IndianaWrestlingGuy1

Miuuuuuudaaaa. Muuuuuda. Where art thou? Eating ice cream in Rossville thinking up ways to weaken the IHSAA and the class warfare no doubt. 

#hegemony 

4 hours ago, Titan32 said:

But they aren't at those levels enrollment wise.  There comes a point that the P/P advantages disappear once a public has enough shear volume of heartbeats in the hallways....given they have all the things any school needs to be successful:  Feeder, Facilities, Admin, Coaching, Community, etc etc.  Said another way....I don't think publics have anything to complain about at 5A and 6A with regard to private advantages.  The only thing possibly left on the table is the ability to recruit, but that is a tough argument with open transfer. 

Open enrollment should have nullified the Success Factor. But, in Muda's world, it's the perfect equality. 
 

If any of you want to sell me on a great program with great coaching and championship potential for free with an advantage over a private that has to pay thousands to possibly play their senior year, I'll kiss my own arse. To even say an East Central has some 4A disadvantage to Cathedral is laughable. Their facilities are absolutely incredible (looks like Carmel), they can recruit the entire county like Cathedral (and every Marion Co school but without competition), and have plenty of donor muscle. 
 

As long as every public in the state has some sort of competitive equity regardless of coaching, enrollment, or facilities, Muda will be happy. Socialist football is miserable though. Seek out a better situation or build better. It's really pretty simple. Irish Football has been generationally built and that is something that should not be discounted. Also 0-2 the last two years for the 'ship. 

12 hours ago, WestfieldRocks said:

I know your joking, but that $9.5 million construction you see next to the stadium at Carmel is an indoor center for the band. They are also constructing a $43 million addition/renovation to the existing natatorium, so that they can continue to recruit the state's top girls swimmers. Lord knows, some other school may someday win the girls state swimming championship. Or perhaps hey are jealous of Westfield's new natatorium that opened two years ago.  🙂

When Westfield is whining about Carmel amenities, one must really question the IHSAA P/P hegemony. You really don't have a pot to piss in, Miuuuuuuuuda. 
 

And, if you think the indoor Carmel practice facility is for the band, I'll be happy to give you a tutorial on the mental acuity of our current President or the strength of our Southern border and ironclad immigration policy. 

Poor Muda. He just wanted some equality for all the destitute public schools that got dealt a rotten hand. 

Muda. Muuuuuuda. Just jet setting around living the private school lyfeee. Just glad the we P/Ps can minimize and capitalize on all the poor Public schools. 

I just drove by Carmel's new indoor practice facility on my way down US-31, but I almost missed it because their 15,000 seat stadium clouded my view. 
 

Since Cathedral is getting evicted from our grass IPS rental (and substandard stadium by Center Grove's thermometer among others), we're searching for a new home field. Maybe Frankfort will host us?? 
 

In the meantime, we'll take any and all public players that want to play for the imperialistic private school. Free tuition and no academic standards for all incoming football players. 

13 minutes ago, temptation said:

What a disappointing weekend in terms of competitiveness.

Agree. Gross games. Publics and privates have equitable titles, but the quality of football sucks. Cathedral v EC would have been awesome. And it would have only disrupted the balance by a game. 

4A and 6A about to be equally as uncompetitive tomorrow. 

Just hoping the Irish don't try 4 onside kicks in the same game again. Maybe giving the D a chance with a king field will help them even more. See you there. 
 

Sam's Silver Circle for pre-game from 4-6p on your way south. 

36 minutes ago, PHJIrish said:

I agree with you.  Two years ago the Irish place kicker missed one PAT all season, and it hit the upright at UIndy.  I don't believe the small stands on the visitors side will be a problem because BD just doesn't travel well.  

In Van Krisoloff I Trust. Top 5 ranked kicker in the sophomore class nationally. If it is a kicking battle, I'm taking the Irish. CoachP doesn't kick outside the 30 though...

