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    2021 State Championship Games

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    53 minutes ago, DACNUT said:

    Marshall is probably the fastest ball carrier in the Region with the ball in his hand, another great pickup for the Pirates. As I mentioned before, I will be interested to see how he is used against Westfield if they play. If he stayed at Calumet, they would have easily won the sectional again. 

    Kid’s got a surprising amount of power and tackle breaking ability as well for his frame. I know he played RB at Calumet, but Merrillville’s been moving him around out wide, in the slot, and in the backfield. He’s definitely been a huge addition to their offense. 

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    13 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

    Sure, they have the ability to throw the ball when/if needed, but you'll never see CG come out and throw the ball 25-30 times unless it's absolutely out of necessity. That's not who they are and not how they game plan. They are a power running team who has a D1 QB capable of pushing the ball down field when necessary. When your top 3 rushers all average over 5 yards a carry, you don't need to throw the football or have a balanced offensive attack, it's why Center Grove has run the ball on more than 70% of their offensive plays this year. 

    CG Passing YPG: 140.1

    CG Rushing YPG: 232.7

    Yes, clearly run-first. But I would say that is pretty balanced, especially considering almost all of their games have been blowouts where they were certainly running the ball to kill the clock. 

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    5 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said:

    I personally lean this way too…but if you have 4 very athletic LBs does it matter?   Is it really just more about how the 4th pass rusher does? Or if that edge rusher can make the right decisions and back off into a zone instead of pressuring when they need to? 
     

    tbh if I had it my way….4-4 stack but im sure there is a reason many teams don’t run this….probably because it’s 8 in the box 

    Definitely the pass rush is the first reason I like the 4-3 a little better. The 3-4 OLB is practicing drops and offer responsibilities whereas the 4-3 DE is practicing his rush a lot more. The 3-4 definitely gives you more options with blitz combos and has the advantage of 2-gapping, slanting, etc and odd fronts generally being harder for kids to block, both mentally and physically. The 4-3 is arguably more “vanilla” but there’s lots of ways to spice it up a bit. Personally if you’ve got the horses I say 4-3 but again it comes down to personnel. If you’ve got kids who can operate in space as those 3-4 OLBs you should be using that. 

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    1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

    Probably a lot of them, but I would not call Center Grove a balanced offensive team. They are a run first team who can throw the ball when needed. Jackson has thrown the ball 126 times in 9 games. That isn't a lot. 

    I mean passing 14 times a game when you’ve won each game by an average of 3TDs+ and are generally only playing half the game is kind of a lot for hs. But more importantly they have the ability to be balanced. That’s what I’m talking about. If their backs were ever to the wall and they needed to pass, they could count on Jackson and those receivers. And the ability to pass also let’s them take advantage of any matchups they like in the secondary. This is what I mean when I say they have balance. Those are two attributes championship teams have. They’re just so good they haven’t really needed to show those attributes much this year lol. 

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    Just now, Footballking16 said:

    Wouldn't say Center Grove is balanced. 335 of their 470 offensive plays (assuming MaxPreps is accurate) have been running plays. Guessing if Jackson wasn't a D1 QB capable of pushing the ball downfield that number would be greater. If Center Grove didn't attempt a forward pass for the rest of the year they'd still win every game by 3+ TDs. Center Grove passes out of luxury, not because they have too. 

    How many of those runs have been after the game is out of reach and they’re just trying to eat the clock? 

    Just now, DumfriesYMCA said:

    What I wanna know 

     

    which is better 

     

    3-4 or 4-3 defense? Lots of variance to these but assuming you have all the talent you could ever dream of to run either…which one does better? 

    4-3 myself, just hard to get 4 studs on that d-line. Prolly why most hs teams run the 3-4

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    6 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

    Warren did it 4 straight years running the Wing T in the mid 2000s and Center Grove today runs it a hell of a lot more than they throw. 

    15 years ago… and CG has a D1 QB and good receivers, their most explosive plays in the state game last year were all passes. Again, not saying you gotta pass every down… balance is key 

    Tournament Upsets/Darkhorses

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    6A: Hamilton SE- they’re gonna get  Westfield again, and it’s hard to beat the same team twice in the same year. Can the Royals take out the Rocks and shake up 6A north?

    Carroll - they’ve got a very good quarterback and when you have one of those you can steal some games. They’ve got a hard road with Homestead and then Warsaw but if they can get by those teams I think a regional matchup with Westfield/Hamilton SE will be interesting. 

    5A: Harrison - Could they shock Zionsville? They get two weeks to prepare for the Eagles while Zionsville only gets a week to get ready for the triple option. I think that is definitely a boon for the Raiders’ chances of winning. Game was relatively close last year and I think Zionsville is a little worse and Harrison is a little better. Should be a good one. 

    Michigan City - Getting healthy at the right time and gaining momentum stringing together some wins after a tough 3 game losing streak. Very good coaching staff with experience coaching in big games. Tough road ahead but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this team shocked the state and made a run all the way down to LOS. 

    4A: Lowell - huge win over Andrean gives them a lot of momentum heading into the postseason. They’re gonna get Hobart again in the sectional championship in what should be a slugfest. The team who wins that game very easily could be representing 4A north down at LOS. 

    3A: Hanover Central - Should cruise to win their first sectional to set up a likely matchup with Marian. Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see the Wildcats get to the semi state. This is a solid football team. 

    2A: LCC- being in the southern half of the bracket is definitely an advantage. Could see them making a run with their postseason experience and battle tested QB. 

    1A: Winamac - If anyone is gonna take out Adams Central in 1A north, I think it will be these guys. Made a run last year and returned a lot of that team. Experienced and hungry. It should come down to them and AC in the semi state. 

    DAC Fans

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    Having seen the City vs Valpo game in the regular season, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Wolves did beat the Vikings in the regional. They were without Omarion Hatch and an offensive linemen in their loss to Valpo, and Tyler Bush was starting his first game on varsity. It was 28-28 before City gave up a long td and then fumbled on their very next offensive play. I think Valpo and City will play in the regional and it will be very interesting to see what happens. 

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    Week 9 - Best Games in the Region / Michiana / Northeast Indiana

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    Can’t speak for the rest, but in the Region, I expect Merrillville and Hanover to win big. Chesterton really disappointed me last week losing to a solid but unspectacular Crown Point team. If they were serious threats to Merrillville that game should’ve been a blowout. Chris Mullen is a stud and the Trojan defense is stingy but I’ll take the Pirates by 3 TDs. As for the other game, in my opinion Hanover has established themselves as a darkhorse in 3A north, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they made a run to the semi state. The competition hasn’t been great, but boasting the top scoring offense in 3A along with a top 5 scoring defense is certainly impressive. Calumet has a nice defense, but they haven’t played a team with even half the firepower Hanover has. I’ll take the Wildcats by 4 TDs. 

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    Scores and Updates for Week 7 - 2021 | Post 'Em 🏈🏈🏈

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    2 minutes ago, Gipper said:

    So much for a fun one.  Are the Pirates ready for CG?  Possibly, but let’s see how the do with the likes of Lafayette Jeff and Penn or Elkhart first.  Is Valpo’s season over?  Clearly not, as this is just one game.

    I’m fairy certain Merrillville would throttle Jeff and Elkhart if they were to play those teams. CG is on another level. No one is going to touch them. Valpo had a lot of uncharacteristic penalties and turnovers, they will be fine. They have a cupcake sectional and will likely get a rematch with Michigan City or maybe Mishawaka in the regional. They’re very well positioned for an extended post season run. 

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