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Saw this tonite. As QB pulled away from nearly being sack, he used the ball to steady himself putting it on the ground momentarily & then the QB avoided a few more tackles for a nice gain. Many of the home fans around me erupted yelling "He's down! The ball touched the ground!" 

In an effort to be helpful (lol), I told the closest fans they were completely wrong. One guy told me to go sit on the visitor's side. I pointed out that none of the home team coaches seemed to be arguing that call -- a timeout had been called so they had time to argue if they wanted. He didn't accept that rationale either.

9 minutes ago, foxbat said:

BTW, it's not the most points scored in Indiana ... 156 back in 1924. 

Well, we need to get the full scoop on that 1924 & criticize whomever is to blame! I bet those poor kids on the losing end never recovered. Maybe we can ask their Great-Great-Great Grandchildren for some stories of woe.

Just now, Bonecrusher said:

When I was a H.S. player, if an opponent was ahead that far started taking a knee every down/punting on 1st down/etc. I would have been offended.  I would have seen that as a slap in the face.  Ya'll think we suck that bad that you don't even want to play the game?  If we have to stay out here, even with a running clock, then let's play some ball.  I would have preferred to go down fighting.  Losing a game against an opponent in that manner would have felt more humiliating than running simple plays.  It's like they're dumbing down the game just for you.  Even if 2nd string is in and they're running basic plays, it still resembles normal game play.  Continuous kneeling, punting, etc. does not IMHO.

Ya'll feel free to disagree, but that's how I would have felt and ain't nothing changing my mind.  Maybe I'm just too old school.

Agree 100%. Back in my day, we were on the short end of a few 40-0 type games. Basic plays by 2nd or 3rd string was just fine. Kneeling down would be akin to taunting.

On 10/29/2019 at 12:58 AM, DT said:

It is the responsibility of the IHSAA to attempt to see that all schools are treated fairly and equitably.  While the schools themselves are not concerned about the bye situation, the governing body, the IHSAA, should be.  It just defies logic that a school with 100 kids on the roster that goes 4 deep at every position gets a week off while a school with 21 that cant even scrimmage in practice has to go out and play a do or die elimination game.  Where's the fairness and equity in that?

That's exactly why the IHSAA split 6A from 5A. Due to the large enrollment gap (Schools #1-11 at 3000+, schools 45-64 below 1800) & other factors, the largest schools were dominated the 64-team 5A tournament. So they added 6A in order to make it more equitable amongst those schools. And having a bye week is the best way for it to work.

As many have TRIED to explain to you, this is essentially 6 different tournaments. Small schools are not at a disadvantage because they don't play those big schools in the tournament. Are there a few byes in almost every class? Yes. Is this completely fair? No. But you have byes in every IHSAA team sport tournament (which impact pitchers' availability in baseball!)-- it's almost impossible to avoid those without making some schools travel crazy distances in Sectionals. 

On 10/28/2019 at 11:56 PM, Frozen Tundra said:

Columbus East definitely needed the bye. Our boys are a lot more banged up than in previous years. Regardless, I have no problem with the bye being that particular week. Sure beats 2013 and 2014 where the bye in 6A was the week between semi-state and state. If I was a player on one of those teams playing for a state title I would've hated having to think about that game for two weeks.

Good point-- the IHSAA tried it out that way but this way works better. Plus, with more than 34 teams in 5A this year (& 33 next year), there were two 5A games last Friday which mandated a bye week for the rest.

You guys wouldn't be pitching a fit if nobody got a bye week like it was back in the days when every class had the same number of teams. Does this mean DT & his followers are SOCIALIST??? (i.e. Everybody deserves to be treated exactly the same...if you have something, I should get it too.)

2 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

Thanksgiving....?

LOL. Oops. Well, I didn't say it was a perfect, well-thought-out idea...kind of like DT's ideas.

Or we could have 5 games on Friday & 5 games on Saturday. LOS would need 2 shifts of employees.

1 hour ago, Gridiron_Junkie said:

I like this but i'm sure the Colts would like to have an occasional after Thanksgiving weekend Sunday home game.

They can play at home on Sunday. HS games would be Thurs-Fri-Sat.

DT's superpower is roping us into these conversations with his ideas to fix things that aren't broken. 

The only teams who could be at a disadvantage are the 5A schools in 5-team sectionals. When the IHSAA decided to split out 6A for competitive balance purposes, I believe that the plan was to have exactly 32 teams each in 5A & 6A. Not sure why they didn't do that for this 2-year cycle-- maybe due to the Elkhart consolidation or general logistics/travel issues in certain areas of the state.