On 10/5/2023 at 9:14 PM, tango said:

Were any other Indy Catholic schools staffed by Brothers of Holy Cross? We too were a BHC school (in collaboration with the Sisters of Providence) and had brothers from 1925 until 2009 (when the last one passed away). 

Happy to report that Cathedral has two new Holy Cross brothers teaching at the school this year (and both math teachers)! 
 

It is no coincidence that Roncalli's downfall has correlated with Center Grove's rise. Roncalli doesn't have unlimited access to the southside stable anymore. Hoping they can find their mojo soon. The rivalry is a rivalry when Roncalli is competitive. 
 

Congrats on retaining the bell, Irish! 

There are twice as many deaths in America from pneumonia than from Covid under the age of 25 (CDC). These school lockdowns are a complete farce. 
 

As soon as the election happens, and especially if Biden wins, we won’t hear about this virus again. How many days will the COVID tracker on CNN last after a Biden win? I say a couple days. 
 

In the meantime, our kids are going to turn into criminals, druggies, or worse from idle hands. I can speak for the privates and say there is virtually no chance we don’t return.  Most of the Catholics schools would close permanently if we go to E-Learning again. In Cathedral’s case, we’ll be in classrooms in mid-August. 

Maybe I’m missing something, but there seems to be little talk of the Cathedral Irish here. They return all their skill players sans the QB and majority of OLine. Also advancing is a stacked junior class of 40 players that were undefeated freshmen through arguably the toughest freshmen schedule in the country. Senior depth and leadership at D-Line, RB, WR1, WR2. 
 

Our schedule lightens this year too as we only travel to Penn and Louisville Trinity. We did add a big game with Carmel out of the gates and an emerging Westfield team. I believe this is the deepest Cathedral team in a decade. We’ll know more after Carmel. 

Kendall Coleman - Cathedral/Syracuse signed with the Colts yesterday. 

A huge loss to all Marion County and State of Indiana athletics. He was as influential in wrestling as he was in football at North Central. He hosted multiple tournaments a season and always had a special place for wrestling in his heart. Rest In Peace, legend. 

Cathedral should be prohibitive faves in 4A/5A for the next two years. Incoming Junior class is loaded. Line is sick (Wood, Farah, Fowler, Koers), senior skill players nasty (McCahill, Langdon, Cam Fabulous), junior skill players ready to break out (Page, Mentzer, Hughes, Dittoe, Llewelyn) plus a D1 frosh TE (Wooten); and some red ass defenders (Huddy, Guhl, Zane, Scruggs, Ooooooozinger). Thought we had Red Dragons on the ropes for another Irish 3Peat, but they stepped up and stomped on our grapes. 

5A on notice. We’ve been doing speed drills in Greenfield Central’s gym during the COVID. Someone tell the Greenfield Reporter. 

9 hours ago, PHJIrish said:

This core of players only won two state championships.  They lost to Plainfield in the sectional  their senior year, 2000 after winning in '98 and '99.  This was a fun team to watch for sure but the 1996 Cathedral team was unbeaten state champions.  Also that year the Irish JV and Freshman teams were also unbeaten.  Maybe not as many high D1 recruits or NFL stars, but they were an outstanding team.

The 2000-2001 team lost to Plainfield in the Sectional. Arguably more talented than the 1999-2000 team, but lacking the leadership to get past their press clippings. The 1999-2000 team has 3 rings. 

And, I’ll agree 1996 was probably even with the ‘99-2000 team as far as Cathedral’s best ever. 

13 hours ago, Temptation said:

No doubt.  The analysts missed on McLaurin for sure.  He blew up at OSU.

Well, hard to say he blew up at OSU since he was the cornerstone of 3 consecutive IHSAA titles for the Irish. But, I get your drift. He has stepped up his game at every level. Truly a mentally tough beast. Forget about his 4.35 speed. 

If it culminates in a pro career for rankings, Scary Terry McLaurin is about to blow this list up. Jaylon vs.Terry for the Indiana Mr. Football fictional championship of the world IMHO. 

