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"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
1. I don't. You made that up. It is a weak rhetorical technique 2. Corporations are not human, they don't have morals. They exist to maximize profits. 3. My 2018 Chevy Bolt is outstanding. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Maximizing Profits....its what corporations do. Not sure why you keep using the word "evil" Unfortunately Subaru is 20 years late to the hybrid vehicle market and instead of focusing on vehicle emissions (a MUCH bigger environment issue that solid waste) they choose to pound their chest over reducing solid waste. By refusing to address climate change in their corporate vision they have turned a blind eye to the real environmental issue of the 21st century while still looking like a responsible corporate citizen. Very slick of them. Maximizing Profits....its what corporations do. Of course, your recent posting of articles from climate change denying sites makes me think that this line of argument will be lost on you. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
It is what corporations do. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
When the lack of regulation makes it more profitable to dump than to pay fines or clean up costs. It is in BP's future plans to maximize profit for their shareholders. By any means necessary. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
When BP is allowed to dump a 2 inch thick oil slick without repercussion like they did in 1952. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
No it is illogical. I mentioned that it has been less than 10 years where corporations had virtually unlimited financial access to lawmakers and 2 years of an administration that is so cravenly beholden to the donor/corporate class that they are trying to roll back 50 years of clean up. Give them time -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
And into the Muda Vortex -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Give them time. Citizens United decision isn't even 10 years old yet. Trump's administration has their marching orders from big biz and is doing their best to increase pollution. http://columbiaclimatelaw.com/resources/climate-deregulation-tracker/ Coal Emissions, Methane and Unregulated Landfills....oh my. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Hairy marching hippies carried much more weight in the 60s. Corporations and their lobbying dough carry the weight now. Corporations have no compunction to not pollute if the corporation can make more money by polluting. That's exactly why the river became Cleveland's toilet. -
New Donald Trump thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
memes tell me he loves the blacks..... -
New Donald Trump thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
wow the hair was super weird back then -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Unregulated capitalists used the river as their sewer for over 100 years. Soon, the river was filthy. “Yellowish-black rings of oil circled on its surface like grease in soup,” recalled František Vlček, a Czech immigrant, of his first view of the river in the 1880s. “The water was yellowish, thick, full of clay, stinking of oil and sewage. Piles of rotting wood were heaped on either bank of the river, and it was all dirty and neglected….I was disappointed by this view of an American river.” Between 1868 and 1952, it burned nine times. The 1952 fire racked up $1.5 million in damage. But by most, occasional fires and pollution were seen as the cost of industry—a price no one was willing to dispute. Those capitalists were real stewards -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Not in the 1880s The website denies and the first paragraph of the article contains a blatant lie. Strike 2 your out. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
The whole website denies climate change. So in a word...Yes. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Yeah Cleveland was doing a heckuva job https://www.history.com/news/epa-earth-day-cleveland-cuyahoga-river-fire-clean-water-act "The waste those firms did discharge turned the river muddy and filled it with oil, solvents and other industrial products. Between 1868 and 1952, it burned nine times. The 1952 fire racked up $1.5 million in damage. But by most, occasional fires and pollution were seen as the cost of industry—a price no one was willing to dispute. When fire broke out on the river again in 1969, it seemed like business as usual. “Most Clevelanders seemed not to care a great deal,” write environmental historians David Stradling and Richard Stradling. “Far too many problems plagued the city for residents to get hung up on a little fire…The ’69 fire didn’t represent the culmination of an abusive relationship between a city and its environment. It was simply another sad chapter in the long story of a terribly polluted river.”" According to the National Parks Service, the river still has unhealthy amounts of sewage in some areas. But in March 2019, the Ohio EPA announced that its fish are now safe to eat." God Bless the USA EPA! -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Liars are liars. You trust em....I don't. To be honest, most of the clap trap you post is so incredibly biased and some verges on conspiracy non sense that I have stopped giving it more than a cursory read. Even when I did read the non sense and respond, the discussion always went into the Muda vortex of personalizing the argument. When called out, it then went to "your" the smartest guy in the room or "I learned it from you" rhetorical technique. So....save your breath. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Gingrich, in the article, claimed to be in Congress, when the Cuyahoga caught on fire in the summer of '69. He was only off by a decade... So the local government was ineffective....hmmm -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Cleveland sucks -
New Donald Trump thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Showed up for me. The Post must have algorithm that allows commies in. -
"Green New Deal" - needs it's own thread
BARRYOSAMA replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
An organization that eschews man-made climate change.....Burn baby Burn