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What just happened in Mexico?
swordfish replied to swordfish's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
I'm not questioning the MSM - I am just floored at how this situation has worsened to this point without any optics. This isn't new, this has literally been going on for years. Massive dumps of bodies being found (hundreds), tortured, beheaded, bodies ripped apart. Yet our President gets lambasted for even mentioning these people exist within the innocents of Mexico...... -
What just happened in Mexico?
swordfish replied to swordfish's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
https://wsbt.com/news/nation-world/9-us-citizens-slaughtered-in-mexico-ambush-family-says?fbclid=IwAR1ygSSjjYkkHDOXLvvVOPVBKGQxyEYIvPyOMrwYkGvbKNK3bzhCfCEor3I SALT LAKE CITY (KUTV) — Three women and six of their children, all with ties to Utah, were slaughtered Monday in Mexico. The women and their kids are all dual Mexican and U.S. citizens and were traveling back to the U.S, when family members say they were ambushed by cartels. It happened near Bavispe, in Sonora, about 100 miles south of Mexico’s border with Arizona. Three women and six children were killed in an attack in Mexico on Monday, Nov. 4, 2019, family members told 2News. (Photo: KUTV) Lafe Langford Jr. posted video on Facebook of a burned-out SUV on Monday afternoon. It's believed to be the car of María Rohnita Miller, who Langford wrote was killed in the attack. He said her car was struck so badly with gunfire that it exploded. Four of her children died inside the vehicle with her, according to Langford's post. María Rohnita Miller and her two babies were slain in Mexico on Monday, Nov. 4, 2019, her family told 2News. (Photo: KUTV) Dawna Ray Langford, 43, and two of her nine children were also killed in the attack, Langford wrote. One of them was initially unaccounted for, but was found late Monday. Dawna Langford and two of her nine children were slain in Mexico on Monday, Nov. 4, 2019, her family told 2News. (Photo: KUTV) The third woman who died, Langford stated, was Christina Marie Langford, who was 31 years old. She had one baby with her: Faith Marie Johnson. Relatives say the baby was found alive after she was thrown on the ground. Christina Langford was slain in Mexico on Monday, Nov. 4, 2019, her family told 2News. Her baby survived. (Photo: KUTV) 2News spoke with Dawna’s nephew Monday night. His name is Taylor Langford, and he lives in Herriman. He says the whole family is devastated and spent most of Monday feeling completely helpless as this story unfolded. "They killed all three women, and seven of the children have been confirmed dead," Langford said. He told us the children who survived were in the process of being brought to the U.S. border for medical treatment. Langford also says the family has had interactions previously with cartels, but the women and children were clearly not the intended targets here. -
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No matter the electrical provider, if you are not allowed to cut the underbrush away from underneath the lines, you will have a fire start when the high winds knock them down..... However - Goats saved the Reagan Library? Yep - Humans can't clear brush, but bring in some goats and turn em loose....... I wonder how much impact the goat farts had on the environment...... https://www.dailywire.com/news/a-herd-of-goats-saved-the-reagan-presidential-library-from-a-raging-wildfire/?fbclid=IwAR1WaZ8w4O2epwvbAyv3PyGPIJ1TCC4pJ3gq1QV17vM9LQwyyCLxuy1BOVc That’s right: a herd of goats may have helped save the Reagan Presidential Library. CNN reports that a “herd of as many as 500 goats” was given the run of a hillside, conveniently located between the fire and the Library, earlier this year. The goats ate all of the available vegetation in their grazing zone, creating a natural firebreak, and depriving the fast-moving Simi Valley wildfire of fuel. The Library, with the help of the Ventura county fire department, hired the goats from a company called 805 Goats, the Guardian reports. The animals munched through around 15 acres, creating a perimeter to protect the Library from wildfires. 805 Goats provides its services to a number of Los Angeles-era clients, including celebrities, and counts Selena Gomez among its satisfied customers. The firm charges $1000 per acre for its goats’ services. “We actually worked with the Ventura county fire department in May and they bring out hundreds of goats to our property,” Melissa Giller, Reagan Presidential Library spokeswoman, told a local news outlet. “The goats eat all of the brush around the entire property, creating a fire perimeter.” “One of the firefighters mentioned that they do believe the goats’ fire line helped them fight this fire,” she added. “They just proved today how useful they really are.” Although the goats provided an assist, of course, more than 700 firefighters were called in to contain the Easy Fire located to the north and west of Los Angeles, California, which burned nearly 2,000 acres on Wednesday and threatned 6,500 structures before it was partially contained. Fire crews on the ground were aided by “non-stop water drops” and a defensive fire line. “It’s a whole lot of fire trucks, a whole lot of heroes out here protecting President Reagan’s library,” John Heubusch, the library’s executive director told a local news outlet affiliated with CNN. “They’re doing a heroic job.” Reagan Library staff reported that Wednesday’s fire, which forced all but a skeleton crew of curators and administrators to evacuate to safer areas, was the closest the library has ever come to being consumed. “The flames are licking right up the hills, right up to the parking lot,” the Library’s executive director said. “I think the parking lot will save the library.” It is not known whether the goats who created the fire line emerged from the fire unscathed. The area surrounding the library is mostly farms and horse ranches and hundreds of head of livestock were evacuated along with the humans. The Easy Fire is only one of several fires raging through south and central California, forcing the evacuation of thousands of people and leaving millions without power. On Thursday, several fire departments reported, for the first time, that they were gaining the upper hand on blazes that have been burning since last week.