I have to throw in a Cathedral team or two in this discussion. I played against the Stephen Holman-led 1991 Ben Davis team. They were certainly stout beating us by 30 and we were State Runners Up in 3A that year. Their O-Line was nasty, but Holman was a freak. 
 

That said, the 1999-2000 Cathedral team would have given them all they could handle. 7 - Division1 Players and two long-time NFL veterans in Jeremy Trueblood (OL Tampa Bay) and Mathias Kiwanuka (LB/DE NY Giants). It was certainly the deepest offensive line in Indiana history. 5 of the O-linemen went D1 if you include Kiwanuka at TE. Obviously Otis Shannon held the state rushing record for a decade or two. This team won the state title 3 years in a row. Pretty impressive group. 

When the NY Giants came to Indy for the Super Bowl, this Cathedral team and the O-Line got to reunite with Kiwanuka and Trueblood for an epic reunion downtown early in Super Bowl week. Great memories. Great night. Great team!  

The Roncalli freshmen had a nice year. They gave the Cathedral freshmen all they could handle as Carhedral needed a touchdown in the Q4 2 minute drill to win. St. Barnabas was in the 2017 CYO Final and St. Jude won the 2018 CYO Championship. Both teams had some good linemen to build around (Schwartz, Neu, Butts). 

I would ask 2 questions:

1. How has the malfeasance of the former/current administration over Archbishop Thompson’s sexual identity crusade impacted enrollment? Combined with other incidents in multiple sports, it certainly has stained public perception. 
2. How has the recent emergence of Center Grove impacted Roncalli’s football pool of talent? 
 

Seems like a good reclamation project for a coach as there is less downside risk, but they will need to reestablish a brand down there.
 

PS. It all started when they dropped Cathedral from the schedule ;)  Had to get a jab in! 

25 minutes ago, Coach Hanson said:

Do not get me wrong, I do respect talent. However, I also respect investment and dedication, and right now New Pal can not be beat when it comes to dedication. I look forward to seeing what happens next year, but right now New Pal has the throne and has a lot of pressure for next year because they are losing 6-7 key players that I am not sure if they can be replaced.

I was responding to Center Grove fan, not New Pal fan. Cathedral didn’t play New Pal last year at the freshmen level. New Pal is the undisputed champion this year. They were awesome in the 4th quarter against Cathedral in the Regional. 

1 hour ago, DT said:

The upcoming sophomore class might be Center Groves best ever.  Loaded

But they couldn’t beat the Cathedral sophomores on their home field Last season. You want a loaded sophomore class, look no farther than the Irish. 

Unless Jon Goldsberry comes out of retirement, Chatard rolls. Two way players aren’t going to be able to keep pace late. Good luck to the Trojans. 

2 minutes ago, DT said:

CG has a lot of PP in its DNA

Troll. What will you do next week when the season is over and your entire social outlet has evaporated? Will you go back to playing Minecraft in your parents’ basement? Or is there another forum or blog that you try to derail constantly for instant gratification? 

2 hours ago, Obi-Wan said:

I feel like the school or the Archdiocese should get out in front before the IHSAA gets involved. Again this is super sad, but Roncalli and the Archdiocese need to show that they have the needs of their students front in center after this issue. As a teacher myself this bothers me to my core.

Roncalli and the Archdiocese aren’t exactly on the best of terms. An ongoing and open class action lawsuit between former Roncalli staff and the Archdiocese has splintered this relationship and the trust between the two. The Archbishop is too pre-occupied mitigating sexuality In the high schools to also govern a situation like this. 

I guess the Archbishop and the Vicar Counsel could use this malfeasance as an excuse to shed the leadership at Roncalli, but I think they would be too exposed to a wrongful termination suit for all the missteps both the Archdiocese and the Roncalli administration made during the Fitzgerald fallout and the subsequent staff thereafter. 

Yucky situation on the southside. You would think after all the sensitivity and inclusion training they have had lately, it might spill over to the athletics program. 

Good luck to the Trojans. Vegas has this +14.5. Long drive for BCHS.