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https://apnews.com/0a2b5a89587e44568481c133356f262c NEW YORK (AP) — Some of the most influential forces in Democratic politics revolted Monday against former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz’s prospective presidential bid, insisting that an independent run would unintentionally help President Donald Trump win another four years in office. The critics included the Democratic chairman of Schultz’s home state, another billionaire businessman who long flirted with an independent run of his own, former President Barack Obama’s chief strategist, and the most powerful super PAC in Democratic politics. “If Schultz entered the race as an independent, we would consider him a target. ... We would do everything we can to ensure that his candidacy is unsuccessful,” said Patrick McHugh, executive director of Priorities USA, which spent nearly $200 million in the 2016 presidential contest. Specifically, he seized on Schultz’s apparent willingness to cut entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security to narrow the federal deficit. “The bottom line,” McHugh said, “is that I don’t think Americans are looking for another selfish billionaire to enter the race.” The intense pushback in the early days of the 2020 campaign reflects the passion Democrats are bringing to the race to deny Trump a second term. Rank-and-file voters and party officials alike are anxious about any hurdle that would prevent them from seizing on Trump’s unpopularity. While no independent has won the presidency since George Washington, Democrats fear that Schultz would almost certainly split their vote and give Trump an easier path to re-election. Yet Democrats concede that they had few tools to dissuade Schultz from launching an independent campaign — as he told CBS’ “60 Minutes” on Sunday he was considering — though many were skeptical that he would actually follow through. Schultz felt the passion of the anti-Trump resistance moments after he took the stage Monday evening in New York City to promote his new book. “Don’t help elect Trump, you egotistical billionaire!” a protester shouted before being ejected by security. In an interview with The Associated Press after the appearance, he acknowledged that his prospective run might be “threatening” to some Democrats, but said, “my heart’s in the right place.” Wow - The backlash from the left is swift on this one.....Will there be anyone allowed by the left to run as an independent in 2020? If the dems are successful with their "boycott Starbucks" march, Starbucks may have to close......
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New Donald Trump thread
swordfish replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Did anyone listen to the speech in the Rose Garden? The President opened the Government for 3 weeks. He literally said you have 3 weeks to fund the wall. If not - it's an emergency. Pelosi already said she wouldn't negotiate until the shutdown was over......It's over, workers are being paid, the SOTU will take place. If in 3 weeks, there is no resolution, this President will finish this in his way. He and every President since Reagan has promised a solution, he is determined to deliver a real fix. I would bet if the House and Senate cannot come up with something, the DACA olive branch he was dangling will disappear. -
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/84-year-old-ex-san-francisco-mayor-so-what-if-i-dated-kamala-harris The 84-year-old former Mayor of San Francisco also claimed a role in boosting Harris’ political career in a piece published in the San Francisco Chronicle over the weekend titled, “Sure, I dated Kamala Harris. So what?” “Yes, we dated,” Brown wrote in the piece. “Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker. And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco.” Brown engaged in an extramarital affair with Harris when she was a 30-year-old prosecutor and he was in his 60s and serving as speaker of the California Assembly. In 2003, the San Francisco Weekly reported that Brown had appointed Harris to two highly paid patronage positions in California’s state government and also appointed her to the California Medical Assistance Commission, where she attended two meetings a month for a $150,000 salary, in inflation-adjusted terms. After their relationship ended, Brown continued to boost Harris’ career by supporting her run for district attorney and later clearing the field for Harris to become a U.S. senator when he called on former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa to stay out of the Senate race. Harris, 54, launched her 2020 Democratic bid for president last week and is one of the more high-profile lawmakers to join the race, which is expected to be crowded. Brown said in his piece that he helped multiple lawmakers' careers, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Gov. Gavin Newsom; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; among others. “The difference is that Harris is the only one who, after I helped her, sent word that I would be indicted if I 'so much as jaywalked' while she was D.A.,” Brown wrote. “That’s politics for ya.” OMG - I could understand this guy sleeping with Harris, he should be proud of that, but I am having a hard time with the other 2 listed, hoping for a different story there...... Interesting - Harris is leading in the early polls, so it looks like the mud has started slinging on the Dem side.......
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New Donald Trump thread
swordfish replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
21 days. Congress and the senate will have to have a plausible border protection solution passed or (a) shutdown, (b) emergency declaration. Watch and see which one happens. -
Actually this entire line of "was he or wasn't he" started because foxbat challenged when I posted a humorous (IMHO) meme showing Blumenthal and Phillips in a "So there we were in Vietnam" meme. And I took the bait. FTR - I still chuckle at it. Bottomline - This proud Native American who served in the military, and may or may not be a Vietnam Vet shouldn't be the center of this discussion. These people should be in this case yet are being ignored......
