WestfieldRocks

On 10/31/2023 at 11:56 AM, temptation said:

LOL, oops.

1.  Ben Davis

2.  Center Grove

3.  Westfield

4.  Cathedral

5.  Hamilton Southeastern

6.  Fishers

For fun:

5A:

1.  Fort Wayne Snider

2. Valparaiso

3.  Bloomington South

4.  Decatur Central

5.  Merrillville

6.  Mishawaka

That's more like it :)

On 10/31/2023 at 12:49 PM, BTF said:

I think East Central, Chatard, and a few other teams have a shot at that 5 or 6 spot. We'll know more as the weeks go by. I think 3 & 4 is a little aggressive. 

Agreed. Chatard could compete in 4A, but 5A and especially 6A would probably be too much.

12 hours ago, roaringthunderdlr said:

Great visual representation of Frankfort football from 2014-present.

Perhaps Hot Dogs were being grilled?

On 10/31/2023 at 1:41 PM, temptation said:

Nobody could find Bargersville on a map until the early 90s.

70's? I was at Hinkle to see tiny Center Grove knock off mighty Richmond in the Semi-State. If memory serves me correctly, Richmond was ranked #1. A CG kid hit a shot at the buzzer to win. CG was then beaten by eventual state champ Connersville in the night title game. CG didn't seem to be a big school at all in the 70's.

5 hours ago, ragdoll said:

Jeff Fryar went from CG to LN in early 80's. 

I wasn't going to use his name, but yea. And it was early 80's. 

1 hour ago, Justasportsfan said:

Bally sports show pacer games yet will not spare a couple days to show a few "local" state championships..write it off as a donation to ihsaa..ig thats why they went bankrupt..

13 hours ago, Grover said:

Center Grove's enrollment explosion started in the 90s.

Yea, I remember even in the late 80's, CG was still thought of as a "country school". I worked with a guy whose kid was a QB back then. The dad was not pleased with the coaching, so "transferred" him to Lawrence N. 

On 10/28/2023 at 8:38 AM, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

Right now, Westfield feels like they are the class of 6A North. I was a little shocked that Carmel didn't put up much of a fight on their home turf. 

Carroll going down to Warsaw, has me confused. Warsaw has put together a strong season, but with their face plant against Mishawaka, I just don't know where everyone falls up here...could be a one off, it is so hard to tell. I thought Carroll, with their big game experience, would be able to get past Warsaw. I cannot imagine Carroll was looking beyond Warsaw, but kids do dumb kids stuff.

Assuming that they win another road game, this time at Noblesville, Westfield gets the winner of Fishers vs HSE. Since Westfield is in the bottom half of this sectional's bracket, that would give them a home game, regardless of who wins Fishers vs HSE, since Westfield would have already played two sectional road games. Westfield beat both during the regular season. Both of those teams will be tough outs. Westfield was all but beaten at HSE, but came up with a hook and lateral play that went for big yardage, and set up the winning TD with no time left on the clock. So it's going to be a battle, again, assuming they can get by Noblesville on Friday.

9 hours ago, gonzoron said:

It's a short trip, but it's not a quick one.

I heard after I posted the above that the game is at Westfield. SInce both teams were visitors last night, I assumed that the team in the bottom of the bracket was the home team. That would be Noblesville. But you are right, it's just a bit longer than to Carmel, but 32 is still a mess around the hospital. 

44 minutes ago, temptation said:

Four HCC teams remaining and none of them named Brownsburg.  They have to be sick to their stomachs.

They should be. They outplayed BD for the majority of that game. That pick 6 was the turning point. Not sure why you throw it there when you've got one of the best running backs in the state. I was surprised Avon lost to Pike. They had played better as of late. FC losing was not a surprise, and someone had to lose between Z'Ville and Noblesville. HSE and Fishers basically had scrimmages. I wasn't surprised Westfield beat Carmel for the second year in a row. I was surprised at how easy it was. It was 37-7 early in the 4th when Gilbert called off the dogs and played reserves the rest of the way. If they had not fumbled on Carmel's 3 yd line on their opening drive, it would have been a running clock the entire second half.