But I don't want to be blasted for disagreeing with DT without offering up my own idea. So here goes--

320 schools with football = 10 classes, 32 teams each. No change needed to schedule at all-- 9 regular season games, BYE WEEK FOR ALL, 32-team/5-week tournament for each class, 3 day State Finals extravaganza at LOS.

Just now, BendNotBreak said:

Me either.... crashed?

Same here. This never happens to Harrell. Could it be a surprise contraction???

1 minute ago, DumfriesYMCA said:

Wasn’t beech grove and btc undefeated? 
 

btc was 9-0. Could have swore BG was 9-0 too

Beech Grove was 5-4. You were thinking of 9-0 Boone Grove up north.

Forgive me if this has been discussed or is in this thread-- does the Mercy Rule apply the same way in the tournament? If so, it could even come into play in some late November games.

On 10/17/2019 at 10:42 AM, Cow Bell said:

The TD Shelbyville scored was on the opening kick off...

Shelbyville returned the opening kickoff of the season for a TD & then didn't score again until game #9??? Oh man, that's tough.

Do any states have this kind of rule? My guess is that the National Federation would have to weigh in as well.

Your points are not without merit but this type of rule could backfire if a lot of kids decide to choose 1 sport even though they have the ability to play 2 or 3 sports. Many small schools rely on those multi-sport studs to carry their sports programs.

The coaching staff went to those extraordinary lengths in order to win a season opener against an out-of-state opponent??? Wow.

And why was the AD & staff asleep at the wheel too?

Edit-- In a follow-up article, I read that the long-time AD decided it was time to retire right now.

The coaching staff went to those extraordinary lengths in order to win a season opener against an out-of-state opponent??? Wow.

And why was the AD & staff asleep at the wheel too?

2 hours ago, MICFan34 said:

That's a pretty difficult road, even in their own sectional. Those three sectional teams, including HSE (big W over BBurg on Friday), have the potential to knock off Carmel. 

And are Homestead/Laf Jeff/Merrillville as good as advertised to shock the Hounds?

Shout out to former Slicer HC Dave Sharpe who is the D-coordinator at HSE now.

Just now, Temptation said:

3a is yours.

Excellent! I am glad to help. Thanks again for running the show!

I will grade any of the small classes. 1A, 2A or 3A. You choose.

1 hour ago, MICFan34 said:

Is it the first time ever the top 3 teams in 6A (old 5A too) weren't from the MIC? Going to be a chaotic 6A Tourney. 

Carmel at #4 seems high to me. Here is their path to LOS. I don't see a clearcut favorite in the 6A North this season.

Opener at HSE, solid & improving team.

#7 Fishers or Westfield in Sectional final.

#3 Homestead or #11 Snider in Regional.

#2 Laf Jeff, #7 Merrillville or #12 Warsaw in Semi State.

You know that the DEFENDING CHAMP is in!

Temptation -- If you need some help, I will volunteer to check 1 or 2 classes.

Maybe the conference can implement a Success Factor of some sort. 😉

Indiana seems to have the right amount of teams & a relatively small geographic area in order to have ALL-IN high school postseason tournaments in every team sport. States like OH, IL, CA have too many schools.

If you change the football tournament so that teams must "qualify" for the postseason tournament, then (in my opinion) it's only fair to do that in every other team sport. There's no way the IHSAA will ever do that.

So I will never understand why so many Indiana high school football supporters want to take away something good from Indiana high school football players.

On 10/14/2019 at 3:53 PM, Footballking16 said:

I have another suggestion: DON'T READ THE THREAD.

This is the second time today you've voluntarily read and even chose to reply in a thread you've voiced your disdain for.

Why am I not allowed to point out the STUPIDITY of trying to bring back the Cluster system which was a total ClusterF*** 40 years ago???

The Cluster system is like Ronald Reagan...both belong to the 80s & both are long gone. Let them both Rest In Peace.

On 10/15/2019 at 8:59 AM, superjay said:

Need to find a way to get the bottom 25% out of the tournament.  It will be too much effort for the IHSAA.  They couldn’t even get realignment right.

Almost all of the bottom 25% are eliminated in week 1 anyway.

Somebody help me. I can't find the DELETE THIS TOPIC FOREVER button.

35 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I'd like to see both teams seeded appropriate to their regular season success. This is a game that at a minimum should be played at the regional level, if not semi-state or the state finals. 

So you want the entire field seeded? I'm sure that wouldn't cause controversy.

Plus, you would have long travel for early round games. I'm sure no one would bitch about that-- both because the road team would have to sit on a bus for 2-3 hours & only their fans diehard would be make the trip (which means lower attendance).

ARE ANY OF THESE BRILLIANT IDEAS EVEN ON THE IHSAA RADAR OR IS IT JUST AN ANNUAL GID FORUM WASTE OF TIME???