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Why is there not a greater focus on the Black Hebrew Israelites who were mocking Mr. Phillips and the Catholic kid? https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2019/01/22/who-are-black-israelites-center-viral-standoff-lincoln-memorial/?utm_term=.de1eb697cecd In the initial media churn, they were nearly missed. But a small band of Hebrew Israelites, members of a historic but little-known American religious movement, may actually be at the center of a roiling controversy that has gripped the nation in recent days. It began with a now-viral video clip, filmed Friday at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, in which high school students from a Catholic school in Kentucky appeared to be in a faceoff with a Native American elder, who was beating on a drum. The boys, some wearing red hats with President Trump’s 2016 campaign slogan, appeared in the clip to be mocking a man, named Nathan Phillips. The clip was widely understood as being centrally about the dangers of Trumpism, and the teens were condemned. But a longer video soon bubbled to the surface, widening the lens. It showed how a group of half a dozen Hebrew Israelites had, in fact, been goading and preaching at both the Native Americans and high schoolers, using profanity and highly provocative language, for nearly an hour. Phillips later told journalists that he was seeking to defuse tensions between the Israelite group and the high school students by stepping in between them. Kinda sounds like they started this whole thing. The Catholics (white kids) and Mr. Phillips (Native American Vietnam ERA vet) were just sucked in......
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Not "implying" anything - You define "Vietnam Vet".....In your terms......And see if Mr. Phillips qualifies.....According to the Marine Corps, he does not...... https://www.wnd.com/2019/01/nathan-phillips-not-vietnam-vet-discharge-papers-show/ The DD-214 indicates Phillips was stationed stateside in the Marine Corps Reserves as a refrigeration mechanic and was cited for being AWOL three times. After four years of service, he was discharged as a private. In recent interviews, Phillips has not explicitly stated he served in Vietnam, calling himself a veteran of “Vietnam times” or “Vietnam days.” But he has not corrected widespread reporting identifying him as a “Vietnam veteran.” Phillips told the Democratic Underground regarding his military service: “I’m what they call a ‘recon ranger.’ That was my role.” In an interview a decade ago, he apparently indicated he had been deployed overseas, contrary to his DD-214. A 2008 Indian Country Today article, Shipley pointed out, reported Phillips “described coming back to the U.S. as a veteran of the Vietnam era.” “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me,” he said. https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/31284-former-seal-drum-pounding-indian-not-a-vietnam-veteran-not-a-recon-ranger https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/01/23/tribal-elder-in-viral-standoff-video-was-not-a-vietnam-veteran-military-records-show/ He served stateside May, 1972 - May, 1976 first as an infantryman (for 2 days) then was as a refrigeration mechanic....Was discharged as a Private with a few AWOL citations. A private after 4 years, and never left the country......Almost seems like "stolen valor".....
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So far: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2019/jan/17/2020-election-candidates-list-democrats-primaries-trump-bernie-sanders-joe-biden-elizabeth-warren-kamala-harris-beto-o-rourke-running Elizabeth Warren - (Fauxcahontas) Everybody knows her by now....... Richard Ojeda - West Virginia - He believes the Democratic party has forsaken its working-class roots by catering to special interests and corporate donors. John Delaney - Maryland - The multimillionaire banking entrepreneur wants to build a big-tent party that appeals to independents and moderate Republicans. Andrew Yang - His central plank is a plan to give every American adult a salary of $1,000 per month paid for by a tax on companies that benefit the most from automation. Julian Castro - Former HUD guy, grandson of an immigrant...... Tulsi Gabbard - The Hawaii congresswoman is an Iraq war veteran who has vowed to run a campaign focused on issues of “war and peace”. Kirsten Gillibrand - New York Senator, Female Activist Kamala Harris - California Senator and Certified Trump hater. And now (I told you so) Pete Buttigieg - Indiana Mayor from South Bend. Openly gay Rhodes Scholar, served in the Navy Reserve - Did a tour in Afghanistan. Championed roundabouts all over in South Bend and St. Joe County..... https://www.apnews.com/b6a09c1f2a0646a7b68b3091873279a5 When all is said and done (IMHO) - the mayor from South Bend, Indiana just wants a seat at the democrat's table.