33 minutes ago, WestfieldRocks said:

Westfield 37

Carmel 21

Rocks totall domination tonight, leading 28-0 at halftime. It would have been 35-0 and a running clock the entire second half if they had not fumbled at the Carmel 3 on their first possession. It was 37-7 until Carmel scored two touchdowns in the last half of the 4th quarter.

Westfield travels again next week, this time to Noblesville

Carmel grandstands just prior to kickoff. And people talk about some of the other mega schools in the area!

On 10/26/2023 at 9:45 AM, BDGiant93 said:

Well, first of all, your pick is solid.

Secondly, if you're referring to the WC/BD game, those were pranksters outside the stadium in the woods with fireworks and that loophole has now been closed by Wayne Twp. School Police. If you're coming in to the game, arrive early. There will be delays at the gate for the security lines. If you arrive at 6:45 pm for the 7:00 pm game, you may miss action. Gates open at 6 pm.

It looked on TV that Brownsburg had a larger turnout of fans than BD. I would have thought that BD would have packed their side.

Westfield 37

Carmel 21

Rocks totall domination tonight, leading 28-0 at halftime. It would have been 35-0 and a running clock the entire second half if they had not fumbled at the Carmel 3 on their first possession. It was 37-7 until Carmel scored two touchdowns in the last half of the 4th quarter.

Westfield travels again next week, this time to Noblesville

7 minutes ago, Cloudy14 said:

Whoa!  4th Q comeback?

Big time comeback. Trailing 25-7, BD scored with about 6 minutes to go. Then shortly after the kickoff, BD has a pick six to get right back in the game. Brownsburg appeared rattled the remainder of the game. BD scored the winning TD with about 2 minutes to go. Brownsburg did nothing on their last offensive possession. 

On 10/17/2023 at 1:03 PM, Frozen Tundra said:

@Just a dad Just a heads up but I noticed Carroll was listed as Carmel in sectional 2.

I also saw this. Maybe Carmel is so large that they have two teams playing in different sectionals :)

16 hours ago, temptation said:

You’re right.  My bad.

When Westfield rolled over Carmel at Carmel in the opening game of this sectional last year, it was Westfield's first win since the mid 50's. Now you might say that they took a break from Carmel in football, because they did not play them often if any at all after that until they drew each other in a 5A sectional in 2010 before there was 6A. During that time, Carmel took off in size while Westfield was fairly stagnant until around a dozen years ago. The two schools did not compete in much of anything as far as athletics unless matched up in a tournament. They next played in the 2018 6A sectional, Carmel winning 28-7.  Carmel would go on to be 6A runnerup to Warren Central.

16 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

I disagree with Temp that having 5,000 students is a detriment, but do agree in a sense that at some point enrollment becomes redundant/irrelevant. If you have 2500-3000 kids in your school and can’t find 60-80 boys to field a competitive football team, that’s on you.

Ha! We use to say that when my son ran track and CC. We were always in the same invitationals, sectional, regional, and semi-state (now no longer), so we ran against them quite often.  Back then we'd have maybe 15 boys and a few more than that on the girls team, Carmel would roll out almost 100 kids for a CC meet. Since only 7 run varsity, that left about 90 kids running the open JV race at every meet. I'd think it would have been frustrating to be able to run less than a 16 minute 5K and never make the varsity, whereas on our boy's team, those kids would have been the top runners. 

17 hours ago, temptation said:

How are you gonna type with a serious face that they could potentially go 7-1 in the HCC 48 hours after saying they won’t make the 5A state title game because you expect them to “fall asleep” in the tournament, lol?

You fall asleep in the HCC, the 8th place team beats you.

Almost happened to Brownsburg after blowing out most everyone their schedule for the first 7 games, including FW Dwenger on the road. They go to Noblesville (1-6 in the HCC) and almost lose. 

