Noblesville and Franklin Central. Can’t ever see it happening though sadly
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7 minutes ago, BigBH said:
not really...just reread your original post and was torn on calling a female body part or just simply stupid.
Simply stupid would have been more appropriate. This isn’t bleacher report little guy
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3 minutes ago, BigBH said:
do you need a tampon anytime soon?
Oh man you got me good. So funny.
Sectional Semi’s Point Spreads
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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How so? You think it should be higher? WC won first meeting by 35. LC coming off about as impressive of a loss as you can have losing to Carmel only 14-0.