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17 minutes ago, temptation said:
Seems ambitious but as mentioned above, I am far from an NFL guy.
I thought starting all 17 regular season games and a playoff berth are now the normally expected goals of a first round QB, especially the #1 pick.
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31 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:
Then why even respond?
Because I like you And the Seymour Owls is a cool mascot name.
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4 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:
You don’t follow along at all do you?
I try not to follow you, no.
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What would constitute a successful rookie season for young Mr. Williams in the NFL? For me it would to start every game and the Bears make the playoffs. If one of those doesn't happen he will be a failure. With all the hype I've read such an outcome is certainly possible.
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2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Also, I shall note, if this conversation was being had with Temp, Bash, Bob, and myself with those tasty Pepsi's that can be found coming out of a tasty tap then you would find that the conversation would be your typical sport chat amongst pals
Pepsi. Yuck.
Coca-Cola or not at all.
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1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:
So Muda, question cannot be answered by me, because from your home in the county/city/town you reside could be enough, for you, but for your neighbor it may not just like it may not be enough for another public school district elsewhere
I generally agree. My property taxes increased when CSF spent $30 million several years ago to renovate the high school. I voted against the referendum, of course. It was too expensive IMHO.
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1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said:
Is it the reading or the comprehension that’s so difficult for you? No I do NOT go watch the Owls play every Friday night.
Why not? You don't want to be true to your school?
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1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:
@Muda69 YOU HAVE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THIS:
80 team super league: however 10 team rotated PROMOTION/REGULATED!!! right up your alley
It is a good start. Although I don't like the "permanent class" thing. Be promoted or relegated based on the success or failure of your program, not because you just happen to be in some power-5 conference.
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13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:
A move away from property taxes
Since the 1970s, Indiana has relied less on local property taxes to fund schools than neighboring states, with the state funding a larger share through sales and income taxes than many states that base their systems primarily on local property taxes.
Thank you for the information. I will correct my statement to read: "Are my local property, sales, and income taxes not enough to properly fund the local government schools, to support it's primary mission?"
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15 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:
I can drive within an hour of my house on any given Friday night
Oh, ok.
15 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:Neither are within an hour of my house. And to extrapolate out further, I’m sure there’s quality Football being played within an hour of your house as well.
Thank you for those observations. So you don't go watch the Owls play every Friday night?
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Taxpayers Refuse To Pay New Stadium Expenses for Billionaire Sports Owners: https://reason.com/2024/04/03/taxpayers-refuse-to-pay-new-stadium-expenses-for-billionaire-sports-owners/
QuoteTaxpayers in Jackson County, Missouri, voted on Tuesday to discard a sales tax to finance stadium renovations for the Kansas City Chiefs and the construction of a new stadium for the Kansas City Royals.
Even in the face of threats by owners to leave the city if the initiative failed, voters rejected the dodgy campaign to keep the 3/8-cent sales tax, which currently goes toward maintaining the Truman Sports Complex and was slated to raise around $2 billion worth of public funds over 40 years.
The teams' efforts essentially sought to exploit fan culture in service of saving private funds. Whether any tax was needed is doubtful when considering the owner of the Chiefs, the Hunt family, is worth billions, as well as the fact that the Royals' current stadium was recently deemed to be in satisfactory condition. KC Tenants, a major tenant union that rallied against the sales tax, said that the tax would have been "among the largest transfers of public money to private corporations in our region's history."
In the past, pleas for tax support in Jackson County have worked, perhaps because they were also backed by similar threats about the sports giants leaving town. So this result is a welcome surprise. That's especially true in the context of the national debate around this issue, where taxpayers have subsidized the Tennessee Titans, the Minnesota Vikings, the Atlanta Braves, the Tampa Bay Rays, and the Buffalo Bills, and these are just in the last two years. The list goes on.
There is a litany of reasons why voters may have rejected the proposal. The Royals' new stadium was slated to be built in the Crossroads district—a controversial pick that would have required demolishing several small businesses.
It's still a possibility that the Chiefs and Royals stay. "Hopefully everyone can take a deep breath, put all of the negative stuff behind us," said Jackson County Executive Frank White Jr., "and then come back to the table and work out a deal that's really affable for all parties involved."