6 hours ago, Lysander said:

No thoughts on the game actually but, before I head out of town for a few weeks, I just wanted to offer another ongoing playground for folks to sh!tpost about their various rings, why Chatard shouldn't be in 3A and anything else having nothing to do with either the game or the thread.  If it were possible for both teams to lose I'm clearly aware that about 95% of the state would see it as optimal.

Regardless, best wishes to both teams.

Have fun ladies.  

Carry on.

PS - Anyone checked CalPreps this week?  Not that I agree, btw, but its certainly additional fodder.

They won't be in 3A after this season, correct? Success factored up to 4A

On 10/18/2023 at 12:38 PM, PDB26 said:

Seeding is a good idea with the all-in tournament, and seeding teams within the four regionals before re-seeding for the semi state should mitigate travel concerns to a reasonable degree.

I looked at the "travel issue" for this weeks games. There are a few tonight just in 1A that have quite a bit of travel.

Sheridan/Hagerstown - One and a half hour drive

Next week: Either Monroe Central or Union City/Sheridan (assuming Sheridan wins) Either 1 hour and a half or an hour and 50 minutes.

Indy Luthern/N. Central Farmersburg or S. Putnam - An hour and 50 minutes or an hour and 10 minutes

Providence/E. Greene - One hour 10 minutes

I didn't look at the other 5 classes, but one can see that even at the sectional level, not seeded, travel can be an issue.

3 hours ago, temptation said:

West Lafayette

Knox

Heritage

Indianapolis Chatard

Tri-West

Gibson Southern

Lawrenceburg

Heritage Hills

 

Knox

Indianapolis Chatard

Gibson Southern

Heritage Hills

 

Indianapolis Chatard

Gibson Southern

 

Indianapolis Chatard

 

I would say that this is the easiest to predict the winner, except for the sectional that Chatard has to go through.

3 hours ago, temptation said:

Triton

Park Tudor

Carroll (Flora)

Adams Central

Sheridan

Milan

Indianapolis Lutheran

Providence

 

Triton

Adams Central

Milan

Indianapolis Lutheran

 

Adams Central

Indianapolis Lutheran

 

Indianapolis Lutheran

Or maybe Lutheran is the easiest of the 6 classes to predict. (RE my comment on your 4A picks ) :)

4 hours ago, temptation said:

New Prairie

NorthWood

Leo

Kokomo

Brebeuf Jesuit

New Palestine

East Central

Evansville Reitz

 

NorthWood

Leo

New Palestine

East Central

 

Leo

East Central

 

East Central

EC may be the easiest prediction of the 6 classes

On 10/14/2023 at 6:56 PM, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

The higher seed plays at home?

They should instead of by the luck of the bracket. If I read Westfield's sectional correctly, they are at Carmel. Win, and if Noblesville wins at Zionsville, Westfield goes to Noblesville. That would be three straight on the road, with 7 of their 11 games away from home. With seeding, they would play both sectional games at home, regardless of the sectional opponent.

20 hours ago, slice60 said:

FC physically controlled the game for the first quarter & a half. But then the clearly-superior Westfield staff made smart adjustments to put their players in position to win. Westfield's three 2nd half TD passes were beautifully designed plays & executed to perfection-- TE sideline out & up for 81 yards, seam pattern using mismatch of best WR on OLB for 46 yards, wheel to RB with play action misdirection for 60 yards. None of those passes traveled more than 10-15 yards downfield & those receivers were WIDE OPEN.  Gilbert & his staff coached circles around West.

This was also Coach Gilbert's 100th win at Westfield.

Westfield 28

Franklin Central 19

Rock were down 12-0 late in the first half, but a touchdown before halftime made it 12-7.  Westfield was pretty much in control the rest of the way. They scored less than a minute into the second half on a long TD pass to make it 14-12.  Another long TD pass made it 21-12. FC did score to close it to 21-19, but Westfield promptly threw another bomb to make it 28-19. Rocks tried a late field goal but missed, thus the final score. FC hurt by four turnovers. 

Next week a bye, then the Rocks once again will travel the 5 miles down 31 to play at Carmel in the opening game of their sectional.