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7 hours ago, ASJCPUMA said:
Sad state of SB football - all 4 South Bend schools got shut out according to the sports tonight by a large margin.
Well, Clay wasn’t going to score and neither was Riley. Don’t know what happened to Adams figured they’d put one or two in.
Washington never adjusted to anything defensively or offensively. They Seemed like a middle school team out there the entire night. They lacked a sense of urgency and were called for multiple delay of games.
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On 10/14/2021 at 8:40 AM, ASJCPUMA said:
Jimtown should beat Riley especially after what they did to Adams Last week
Wash - Glenn sort of toss up since have not seen one and the other has had covid issues during the year The former Glenn QB at Rb could be interesting
Penn should beat Adams and whatever gimmick Jones comes up with this week
Bremen rolls over Clay
Elk - NP both coming off big games last week. Who comes out ready to play will get it done. Maybe NP close
The "Holy War" - Not sure what to think of the SJ offense after the last 5 weeks. Almost non-existent. Atkinson scares me since SJ has no one at his level of athletic talent. Last 5 years MHS has dominated and do not see that changing this year. (Wish I was wrong)
Creed had 3TDs @ RB and would of had one on a 35 yard pass but dropped it in the end zone. Chase Howe housed a punt return and had a receiving TD and Kory VanHuss housed the opening kickoff.
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41-0 Glenn…
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Jimtown by 7 scores
Glenn by 3 scores
Marian 3 scores
New Prairie by 2 scores
Adams by 7…eh why not…
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10 minutes ago, LionKing said:
Hearing other reports that Glenn is not playing for internal reasons not related to COVID. Has anyone else heard this? I would think it must be fairly serious to not play a game that is a guarenteed win.
Fake news….nothing internal is going on. Most of been them handshakes from Laville that gave Glenn the cooties
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On 9/13/2021 at 11:55 AM, FarmerFran said:
Hammond Central @ Pioneer- This one will come down to toughness and overall depth. If the Panthers dont get worn down by sheer 5A numbers I like their chances.
LaVille @ Caston- Your gut be wrong because Caston be bad... Laville by whatever their offense can muster because Caston wont score on them...
Triton @ Culver- Dont know much about either team yet but I'll take the Trojans.
Glenn @ Knox- I like Knox by a couple of scores.
Winamac @ North Judson- I'll take the Warriors off the bye week.
Sidebar: Why didn't Winamac go pick up a team last week with LaVille out? I figured with their best team in recent years they would want to test themselves against some tougher competition prior to the tournament.
28-7 Glenn.
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8 hours ago, LionKing said:
Bremen at Jimtown -- Bremen has too many holes and Jimtown has more depth Elkhart at Penn -- Close game, Penn is beat down from schedule and not as talented Glenn at Knox, -- Knox could suprise. Glenn is not consistent on offense and someone mentioned Creed got hurt last week. Is he playing? New Prairie at St. Joseph -- New Prairie will get the running game straight after and off week. Adams at Marian -- Marian is vastly improved and playing well. Clay at Washington --- Not much to say here. Clay is outclassed each week. Creed played and ran all over Knox broke a 71 yard TD run, 53 yard TD run, 3 yard TD and threw a 67 yard TD pass…28-7 final.
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On 9/13/2021 at 9:35 AM, MarshallCounty said:
Bremen is on a lose one win one streak to start the season. It is time for the Lions to lose one once again. Jimtown has Bremen's number even when Bremen may have had the better team in games the last few years, Jimtown always wins. Jimtown 35 Bremen 22
Elkhart wins this one but I think it will be close 27-22.
Glenn should handle Knox, but I don't know what happened to the Falcons last weak. 34-20
New Prairie isn't going to lose 2 in a row, right? 35-17
Adams and Marian is gonna be interesting. Marian seems to be starting to click. Knights over Eagles 35-30
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Doesn’t help when you take the opening kick off to the 40, 3 plays later you break a long run to the 10 and can’t punch it in. TE was running free into the end zone. Then Jimtown drives it down and you pick it off on the 15…. 3 plays later you throw a pick 6. It was Glenn’s game to lose and mistakes cost them. Penalties stopped drives. 2 weeks in a row they killed themselves.
