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Old Man High Pants

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  1. I feel like the biggest issues come from the 7 on 7 tournament or 11 on 11 camps where you go against teams you don't know. Was at a 7 on 7 tournament earlier this year where players started getting chippy, which is expected, but then coaches got involved and it only escalated from there. Luckily one of the coaches called it early or it could have resulted in something worse. I feel like a big amplifier of these issues are social media posts. We see it all the time at these prospect camps where players do something unrealistically stupid (my favorite is the totally like a real football game unpadded 1 on 1 pass rush where the Offensive Lineman grabs and sumo throws the Defensive Linemen) followed by what I think some have referenced as a "bro coach" coming up to that player to give them some flying chest bump. You can blame it on a lot of things, social media, bro coaches, poor influence from the NFL but it's something that just makes me eye roll every time I see it. In my opinion these summer scrimmages are best served when the opposing coaches have a relationship and can police their players, letting them know nobody is winning anything today. If that is not the overall theme then things like what have been described are going to happen almost every time.
  2. Yeah John Harrell hasn't been updated yet with it. The problem with the division split is who will eventually be the Big Division. Connersville will be the second biggest schools for some time and gives them no competition, it's a waist of time for both of them. At some point Franklin County will drop to the small division bringing Greensburg up, who they don't play anymore because both schools decided it was best for them both not to. That leaves Lawrenceburg who isn't really competitive against them. Lawrenceburg has improved greatly under Coach Knigga but Lawrenceburg has gone from losing by 50 to losing by 25. A decade ago when the conference was set up this way there were a lot of people who wanted East Central to be completely in or completely out. I think that mentality has changed and if it were revisited most people would be more than happy for them to be independent in football. No
  3. I also remember Jennings County & Madison being thrown out there. If it were the only option I would definitely take Madison & Jennings County over Connersville & Rushville but at this point I don't see the EIAC expanding any further unless those two were to leave. I'll beat a dead horse and say the conference should go back to 6 but who knows. The conference these days is a mess. Technically it was never set up as a 4A / 3A conference but a Big School / Small School conference. The 4A / 3A I believe was just easier to say, or market? The divisions will change this year with East Central, Connersville, Franklin County & Lawrenceburg being the Big Division. Greensburg, Batesville, South Dearborn & Rushville will be the Small Division. It's all so dumb, it'll be interesting once Franklin County drops to the Small School division forcing Greensburg back into the Big School division since Greensburg & East Central decided not to play anymore. I don't think you'll ever see South Dearborn, Lawrenceburg, East Central, Greensburg, or Batesville leave the EIAC. It's a great conference for all the athletic departments as a whole. Could East Central go fully independent in football? I know a lot of people would prefer that and I'd say fat chance but now that USC is going to be in the Big 10 never say never. I could eventually see Franklin County moving to another conference in the distant future. Brookville isn't going to grow while all the schools around them in the conference keep getting bigger. If they were to ever to drop down to 2A I could see them going to the TEC. But that's a long way away if ever. Connersville & Rushville could leave tomorrow and I wouldn't be surprised. I think it's going to depend on some other Indianapolis area conferences though. There's been talk for a long time that Connersville & Rushville could join Richmond, Muncie Central & Anderson leaving the North Central with some Hoosier Heritage like New Castle, Delta & Yorktown. With Centerville moving up to 3A now I think that becomes even more of a viable league.
  4. How come every time they talk about Jennings County & Madison, somebody got to bring up the EIAC.
  5. All of the schools I've listed are within twenty minutes of each other. I'm an East Central graduate, lived almost in Ohio, drove 25 minutes everyday to get to school, some of my teammates had further drives. Not asking anyone to make hour long commutes. That and most of the schools I mention consolidating are in the same county. How do kids in Rush County all make it to Rushville High School? How do all the kids in Franklin County make it to Franklin County High School? How do all of the kids in Jennings County make it to Jennings County High School?
