DK_Barons

I see you putting your name on OOB

That wouldn't be in Stark County, would it?

Computers have greatly changed mechanics too and at a quicker pace than any other time in history.

This seems like an odd place to get into a serious discussion on these topics. Those opinions in the provided link are not anything I haven't seen before, I happen to be on the other side of the fence though. I will admit there isn't really a "correct" answer. Many people consider mechanics to be part of the broad topic of grammar also. In which case saying something is a part of mechanics is also saying it is a part of grammar in general. Some consider the overall topic of punctuation a part of mechanics while others do not. The opinion represented in the provided link usually stems from an argument along the lines of this: It doesn't matter whether the first letter of a sentence is capitalized or not so far as the meaning of the sentence, Which I concede is pretty accurate. Based on that the conclusion drawn is the one that therefore capitalization is not grammatical in the sense clarity. In fact, in the spoken language we wouldn't know if a capital letter was present or not. But the silly joke I provided does clearly show in the written language how a couple capital letters can make a big difference in the connotation of the two sentences. This and other examples like it form the other side of the argument that capitals can and do provide clarity and enhance or provide meaning and thus must also be a category of grammar. The rules for things like capitalization have changed just in my lifetime let alone over many more generations. In fact, they are changing today. I read an interesting article on that topic not too long ago. I recently finished a book I was writing for my lodge on its history as it approaches its 200th anniversary. I compiled several past histories, the oldest was written in the 1850s. I transcribed each as is, but after doing so and reading them over a few times I decided to take liberties with the original works and updated a number of things such as capitalization, punctuation and even some basic word structure to match current conventions. I tried to stay true to the original with my edits while easing the readability for the audience. I cited them as transcribed and noted the types of alterations I made and left the reader the locations of the original works if they are interested. My point is in language things are constantly changing and as they change disagreements exist even among the experts in the field. I prefer teaching in my field, mathematics. One might think you would not have the above issue with a topic like math but that would be far from the truth. This is one University's English Dept.'s list of the subtopics of grammar, but another's list could, may, and most likely will vary. Syntax and Sentence Structure Comma Splices, Run-ons, and Fragments Subject-Verb Agreement Verbs Verb Tense Nouns and Pronouns Preposition Usage Articles Commonly Confused Words General Punctuation Comma Usage Semicolon and Colon Usage Possessives Hyphens and Dashes Quotation Marks Parenthesis and Ellipses Mechanics ...BACK TO THE FUNNIES NOW

Now that is an innovative sales lady.

Here's one where spelling/capitalization makes a big difference. ...also considered a grammatical error if you intended one but penned the other. Coach Nowlin was out in the barn helping my Uncle Jack off a horse. verses Coach Nowlin was out in the barn helping my uncle jack off a horse.

I don't disagree that the error is one of punctuation, but punctuation is a subset of grammar, thus it is also a grammatical error as stated. Grammar is "the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general". It includes many subtopics.

Hmm, so when was punctuation no longer considered a part of the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general? 😉

These just belong together.

neither, Sluts Holler....

Nice story... I have been keeping an eye on Nolf at Penn St. the last few years. This is his senior year there. He has not disappointed. This guy has some unconventional moves they catch top rank opponents off guard and they end up pinned.

Look what happened to Sun Valley, PA when they came over to visit Massillon, OH this past season in October. https://massillontigers.com/schedules/varsity-schedule-don/ https://www.massillontigers.com/statistics/2018/oct12-18.htm

This must be in Slut Holler, WV (that's my neck of the woods, I can make fun of it if I want)

I think I might have come up with a solution... Let me know if there is a difference.

There are some odd things going on. I think they are beyond my control but I will look into what I can do.

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A yard full of these would be impressive.

Dude... LOL

...or just use the actual DOE data. I am from SW Ohio. If Lakota HS hadn't split into East and West a number of years back it would be over 5k now. oct_hdcnt_fy19.xls

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I have always looked at OOB as just what it says... 😉 I have a whole collection of stuff I would not post here. Nudity that would get you in trouble in a public place should be avoided. I don't curse much at all myself, so little, in fact, my close friends look at me oddly when I do, but I have no issue with most language. ...there is a time and a place I guess. Separating the OOB area into a club gives it more separation from the main site to allow little bit looser reigns to be applied too. Congrats on the promotion (in here). 🙂