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On 9/9/2021 at 7:59 AM, TurfToe said:
Bremen- Ole Marshall county said Bremen should be full strength but what does that truly mean. Seems they are still lacking fire power. I’m going to go with the Lions by 14.
Glenn- From what I hear they’ll have their entire Oline back. People are thinking last year was a fluke but I’m picking the Falcons. Glenn gets back on track and stays undefeated in the South.
New Prairie- Noah breaks 1000 yards for the year on Marian. Recruiting can’t win this one this year. NP by 21
Riley- two god awful teams. I give Clay credit they keep fighting. But who will be taking the snaps this week? Riley has an identity crisis. What happened to the solid offensive scheme Jarvis left behind. I can’t tell if they are running a watered down version of a beginner pop Warner Flex/Navy offense. Riley by 14
Adams- if Adams can bring pressure and minimize St Joe’s run game. The Eagles will take this one by 13
St X- Penn will need to bring out the quick Crete and try to patch up the holes in their defense. This one gets out of hand 48-6
men at Triton, 7 pm Glenn at Jimtown ©, 7 pm Marian at New Prairie ©, 7:30 pm Riley at Clay ©, 7 pm St. Joseph at Adams ©, 7 pm St. Xavier at Penn, 7 pm Update* Clay by 6
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Bremen- Ole Marshall county said Bremen should be full strength but what does that truly mean. Seems they are still lacking fire power. I’m going to go with the Lions by 14.
Glenn- From what I hear they’ll have their entire Oline back. People are thinking last year was a fluke but I’m picking the Falcons. Glenn gets back on track and stays undefeated in the South.
New Prairie- Noah breaks 1000 yards for the year on Marian. Recruiting can’t win this one this year. NP by 21
Riley- two god awful teams. I give Clay credit they keep fighting. But who will be taking the snaps this week? Riley has an identity crisis. What happened to the solid offensive scheme Jarvis left behind. I can’t tell if they are running a watered down version of a beginner pop Warner Flex/Navy offense. Riley by 14
Adams- if Adams can bring pressure and minimize St Joe’s run game. The Eagles will take this one by 13
St X- Penn will need to bring out the quick Crete and try to patch up the holes in their defense. This one gets out of hand 48-6
men at Triton, 7 pm Glenn at Jimtown ©, 7 pm Marian at New Prairie ©, 7:30 pm Riley at Clay ©, 7 pm St. Joseph at Adams ©, 7 pm St. Xavier at Penn, 7 pm -
1 hour ago, Football Guru 25 said:
Is Glenn real or competition been weak?? I know Boone Grove only had 16 players week 1....not sure how good Riley is but hey i'll give them credit 2-0 just wonder if they are as good as things are starting to chatter about.....
Defense is solid. They have put the offense in very good field position. Week 1 the offense never started from its own side of the ball besides the opening kickoff which was run to the 40.
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23 hours ago, ASJCPUMA said:
Friday, Sep. 3 Hammond Central at Clay, 7:30 pm Hammond Morton at Elkhart, 7:30 pm Jimtown at Osceola Grace, 7 pm Glenn at St. Joseph, 7 pm Lowell at New Prairie, 8 pm Marian at Bremen, 7 pm Penn at Cathedral, 7:30 pm Riley at Adams, 7 pm Washington at Kankakee Valley, 7:30 pm Hammond Central will take this toilet bowl by 5 scores.
Elkhart if they can find the end zone
Jimtown by 21- they would be able to get outside on OG defense .
Glenn- will have to play mistake free ball and grind this one out. Falcons by 10
Marain- can Marian finally put a W on the board. What a disappointment with all the repeat hype. From the looks of it they won’t make it out of week1 of sectionals.