But even if the county taxpayers end up voting in favor of an updated proposal, it doesn't change the questionable ethics of using fan support as a tool to pay for private expenses while the profits remain nonpublic. The Kansas City teams would do well to consider the Green Bay Packers' approach, which asks fans to voluntarily chip in—rather than trying the same taxpayer-funded strategy in a different locale.
A win for the taxpayers for once.
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40 minutes ago, gonzoron said:
He probably did in the OOB forum and only 3 people would have seen it.
I don't believe I did. But you go on believing that if it makes you feel morally superior.
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1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said:
Your Geography teacher failed you, or perhaps it was your English teacher.
They did? I could have sworn Clinton Central and Frankfort high schools are only 6-7 miles apart.
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1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said:
I’ve long stated, if you’re a sports fan, I can drive within an hour of my house on any given Friday night and see a quality athletic event for 5-6-7 bucks whatever it costs to get in. You can not beat that entertainment value anywhere.
You obviously haven't seen the last few Clinton Central - Frankfort matchups.
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29 minutes ago, BTF said:
Somehow it's ok to support the $3,000,000 jumbotron two hours away, but a $600,000 turf field in your own backyard is unjustified.
I don't recall a $3,000,00 jumbotron at a college/university being paid for with taxpayer funds. Are my local property taxes not enough to properly fund the local government schools, to support it's primary mission?
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53 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:
He's a troll. There is nothing else to this. In every one of these threads, he spouts his crap, has no substance to his argument, and does it condescendingly. Unfortunately, the mods have continued to allow him to post here.
You are wrong, and you know it. I have posted substantive arguments to my position in the past, on this particular forum thread and others. It is not my fault if you are too lazy or afraid to look them up and read them.
I wonder who is really the one trolling here?
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22 minutes ago, Cloudy14 said:
Not speaking for @BTF, but I think you are oversimplifying his comment.
Much as the dogpiling in this thread is oversimplifying my arguments against artificial turf.
24 minutes ago, Cloudy14 said:I believe BTF is implying that taxes at a local level impact you at a much more personal level than federal taxes.
Agreed. Government is generally more effective the more local it is. And it can be just and wasteful and corrupt as on the state or federal level.
25 minutes ago, Cloudy14 said:I think most can agree that taxes are a waste of money, but I would rather pay more money to local taxes than federal taxes.
Taxes are legalized theft against the individual. https://mises.org/mises-wire/yes-taxation-theft
28 minutes ago, Cloudy14 said:Maybe you should start your own thread "TURF SUCKS, SOD RULES"
Nah, this thread and other will do just fine, thank you.
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16 minutes ago, Daniel_Bragg said:
Is this what your hatred is really about? Because you didn't get to play on it, you feel kids today shouldn't?
No, that not is what my disagreement concerning turf fields is about. Again, please search my previous posts in this thread and others if you want to read my arguments against turf fields at the K-12 level.
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30 minutes ago, BTF said:
I wouldn't call improving your local high school facilities a "mismanagement of funds." In short, maybe if you received more of a tax cut at the federal end, you'd be less concerned at the local end.
So you believe in the "government high school as the Taj Mahal" concept. Got it.
And nice try at obfuscating the local issue with federal government immigration and foreign policy. I would be happy to talk to you about those federal policy issues, but please start a thread in the OOB forum.
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Parents Investigated for Letting 7-Year-Old Get a Cookie From the Store
https://reason.com/2024/04/02/beth-widner-atlanta-georgia-kids-cps-parenting/
QuoteBeth Widner is a mother who lives in Canton, a middle-class suburb of Atlanta, Georgia. She has four kids, whom she homeschools while her husband, Glenn, telecommutes.
In August of 2018, the Widner kids—then ages 13, 11, nine, and seven—were members of a swim team at their local YMCA, which was about two blocks from their house. One day, after swim practice, the 7-year-old, Jackson, lagged behind while the rest of his siblings walked home, and stopped by the grocery for a free cookie.
A store employee thought it was so unusual to see an unaccompanied 7-year-old that a store employee called 911. Then, instead of letting him leave, the employee told Jackson he had to wait for the police to arrive.
This became part of a pattern; indeed, Jackson's semi-independence attracted police attention on no fewer than three occasions, leading to two investigations by Child Protective Services (CPS).