  6. I'll repost here for those that didn't see it on the other contraction thread DT started Consolidation not Contraction I know in the southeastern part of the state there are quite a few football programs that would benefit from this. Now I know school corporations make decisions based on a thousand other things then athletic programs but some of these smaller schools that are still out there I think would benefit from either consolidating with other small schools or a big school. I think a great example of this would be the schools in Decatur County. Currently those include Greensburg, North Decatur & South Decatur. These are three schools that are all within a 20 minute drive of each other (Greensburg & North Decatur are literally on the opposite sides of 74). According to the last enrollment numbers if all three of these schools combined they would have a student population of 1,278. This would make "Decatur County High School" a lot more competitive as a 4A school, maybe even a good team to play with Greensburg conference opponent East Central. In recent years South Decatur has had number issues and both North & South have had conference issues. Other schools in southeastern Indiana that could benefit from this: Milan + South Ripley + Jac-Cen-Del = "Ripley County High School" with 950 kids (South Ripley & Jac-Cen-Del do not have football teams) Madison + Southwestern Hanover = "Jefferson County High School" with 1,114 kids (Southwestern Hanover doesn't have a football team) Connersville + Union County = "Fayette-Union High School" with 1,374 kids Switzerland County + Rising Sun = "Switz-Ohio High School" with 657 kids (Rising Sun doesn't have a football team) Personally I think consolidation has a lot of benefits when it comes to the actual classroom and educational experience a student has. Small school generally means small resources. But when it comes to all the problems DT/HHF talks about I think this could be an answer. It creates schools with large enough enrollments to field football teams and gives even more kids opportunity to play football. I don't have enough knowledge about other parts of the state but I'm sure there are similar situations across the state.
  7. Exactly, it should mean something to earn the right to play on Friday night. Not oh we're destroying another team so send in the backups for mop up duty.
  8. Yes, mercy rule is a great idea, but we shouldn't have to wait till the second half to start it. Doesn't matter to me if we keep it at 35 points, make it 42 or 49. Although this is a great argument to go back to no mercy rule.
  9. We're in agreement on that. More of a reason to get games moving when it's 35-0 at the start of the second quarter and you have to get through another regular timed 12 minutes.
  10. I'm saying they do these things when it's 35-0 at half and there's a running clock, are you saying they don't? I'm confused.
  11. At least my bad ideas are ways to reallocate money while getting more kids involved with football then taking it away from them. I know it will never happen, but honestly having some of those schools still open is a waist of money and resources. Just looking at Decatur county, it employs 2 superintendents, 3 principals, 3 assistant principals, 3 athletic directors. That's a lot of administrative pay for one county with fewer than 1,300 students. And I'm not trying to bad mouth any of the supers, principals, or ADs, I'm sure they all do a great job. Additionally think about the money spent on keeping all three of those high schools running with annual building & grounds maintenance, heating & AC, basic utilities, etc. Again a lot of money that could be spent for athletics or other extra curriculars that would enrich the high school experiences of students. Pipe dream . . . yeah, but still makes fiscal sense.
  12. Ok so I know that DT/HHF brings up contraction every chance he gets. In very, very few cases I believe he makes some good points. But there is another "C" word that I believe would be more of a beneficial talk, consolidation. I know in the southeastern part of the state there are quite a few football programs that would benefit from this. Now I know school corporations make decisions based on a thousand other things then athletic programs but some of these smaller schools that are still out there I think would benefit from either consolidating with other small schools or a big school. I think a great example of this would be the schools in Decatur County. Currently those include Greensburg, North Decatur & South Decatur. These are three schools that are all within a 20 minute drive of each other (Greensburg & North Decatur are literally on the opposite sides of 74). According to the last enrollment numbers if all three of these schools combined they would have a student population of 1,278. This would make "Decatur County High School" a lot more competitive as a 4A school, maybe even a good team to play with Greensburg conference opponent East Central. In recent years South Decatur has had number issues and both North & South have had conference issues. Other schools in southeastern Indiana that could benefit from this: Milan + South Ripley + Jac-Cen-Del = "Ripley County High School" with 950 kids (South Ripley & Jac-Cen-Del do not have football teams) Madison + Southwestern Hanover = "Jefferson County High School" with 1,114 kids (Southwestern Hanover doesn't have a football team) Connersville + Union County = "Fayette-Union High School" with 1,374 kids Switzerland County + Rising Sun = "Switz-Ohio High School" with 657 kids (Rising Sun doesn't have a football team) Personally I think consolidation has a lot of benefits when it comes to the actual classroom and educational experience a student has. Small school generally means small resources. But when it comes to all the problems DT/HHF talks about I think this could be an answer. It creates schools with large enough enrollments to field football teams and gives even more kids opportunity to play football. I don't have enough knowledge about other parts of the state but I'm sure there are similar situations across the state.