Cathedral- The Kingsmen have surely fallen. Maybe they should add back some more SB schools to bolster their records again.
Adams- takes this one easy if they don’t forfeit again…
Kankakee Valley- Washington is too one dimensional for decent teams.
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No HNAC week2?
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Brings me joy to see a little mild banter in this room…A ways to go to get on Turfs level but there’s hope yet!
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A few surprises last week let’s get week 2 rolling:
Bremen/Washington- I think this one will be a tight one. Washington will slow the game down with their ground and pound offense. Question is can Bremen contain Washington’s speed. Bremen is going to have to play mistake free. I like Washington by 6.
CMA/Marian- I’m going with Marian in this one. I don’t see CMA overpowering Marians defense. Look for Marian to take this one by 17.
Elkhart/Mishawka- Going with the Cavemen here. Elkhart has been licking its wounds since the injuries have been piling up. Cavemen by 14
Concord/Jimtown- Either Northwood defense is stellar or jimtown is one dimensional. The Jimmies will start off 0-2. Dunlap by 13
Laporte/Penn- What is going on in Granger? Is the yeoman era coming to an end? There are rumblings around the area of being on the hot seat. Something tells me different but Kingsmen +1
Adams/Fairfield- Adams should be able to handle this one quite easily. Fairfield seems to have lost some fire power and it definitely hurts their #1 QB moved out of state. Adams by 30
Clay/Goshen- not much to say Goshen by 40
Riley/Glenn- a little conference matchup. Riley was declawed by Michigan City by 60. Glenn came out strong from the first whistle. Glenn’s Defense held Boon Grove to negative yardage through 3 quarters until it appeared they put in the JV Team. Boone Grove totaled 62? Yards of total offense and only had 1 first down because of a penalty in the first half. Look for Glenn to soar Friday night by 24.
St. Joe/Northridge- going with Northridge. ST. Joe appear to lack firepower. Northridge grinds this one out by 14
Twin Lakes/NP- Cougars offense runs wild Friday night. NP by 21
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Well…..Hopefully everyone finished up last night healthy. Seemed like there were a few tight games and a couple blow outs. The Penn score was rather shocking. Adams was a big disappointment and wasn’t expecting Washington to get the W.
Glenn looked impressive. The Howe kid is a special teams nightmare. Had one called back and was 3 turf monsters from breaking others. They had 4 different players score in the game including Howe, Creed, Jolly and Patrick. 1st play of the game was a 50 yard TD pass from Creed to Jolly. Defensively Boone Groves offense had no answers. Nearly every play was a TFL.
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1 hour ago, MarshallCounty said:
I don’t know if I would call Bremen young. This group of seniors have played a lot since they were in 10th grade. Bremen lost 2/3 difference makers, but the foundation is back. LaVille will be a tough game though.
5? Seniors…or is their roster not updated on Maxpreps. Don’t see any of the guys from last year on it.
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Boone Grove V Glenn - The Falcons shutout BG in this one. Glenn only allowed 40 yards of total offense to them last year and are returning 9 of 11 defensive starters. Falcons keep them under 3 first downs this year. Look for Creed and Howe to have a big impact on offense. Falcons by 40
Concord V Elkhart - Lions have to replace 18? Starters and a Stud at RB after his summer session injury. Concord puts up a fight but Lions prove to be too much. Lions by 21
Central V Washington- Newly combined school from the region comes to battle on the west side. Can Washington’s ground and pound slow down the clock to keep it close. Central by 14
Jimtown V Northwood - Andrews teams are always well prepared. Besides Johntu Jimtown doesn’t seem to have any other weapons. Panthers stack the box in this one. NW by 21
Lakeland V St. Joe- I’ll go with the NIC here. Don’t know much about Lakeland other the going 2-8 last year. Hopefully the Indians new positive outlook will clean up their costly penalties from previous years. Indians by 10
Laville V Bremen - Laville appears to have a decent line with a good sized fb. Two young teams battling it out. Losing Dingus proves to be too much for the Lions. Laville spins past Bremen by 14
Mishawaka V Marian- Marian loses a big senior class with many weapons. Who will win the QB spot this year? Caveman kick the rock away from Atkinson in this one “hint” and their run game runs wild. Cavemen by 17.