Widner recently had the opportunity to share these experiences with the governor's office. (The meeting was arranged by the Reason Foundation, which publishes Reason, and Let Grow, the non-profit at which both of us work.) She hoped that her story would inspire support for a "Reasonable Childhood Independence" law in the state. Such laws establish that neglect occurs when parents put kids in obvious, serious danger, not anytime they let their kids out of sight.
We hope to see a law like that passed in Georgia sometime soon. Eight other states have already jumped on the bandwagon, and this year Michigan, Missouri, and New Hampshire will vote on similar bills.
When Jackson refused to tell the authorities where he lived—having been taught not to give such information to strangers—the police deduced he had been swimming and went to the YMCA to learn more. The cops were very cross with Jackson and informed him that being out and about without his parents was a serious infraction. He responded that he would promptly go home "if you would just leave me alone," his mother recalled later.
After the police finally brought Jackson home, they informed his father, Glenn, that it wasn't safe to let a child his age wander around outside.
"You just can't raise kids like that anymore—it isn't safe," said the cops.
Glenn begged to differ, reciting statistics that kids today face no greater risk from stranger danger than previous generations. Nevertheless, the police summoned child protective services.
A caseworker from Georgia's Division of Family and Child Services arrived a few hours later. She told the family, assembled together, that the police report stated that Jackson had been unattended from 8:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m. The Widners set the record straight—swim practice had ended by 10:45 a.m., and everyone had been back at home well before lunch—and the caseworkers closed the investigation. She even said that her own kids could learn a bit more independence from the Widners, Beth recalled.
But that was not the end of things. Later that year, for Christmas, Jackson received a new bike. On January 2, just before lunch, he asked his mom if he could ride it and off he went. An older woman in the park stopped Jackson, telling him he was too young to ride his bike alone. According to Jackson, he took a few more circles around the park and then ducked into the grocery for—you guessed it—a free cookie.
Soon thereafter, Beth got a call from Jackson, using the new watch phone his parents had gotten him after the August incident. He said the police wanted to speak to her. Once again, cops had detained Jackson for being outside unsupervised.
Beth got to the grocery parking lot within a couple of minutes. She found Jackson seated like a suspect in the backseat of a cruiser. The complaining witness watched as the police let Beth take her son home. Beth wasn't told what to expect further, and she didn't hear from child services. But she later learned that child services had been informed about Jackson's flagrant act of unaccompanied bike riding.
On January 18, Jackson's unabated taste for free cookies turned into a full-blown investigation. While his parents had warned him that he should not indulge his sweet tooth (or independence) anymore, he went to the grocery store after a bike ride once again. As in August, a store employee called the police. The employee fed him chicken and fries—it was lunch time—to stall him until the cops arrived. The police then escorted Jackson home, bike and all. Glenn came to the door to hear what the cops had to say about his son, the cookie recidivist.
One of the police officers accused Glenn of "breaking the law" by letting Jackson go out alone. "What law is that?" Glenn inquired. The officer replied, "You can Google it." The most senior officer accused him of neglect and "contributing to delinquency of the minor," and told him not only could he be arrested, but he might face felony charges and spend time in jail.
A CPS caseworker showed up two hours later. Unlike the first one, who had complimented the family, this one accused the family of having "a problem with child supervision." When Beth and Glenn asked what specific law they had broken, she said she didn't have it written down.
The caseworker proceeded to question all four children at the kitchen table, then notified the Widners that they would be subject to a "parenting plan" requiring them to supervise the children at all times. The Widners told her that they would not be following the plan. Upon hearing this probably unusual response, the caseworker warned the Widners that she would talk to her supervisor.
After she left, the Widners never heard another word from her, although a few weeks later, two unidentified caseworkers stopped by the house asking to speak to Glenn. He wasn't home and they left.
The Widners realized their freedom to raise their kids as they saw fit was in danger. Fearful that they could land on Georgia's child abuse and neglect registry, Beth and Glenn decided to move the family outside city limits. Jackson, now 12, no longer worries about asking for a free cookie at the store.
But a state law that definitively puts the matter to rest—by stating unequivocally that the police should not harass parents who let their kids exercise some basic independence—could offer further protection.
Police and CPS harassment of a family, plain and simple.
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19 minutes ago, BTF said:
Very rarely will I encourage someone to discontinue their fight, but this fight really isn't going anywhere. Best to move on. I'm all in for top notch high school facilities.
The fight isn't won until 100% of government high schools in the state of Indiana have splurged on extravagant artificial turf fields.
