Titan32

No arguments regarding multipliers not applying to P/Ss that focus on synchronized swimming. But for schools that have the football pieces in place....the only issue is the one I described. Perhaps a modified success factor can fix that...but the enrollments are so catastrophically different between P/Ps and even successful publics ...student type is the fundamental issue. A pay to play club and a mandatory institution have very little in common.

No that doesn't work, just because at the P/Ps one pays to be in a club with like minded students/athletes, one shouldn't be afforded the reward of classification that only counts bodies. Said another way, if we have 20% of our student population only showing up because they have a pulse and the law says they have to be there...why should we (3A rural public), be punished for that. If we could ship those kids to a 2A P/P...suddenly now that P/P would be 3A and have a lot more administrative things to worry about.. This is the main reason of the disparity in football success (using body counting) for schools that also have the other things it takes to be successful in football.

Fair enough, I was just pointing out the real issue with P/Ps vs Publics....enrollment type per capita. It really is that simple. How to fix it, not so simple.

For the record guys...I didn't say I was for a multiplier. What I do say is the current success factor is NOT working well.

This is simply not true. Every beating heart at a P/P has parents who have paid for a service and expect results. The enrollment make up is completely different...so different in fact it is literally apples and oranges. Quality, hard-working, success oriented, extracurricular participating students are at nearly 100% levels at a P/P (regardless if mom and dad drive a Chevy Cruze or a Bentley). This is not the case at any public school no matter how good their free and assisted lunch numbers are or how rural/metro/affluent they are or anything else. Publics and P/Ps can both have all the things that make a football program successful or only a smaller subset of them....that's where these discussions always go and frankly it doesn't matter. I won't list them all out as we all know what they are. The enrollment type disparity will always be the issue and that is what makes multipliers attractive because it makes an attempt to address that issue with some crude math. As an example. I believe that Mater Dei (496) and Gibson Southern (704) run about the same in terms of the number of the type student I described above. Ideally these two schools should be in the same classification if we want a fair system.

Mooresville 7 on 7 Varsity (Big School) Pool Play Gibson Southern 17 Indy Lutheran 6 Gibson Southern 21 Indian Creek 13 Gibson Southern 26 Phalen Academy 17 Gibson Southern 14 Cascade 9 Tournament play (2 seed) Gibson Southern 33 Phalen Academy 8 Gibson Southern 26 Yorktown 24 Gibson Southern 8 Indy Lutheran 6 Gibson Southern 13 Speedway 28

Washington, Barr Reeve and Loogootee. WOW!

I can get you a server (in a hardened data center) until the end of time as long as you have the software.

Totally Agree with all points here.

People are too lazy to deal with the double top secret authentication of this site when they can just mind numbingly click around in facebook and find some content that they can make even more mind numbingly comments about.

Well my grandpa always said never say never but there are many many variables to life and career (no matter what the job). From reading your posts over the years, I understand that you kind of take the position that for a young coach...the next bigger "thing" should be the main focus. For some perhaps but many times it is not, in fact in the Teaching and Coaching profession in our fine state you might be able to say that even MOST of the time it is not. Coaching in HS has a very complex set of variables maybe more than many other careers. I have laid these out multiple times and won't bore folks here with it again. Long story short, I think Coach Hart has found a great place to raise a young family and he isn't the first professional to make that decision about the South Gibson area.

I like how you do these....they spark conversation even though some have no chance of coming true...it is still fun.

It's pushing these kids to be type of player they don't want them to be down the line....just dumb.

I think the competition is more about equal opportunity than anything being pushed. I obviously have opinions but at the end of the day only one opinion matters.

I would say behind schedule a little. Normally have more open fields and the like but so many multiple sport athletes made that nearly impossible. Very young in terms of varsity experience on defense. Having a QB competition is honestly a bit of a hiderence as well, that said both kids can throw how we need them to throw. The questions will get answered when pads go on as they always do.

Quiet on here in the PAC. I'm sure everyone has had some OTA's and maybe some 7 on 7 practice, summer weights etc. How are we looking?

Prayers for family, friends and the community.

Try this one: https://www.facebook.com/107360041590757/posts/346749644318461/?d=n

Mt. Vernon Coach Messmer interview: https://www.facebook.com/107360041590757/posts/344650374528388/?d=n

Good interview. Typical Coach Hart.

I should mention that GS was also conference champs in Track.

Track Sectional with PAC teams last night. Gibson Southern won the sectional 31 team title. Michael Herren from Gibson Southern won the 100 (11.24), 200 (22.64) and was on the winning 4x100 team (3 of 4 and (maybe/hopefully all 4) are GS football players this fall). (44.68) Left to right Daniel Thomas, Sean DeLong, Michael Herren, Mason Scheller (all sophomores). Final Team Standings - Top 3 1. Gibson Southern 166 2. Princeton 153 3. South Knox 84 GS athletes who advance to Regional are listed!! Congrats to all athletes & coaches on a great night!!

No sir, you do a good job with that.

The Gibson Southern Football Booster page already shared that as well.

And that is simply because the Gibson Southern Football Booster page reposted your articles. You should thank that page.