New Prairie V Laporte - Another year removed from Radkes reign. The cougars start getting comfortable in their new scheme behind a decent Oline. Cougars by 7
Northridge V Adams - Adams speed and massive Oline proves to be too much for NR. If Jones can keep the run game alive. Adams takes this one by 14.
Osceola Grace? V Clay - is there such thing as a Tie? I’d have a better chance of scratching off a lotto ticket. Clay by 1.
Penn V Valpo - going with the black and gold in this one. If they can control the ball and capitalize on Valpos mistakes. They take this one by 7 but after their Twitter photo shoot. I’ll say plus 14.
Riley V Michigan City - wildcats sporting a two platoon system this year with freshmen/sophomores. With Luuga making a Left on to Ewing Street and into Caveman territory. The wildcats lose any experience on the defensive side. Let’s hope the pittsburg Steelers can keep it close in the 1st quarter. Michigan Cities Ballarina offense by 50.
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Welcome to week 1! Hopefully teams had a productive evening last night and finished healthy. Let the banter begin!!!....
Boone Grove V Glenn
Concord V Elkhart
Central? V Washington
Jimtown V Northwood
Lakeland V St. Joe
Laville V Bremen
Mishwaka V Marian
New Prairie V Laporte
Northridge V Adams
Osceola Grace? V Clay
Penn V Valpo
Riley V Michigan City
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1 hour ago, Gridwatcher said:
As much as I enjoy the shots at South Bend politics and school board, let's see if we can get this back on the rails.
The NIC "East-West Division" (i.e., Big Boy Football)...should have another interesting race.
Marian has to replace the QB, but has plenty of experience at the skill positions. Only one starter returns on the offensive line, but injuries caused many of those reserves to get experience during the regular season. I would look for the Knights to be togh again.
Elkhart lost a ton to graduation, but they have the league's best receiver in Donovan Johnson and a speedy running back in Jaiven Sharp. They lost one of the DC's and the OC, so we'll see how that changes things. I think they'll still be pretty good.
Will Penn be better without Powlus at QB, since the offense seemed to centered around him? Alec Hardrict is legit speedster in the backfield and a lot of experience returns on defense.
Will Casey McKim's second year result in the Cougars going back to the option? It's the most experienced offensive line coming back and some young, exciting backs. The Cougars could be ready to make a run at the conference crown.
Adams is another team with most of the o-line returning, some good skill people back and about half of the defensive starters back.
Older history would tell you St. Joe belongs in this division, more recent would say they should go the North-South. Bryon Whitten has to replace his QB, O-Line and D-Line and play everyone mentioned above. Good Luck.
As for the North-South, Bremen has 4/5 of it'[s o-line back, an experienced QB in Ethan Nunemaker and about half the defense back. If the Lions can find a solid running back, they should be a force to be reckoned with.
Cory Stoner at Jimntown has the division's most electric player in Johntu Reed, but he has to find an O-line and patch some holes at linebacker.
John Glenn returns 19 of 22 starters. A healthy Nathan Creed at QB had the Falcons playing well before he was hurt against Bremen. It could be a banner year in Walkerton if he returns to form.
Todd Stammich had a prtty young team at Washington last season and they made strides at the end of the season. The defensive line is the biggest question mark that has to be answered.
Justin Kinzie's Riley team had problems scoring points last year, so the offense has been the focus of the off-season. You wonder if things might change a little bit in terms of the system they run on the South Side.
And then there's Clay, which at least got a win last year. They haven't had two in a year since 2014. We'll see if that's possible.
Welcome to the board Gridwatcher. You have to be a seasoned vet who was locked out of their old account. But, there's still a kid to worry about at Marian and his name his Atkinson. He is a major threat in the return game. I think Marian will have no choice but to play him on the offensive side of the ball. Does he get a shot at his old position at QB?