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The New Normal, round 2
swordfish replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Not necessarily "new normal" since SNL hasn't been funny for quite a while, but.......SF did enjoy the irony in this one.......While the secret raid was ongoing......🤣 https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2019/10/26/saturday-night-live-president-trump-alec-baldwin-new-mexico-rally/2477170001/ -
https://medium.com/navigating-life/what-the-fuck-just-happened-in-mexico-b98eff2b340c On Thursday afternoon, October 17, one of the biggest stories in the ongoing saga of the Mexican Drug War occurred. That day in the city of Culiacan in Sinaloa, police and soldiers from the Mexican government arrested Chapo “El Chapo” Guzman’s son, Ovidio Guzman. And what happened next might as well have come right out of a movie. Ovidio Guzman is not only El Chapo’s son, but a high-level trafficker in the Sinaloa Cartel who was indicted by the US Justice Department in February on drug trafficking charges. When the cartel found out El Chapo’s son had been arrested and taken, they decided to act. The cartel started fighting and causing mayhem all over the city to recapture Chapo’s son from the government. It looked like something you’d expect to see happening in Syria, not a Mexican city. On Thursday in the Sinaloan city of Culiacan, the cartel gunmen were everywhere. At one point in the chaos and confusion, cartel members even went into a prison, freed around 50 inmates, armed some of them, and recruited them to help them fight the government. Civilians in the area were forced to stay inside and hide or find some sort of refuge. Some weren’t even able to get home and had to hunker down in stores and restaurants as the city escalated into a total warzone. There were videos and transcripts of cartel members radioing the government forces and demanding them to give up El Chapo’s son or their families would be murdered. And there were reports that members of the military had their family members taken hostage. Eventually, the government forces decided to release Ovidio in order to avoid more bloodshed. When it was officially announced my jaw dropped. I was in utter disbelief. The next morning, President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador of Mexico gave a statement justifying the decision of Mexican security forces to release El Chapo’s son under pressure from the cartel. There you have it straight from the mouth of the highest-ranking official in Mexico. The cartel just waged all-out war against the government. And they won. These narcos literally shut down an entire city of 800,000 people and forced the government to surrender to them. This is history unfolding in Mexico. It’s completely unprecedented and it feels like here in America, no one’s even talking about it! That just underneath our border, an entire city was at the mercy of drug traffickers and even the President of the country had to admit the best option was to capitulate to them. I can only speculate on some reasons that the American mainstream media isn’t giving this story the attention it deserves but I do have a few guesses: The mainstream media in the United States doesn’t want to spread any stories about Mexico that would validate Trump’s statements on border security or criminality/lawlessness in Mexico. The story brings too much attention to the War on Drugs, which has been for all intents and purposes, an utter and complete failure. Possible fear of the organization and discipline that was displayed by the cartel? Maybe they think the cartel’s willingness to arm themselves and mobilize against state authority could give people ideas. Whatever the reason, I have to wonder. Why isn’t the 24/7 news cycle that loves to have stories of conflict, war, and struggle, jumping on this story? This is one of the worst security crises Mexico has seen in years. This situation in #Culiacan is one of the biggest stories from the Mexican drug war to ever develop. No one can deny the power of the cartel at this point The cartel has power and influence at every level of the Mexican government, military, and police. It seems they just don’t flaunt it unless necessary. What this disaster in Culiacan just did was expose to the outside world who truly runs Mexico. Even from the perception of Mexican citizens this level of brazenness and boldness by the cartels is unprecedented. This is going to cause a lot of people to start talking and asking questions. President Lopez Obrador is going to have to address this new reality in Mexico. While some people may agree with backing down to the cartel in order to avoid violence, many people also consider the move to be cowardly and shameful. For the cartel to be able to act with such impunity and demonstrate such an impressive projection of force is truly unsettling. But I’m not sure what the alternative is. It’s crazy to think that these criminal organizations have become so vastly influential that trying to take them on directly would potentially mean civil war. This entire situation in Mexico has become a whole other animal. Removing the drug traffickers forcibly would mean all-out warfare against the cartels, unimaginable levels of counter-intelligence operations, extensive surveillance & undercover work, and a comprehensive purging of large portions of the Mexican government, from the politicians to the military, to all levels of law enforcement. In other words, it would take a miracle. The cartels are so powerful, so dominant, and so embedded in the infrastructure of Mexican society that I’m not sure if forcibly removing them is even an option at this point. What this means moving forward There’s no denying that what we’ve just witnessed in Mexico is historic. It’s an unprecedented development and evolution in this ongoing Mexican drug war. It’s completely blurring the lines between organized crime and outright insurgency. I think this is something new that we haven’t seen before where you have a criminal organization that has grown this powerful. Narcos in Mexico have completely shattered the pretense of a government monopoly on violence. This could have huge repercussions and implications on Mexican domestic and foreign policy. International relations might very well be affected because one can make the argument that the official government of Mexico isn’t truly in power. This also calls into question so many things about the War on Drugs and Mexico’s relationship with the United States. With so much money and guns moving south into Mexico and so many drugs moving north into America, this has got to spark a serious conversation. I‘m not sure what this really means for Mexico and its government moving forward. The government itself showed a complete failure in maintaining law and order. It showed that they’ll negotiate with terrorists. It showed that the government can be defeated with violence and it might set a precedent for how Mexican drug traffickers respond to future arrests of high-level targets. This is a dark and challenging time for the people of Mexico and this is a complex and nuanced situation. I don’t have any answers or solutions but I‘ll be continuing to watch how things develop and I hope the people of Mexico can find peace and prosperity. Please share this article if you found it informative so more people can find out about what’s going on and comment below with your thoughts on the situation. Yet, we don't need a secure border?