  13. Which like I said before turns into nothing but a glorified JV game. Playing on Friday night doesn't mean anything when everyone is trying to get the game over as quickly as possible, coaches & players are mentally checking out, and fans are emptying the stands.
  14. I can respect this side of the argument as well. Totally understand this perspective and used to 100% agree. But on the teams I've been involved with when we were on the winning side of the mercy rule we immediately subbed down, which is something I think you'll start to see more of as the rule continues. Honestly now I think it's a bad look if you get to the mercy rule and don't start to sub down. I don't think I'd ever be in favor of a "run rule" for football like baseball. Still think you should finish out the game.
  15. I don't buy into the reps thing. I've been on both sides of the mercy rule. The winning team is hoping to get the game over without getting any of their guys injured and the losing team is just wanting to get out of there. Most teams sub down anyways once it starts, that's what JV & Frosh games are for. A team getting mercy ruled multiple games who wants more Friday night reps is a team that needs to get more reps in the off season so that it doesn't happen. Never hear the argument that baseball teams getting 10 run ruled are losing at bats. I don't care what the point total is but there are still too many games ending in 50 plus, 60 plus, 70 plus win margins to not get it going in the first half.
  16. I was sitting in the stands for a game last season where parents of players on the winning team were literally yelling at their own sons to fall down so they wouldn't score again so quickly! The current rule should be expanded to any time in the game. I don't think I've ever seen a team down by 35 come back and win it. If we're trying to end blowouts quicker there's no reason to wait. Lawrenceburg beat Rushville 91-12 last year! And that's not even the game I was referencing above. If you want to make it 42 instead of 35 doesn't matter to me. But we need it in the first half.
  17. This won't happen. Connersville & Rushville are a terrible fit for the EIAC, geographically & otherwise.
  18. I understand the frustration of a high turnover rate but there's a big difference between being a head coach and a coordinator. Now if he left to be the head coach at another school in the area, I could understand being like "ok guy", but he's demoting himself. Not something a lot of coaches who want to climb the ladder are up for. And a HUGE difference living an hour away from the help your daughter needs. Coach Sharp is making an adult decision, if people can't see that they need to get over themselves. As far as the hiring of this coach, I think it's a huge gaffe for the administration. Making the decision to hire a guy from the literal other side of the country? Plus one who didn't seem to be anywhere for the long haul (like most coaches). Not a smart move, especially if you're worried about the turnover rate of head football coaches.
  19. Not sure how that can be seen by them as a slap in the face? A father trying to build a historically bad program and driving 2 hours to get his daughter to the doctors she needs decides to take a lesser role at a program that's practically in the city his daughter's doctors are in, sounds like a guy being a good dad.
  20. Would last year's interim have any interest? At this point he'd be the guy I would turn to.
  21. East Central will never fully leave the conference and I don't think they should. Outside of football mostly every other sport is competitive.
  22. Circle City seems like a bit of a drive but there are a couple conferences over in Cincinnati that I think they'd be a great fit for. But if you think that has a chance of happening I also have a bridge to sell you.
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