Elkhart will have some question marks but a school that size will hopefully be able to fill in those vacancies. I see them hovering over the .500 mark easily.
Penn will float around the .500 mark as long as they can steer clear of those Ohio schools. No one has updated maxpreps for this year to see.
Adams is a big question mark. They lose some solid athletes this year. But, it just seems like they can haven't been able to piece anything together since Redman.
I agree about Jimtown's Johntu. Kid can play but I wouldn't necessarily call him electric just yet. Lets see what Jimtown actually does with him this year. Most receivers can run a post pattern and he was decent back. Teams like Osceola Grace definitely make you look exceptional though.
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3 hours ago, Cheez said:
The series between Bremen and Riley is 2-2 in the last 4 years. While 3 of those games ended with a final score that wasn't close (the average margin of victory of the last 4 games was 22 points), every one of the games was hard-fought and competitive up until the end. If the landscape of conferences changed and Bremen and Riley ever ended up in different conferences, there's a very strong argument there that both communities would be well-served by making sure this series continued into the future.
The overall consensus is that the conference prefers to have a strong showing from all SB Schools in all sports. That's the reason for being in a conference. Lately, it's been a la carte. Riley the past 4 years in football has been rather decent averaging 38, 22, 32.1 points per game. Last year was rather disappointing to see only a 13.8 average. It will be interesting to see how Riley does this year and if they will bring that old school Marion style offense to the SE side. It will surely keep the opposing teams offense off the field if they can control the ball and grind it out. At times it seemed like they only had 10 players on defense with the safety playing 25 yards back at times.
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This thread looked promising for a minute. Then complete silence 😄. But, Congratulations to Jarvis Edison who joined Elkhart's staff.
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10 hours ago, johnny U said:
Lets let TurfToe tell us what he meant tell us what he was referring to when he mentioned Washington's eligibility of players in football. Most of the factors that determine eligibility
can be determined long before the season starts. Grade are one of last factors that can be determined for eligibility. I'm betting TurfToe was referring to grades.
Sorry, didn’t mean to keep you waiting. Since, you ASSume it had to do with grades and now I need to clarify a question I asked. I’ll ask it again...Will they have enough eligible players to play? Being you have an issue with my question and are defensive do you know something? Other wise keep scrolling by. Washington is now the new Clay. They can’t field a girls softball team or soccer team this year, but clay could. Their wrestling program ended the season with 3? wrestlers. A few short years ago the football program 65-75 during summer workouts. Numbers have dwindled. So it’s a bit concerning and a valid question. Don’t act like they didn’t forfeit an entire season do to a 5th year senior not to long ago. So the eligibility question is also valid. Scroll on
NIC teams in 1st round of the Sectional
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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Don't let Kankakee's record full you. They lost to a 1 loss Harrison...Hobart whose 7-3, Andrean 7-3, and Lowell 7-3 and Highland. Those are hard match-ups to overcome.
Plymouth has a lower level problem. Seems like their youth programs are suffering a significant number drop.
lol, Marian/Washington....how about them miscues. I'm no Knight fan but what game did you watch that gave you the impression that Washington would make this a game. Their offensive line was left on spin cycle last week staring into the backfield as Glenn had multiple tackles for losses on that high octane 5 play offense. It was over in the 1st quarter.
You also haven't checked much tape on Glenn seeing as their Defense has allowed the 2nd fewest points in the entire NIC. Thats with Glenn never having their actual starters all playing together at any given point in the season. They have 3 season ending injuries (1 not related to football) dating back to week 3. Glenn rolled Washington and followed it up by rolling Lakeland. Lakeland who has heavily relied on their passing game threw 4 interceptions. They completed 3? short passes. Freshmen QB threw for 4TDS (would of had one running but it got called back) and Creed pounded it on the ground for the rest (also had 1 receiving TD)
Jimtown seemed like they had some trouble with the Ligoneer natives. 21-16 at one point.