At what cost "top notch" high school facilities?
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ISU is going to the NIT championship game on Thursday and will play Seton Hall. Then by the weekend they will have lost their coach, and probably four of their starting rotation, to St. Louis. A bittersweet time
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Nobody was asking Josh Schertz after this game about the Saint Louis Billikens. No idea what a Billiken is, but I’m calling it an elephant — you know, the one nobody’s talking about.
Schertz or his agent — a distinction that matters more to Schertz and his agent than it should to you and me — has been in talks with Saint Louis about its coaching vacancy since shortly after Indiana State’s loss to Drake in the Missouri Valley Conference tournament March 10. That was almost a month ago, and I'm told Schertz has indicated to Saint Louis he’s coming. It’s an open secret in the Sycamores’ locker room that four of their five starters would most likely follow him to Saint Louis. The one player not going? Julian Larry.
Things could change. Things do change.
Just five weeks ago Indiana State was America’s favorite college basketball ferocious darling, a team everybody wanted to find on Google — other Avila nicknames: Milk Chamberlain, Steph Blurry — but nobody wanted to see in the NCAA tournament. The NCAA tourney selection committee took care of that, ignoring the Sycamores and ruining the championship chances of the other 31 teams in the NIT.
Now Indiana State is just the strangest story ever, because the only thing the Sycamores are likely to lose during this memorable run is their coach.
After his news conference I followed Schertz into the hall to ask him privately about Saint Louis, and don’t even think about getting mad at me for that. You want to get mad? Get mad at the coach who’s halfway out the door — not the reporter who asked him about it. My advice: Don’t get mad at anyone. Saint Louis would more than quadruple Schertz’s salary, from less than $500,000 to $2 million or more, and how can you get mad at him for that? Meantime, he hasn’t left yet, didn’t abandon his team. He’s still coaching the Sycamores, and deflecting questions about Saint Louis.
Here’s what he told me late Tuesday night.
“I never, ever talk about a job other than the one I have,” he said, “but I know that’s on everybody’s mind. The reality is, I’m going to take a day when the season’s over, make a decision, and everybody we’ve communicated with knows that’s kind of the plan of it. I know everybody’s speculating, but at the end of the day we’ll finish the season and obviously play to Thursday — which I’m looking forward to — and then take a day. I don’t want to make an emotional decision. I’m going to take a day and lock in on what I want to do and then decide what’s best.”
Coaches everywhere, print that out. Because that’s how you handle a situation as delicate as this. Schertz made no promises and told no lies, and said nothing to alienate either school.
Impressive, really, but this guy’s a smart cookie. Schertz is reinventing some things, like the way he sends out his players in two waves for pregame warmups. First on the court are his deep reserves, the guys who don’t figure to play much if at all, while his core of six guards — er, five guards and point-center Larry Nerd — are stretching in the locker room. After 20 minutes, the groups switch. Schertz’s reasoning? He wants his main rotation players to get up every shot they want, as close to tipoff as possible.
After the game Schertz was asked about his team's playing style.
“We’ve got really, really talented guys who are super-skilled, incredibly unselfish and super smart,” Schertz said, and then casually quoted Leonardo da Vinci without being an arrogant oaf about it. Nope, he just concluded that train of thought by saying: “Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.”
You can see why Saint Louis wants to get him, why Indiana State wants to keep him, and why Terre Haute is following this team and this coach to its final destination. And when this night ended, same as it began during pregame introductions, the biggest cheers at Hinkle Fieldhouse — Terre Haute Northeast, I’m calling it — were for the coach who might just win an NIT on Thursday and leave for Saint Louis on Friday.
Sad, but understandable.
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5 hours ago, BTF said:
You're fighting a losing battle. That's not an opinion. Might want to focus your energy elsewhere.
Thank you for your sage advice, but I choose to continue the fight.
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Rebuilt from 'ground zero,' Indiana State basketball is winning with nation's top offense
in College Hoops
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https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/04/05/indiana-state-josh-schertz-to-be-new-saint-louis-basketball-coach-nit-run-mvc-champs/73184760007/
From the website headline:
So in the eyes of the Indy Star ISU is a high school. Their pitiful editors/proofreaders (if they even have them anymore) are more upsetting than Mr. Schertz leaving, that has been pretty much a given since the end of the regular season.