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Congratz to Seymour and BNL for share of the HHC title! Congratz to JC on much improved program! Good to see them competing! even tho the conference remains down- I do enjoy seeing parity in the conference. Good luck in the tourney to all HHC teams!

Thanks Coach Comer - and congrats on your new role at Danville! Make sure you give Poole a hard time :) Team Indiana alumni

Seymour board approved the hire of Tyson Moore as the new head football coach at Seymour High School. Moore was the offensive line coach at Seymour last season and this will be his first head coaching position. Moore has spent time as OL, DL, Strength and Conditioning roles. Moore has spent time coaching at Anderson University as a grad assistant, assistant OL coach at Centre Grove HS, and recently 1 year as Seymour OL coach.

Well, looks like Seymour is hiring another young first time HC. Any coaches out there- be ready for another opening in 2-4 years....smh.

Well, Seymour is headed back to rebuilding while they are currently rebuilding lol. We can’t keep a coach here. Kelly is out- agreed to move to HSE to be their new head coach. Moving to a more target rich environment. Disappointing really, but not unexpected. it seems the going rate for Seymour coaches is 3-4 years, then get out while you can. hiring new coaches, or at least good young ones seems to be a bad model for Seymour. Spend 3-4 years building rapport and use as a springboard to bigger program. It not working. Shattuck to the new power in the north at Elkhart, and now Kelly to HSE.

Coach Kelly is a stand up leader of men. Seymour fan here and I can tell you that records don’t speak to this coaches ability. Seymour is starved for talent, size, athletes and has gone up a class to 5a due to a 38% Hispanic rate (overall) which we don’t get the benefit of added players. It’s a tough place to be competitive. With that being said- Kelly has done about as good a job as anyone could. we hate to see him go, but understand the move to a more target rich area. He’s a no nonsense, do your job kind of coach.

Rumor is Seymour is out when another conference opening is found. What's going on with the conference?

Rank all teams 1-317 Drop the lowest 100 (qualifier) Divide up rest into 4 tourney's based on rankings. That's competitive balance.

Shattuck took an 0-10 Seymour team and turned them into 8-4 in 4 years (with really nothing to work with). Prior to that, coached up in Michigan with the same scenario with same result. He's a good one, but yes he is "young". I'm looking forward to see what he can do.

From Seymour perspective, these 2 programs have the most upside. They blew out Seymour JV - not even close. Seymour Freshman team was 5-2 Beat everyone but BNL and Floyd - neither game was close. BNL and Floyd have a good pipeline.

Running Clock start of 2nd half - thank god lol. Franklin is the most well balanced team we've faced. Considering going to the New Pal Vs Franklin game next week. HHC teams 0-4 versus non-HHC teams. Good luck to Floyd or Jeff in the Regionals!

He's bound to be getting D1 looks. Good luck in tourney play, I think this is one of better teams I've seen from Floyd.

Thanks- but I think we need a little more than luck 🙂 i thought is was pretty even penalty wise, but yea- he had another 65 yarder called back. Praying this cat is a senior???

Floyd RB - wow that cat is fast! Broke a 95 ya touchdown and made it look like everyone else were standing still lol. was a fun game to watch- Seymour 4 turnovers doomed them as well as not being to cover a pass- still. After seeing the conference- it would surprise me if Floyd doesn’t win the sectional.

Humes is a freshmen- and team indiana Select last year. North tried there best to recruit him, and almost had him. Would look better in Purple tho- just what we need- an athlete lol.

Senior night at Seymour - so emotions will be high. Not sure whether this helps or hurts the Owls ( i would assume it would help as they have notoriously come out slow all year). It's all going to depend on which Seymour team shows up.

You are correct. I think they CHOOSE not to seed based on how the pairings come out historically (disrupts the ping pong balls :) ). What I'm discussing is how can we change the entire system to have more competitive play.

Thanks for your input JustRules. I'm not sure where random all in came from, but it's a conversation starter. The end goal is to have meaningful tournament play and even out the competition. As Cathedral gentleman pointed out, and rightfully so, the bottom 1-2 "splits" could easily be cut. The remaining are split off by some power ranking (Not Saragin, it was a first glance at ANY ranking system). I believe some variation of this would be better than the current point based factors.

ye of little vision :) Conversation has evolved - keep up lol !

interesting theory - and yes, I've seen it in elite middle school football tourneys the same way. However, I don't think this would be an issue for high school team sports. If a qualifying system is used at the end of the season, it would remove the bottom teams from tournament play. I don't think we need to cut it in half, but the top 4 possibly. And if the general consensus is to have all teams play in tournament, I still think its more competitive for a power ranking system than current format.

That's very true - good point. Most teams have conference goals and "intentionally" losing and risking conference losses - some may I guess. So maybe a better option is to qualify, then split. I can support that.

I see your point - but it gives them something to play for - call it the Toilet Bowl if you like - but it's competitive - even a watered down version. Or do a hybrid of selection qualification with the power rankings - then it would be more like Illinois model. I'd entertain that.

how do they know they are a borderline team? I would doubt the ISHAA would post tournament rankings throughout the season. Keep in mind I'm not saying the end product is the Saragin ratings, just a good look at A ranking system.

Once again, I'm just looking at Saragin as a first look tool - would need to be improved to catch outliers I understand your point, but don't totally agree. So if I understand, you think we should go to a qualifying metric and not include all teams in tournament play? I could support that. I do not agree that anything gets watered down more than it already is. For some, I can see where they would think that after being power houses in lower class for years (SF does help - but only to a point). I would argue the opposite. I think it would bring more competitiveness as teams could compete. Would the lower class be a watered down version of Indiana football - sure just as it is now, but the upper echelon of teams would make for 2-3 highly engaging tournaments. Enrollments are manipulated by recruiting and open enrollment - time to end the manipulation.

Keep in mind - as Ive stated, this is first look and the fomula would need to be improved to catch some outliers... However, They wouldn't according to Saragin and the cut off of each tourney. Heck, New Pal is one of the top teams in the state and would play in the "6a" tourney. Matter of fact, Dwenger, New Pal, and Cathedral would all be in the top tournament. Brownstown would be playing in the "4a" tournament.