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50 minutes ago, Playmaker said:

What are the CIC middle school teams looking like? Any of the schools have any pretty good groups coming up?

There is some talent in some of the teams like Alexandria, Lapel(non-cic), Oakville and Eastbrook.  

Problem is outside of Eastbrook the rest of the CIC coaches to win at all levels and not teach their high school offenses and defenses. So the rest of the schools are teaching offensive/ defensive schemes, tackling and proper blocking when they are freshman.

Eastbrook is a group that from an early age instills values and worries less about winning at the youth level but when these kids buy in to the weight program and what the coaches instill they are more than ready in 9th.

The rest of the cic except for maybe Oak Hill and Ole miss have to rely on what talent is coming through in different years.

It is amazing how many coaches only coach to the talent level they have and do not go above and beyond to milk every last potential piece of talent they can out 9f every athlete.

Also it would be interesting to see what coaches follow their kids throughout the year on a daily, weekly and monthly basis to see why make they are suffering in school or at home and not just letting them fall off. 

The retention rate of athletes at some of the schools is just unacceptable and the reason for their failure or being below average. 

31 minutes ago, djbowzz said:

No Game tonight.  Unable to find an opponent.

That is to bad for Eastbrook.  I know they are not getting much out of backend of schedule with Alex,Blackford and Elwood. Hopefully they will be ready for tourney time!

2 hours ago, djbowzz said:

Just saw that also....  Harrison Lafayette is looking.  AP 5A #5 vs 2A #2.  That could sell some tickets, but getting a game plan together that quick would be interesting.

Agree could be tough but would be an interesting match up! I think Eastbrook could win that game! 

Eastbrook will win big against Blackford!  Blackford has 25-26 dressing? Going to be ugly early!

Madison Grant wins this by 2 or 3 scores. Elwood did a heck of a job fighting last week! Could be alot of scoring!

Ole Miss by 4-5 scores! Thought Alex would score 1-2 last week but didn't happen. Expect Alex to score 2or3 td's in this one. Ole Miss will score at will on most drives.

Oak Hill wins this one but expect Frankton to score a few times. Oak hill by 3tds

Looks like most of the games went as expected! Will be interesting on this 2nd half of the season to see how everyone finishes up!

5 hours ago, CoachOsGhost said:

This is the best response on here. We'll said sir, well said. 

Thank you sir! Just been around and seen to much in the last 15 years! When it comes to a star player they are treated much differently than a lower teered player in the cic for the most part! But Eastbrook is a class act and leads by example.  I hope someday that the rest of the schools will learn from it!

You would be surprised at what kids get away with now! We live in a different time frame. As a former coach I do not agree with it but it is what it is. The AD at Eastbrook is a great man and always does the right thing. May not always agree with everything done but these kids are doing nothing different than we did 20-30 years ago. Problem is everyone has social media and knows everyone's business! 

Let these kids learn from their mistakes and move on! I have seen other kids throughout the cic get away with alot worse.

I hope Alexandria puts up a decent fight but not holding my breath. They will have to score 50+ to be competitive and we all know that won't happen. Alex cannot stop anyone with that defense! 

I know that Blackford lost their 1st or 2nd best player in Bryan hernandez.  Kid is a beast but heard he has a long road ahead possibly!  Heard broken ribs and a possible punctured lung! Blackford is already in a bad state this will hit huge!

Eastbrook big in this one! Alex's offense will put up 12-14 but cannot stop anyone on defense it will show this Friday!

Blackford wins by 2 scores! Elwood showed some heart against Alex. Just no talent. Blackford lot of Ironman football.

Ole Miss wins this one by 4 scores. Starting to figure it out! Frankton will put up some points.

Oak Hill in a 3 score game. Will be closer than that early but they pull away late!

Good luck!

Well after seeing scores and watching a specific game here is what I see:

1. Eastbrook- no question 

2. Ole Miss- definitely 2nd showed that tonight.

3. Oak hill- 2 big losses now can they recover?

4. Frankton- definitely believing in the system. 

5- Madison Grant- showed tonight they can play with 3-5..

6. Alexandria- poor showing tonight against Elwood drops them down.

7. Blackford- not enough bodies and to many 2way players.

8. Elwood- put a scare in Alex tonight! 

On 9/15/2021 at 12:49 PM, djbowzz said:

Don't see that happening, but, that's why they play the game.   Still a running clock to finish this game 

Blackford over MG by a couple scores. Blackford's big running back looked good against Alex. Blackford holds the penalties down they are 5th best team.

Eastbrook over Frankton with a running clock in the 2nd! Eastbrook has been impressive so far. Eastbrook was and is a well oiled machine. Frankton continues to improve and have bought in.

Alexandria over Elwood Alexandria by a bunch. Alex can score alot just cannot stop anyone. Blackford penalties won this for Alex.

Oak Hill over Ole miss this game will be close. Mistakes will determine the fate of this game.

Madison-Grant vs. Mississinewa ©, 10 am, Ball State

Alexandria vs. Blackford ©, 1 pm, Ball State

Frankton vs. Elwood ©, 4 pm, Ball State

Oak Hill vs. Eastbrook ©, 7 pm, Ball State

Ole miss wins this game big. Need to get back on teach. MG cannot stop anybody.

Alexandria wins big if they do not turn it over. Blackford has no depth nor speed. Alex has to much speed and plays on turf!

Frankton will spank Elwood bad! Frankton has responded pretty well to new coach.

Eastbrook wins this one by 21-24 but it will be closer than the score. I believe Oak Hill keeps it within 7-14 until late!

Good luck to all teams on the turf. Hopefully no major injuries! 

Definitely going with this prediction for the rest of the year:

1. Eastbrook 

2. Oak Hill

3. Ole miss

4. Alexandria 

5. MG

6. Frankton

7. Blackford

8. Elwood 

1. Eastbrook showed they are in a class of their own. 

2. Oak Hill playing well and coached well.

3. Ole Miss struggles that I do not understand.  What happen to next player up?

4. Alexandria very young and had covid issue last week. Let's see how they respond. Offense has to continue to put up points.

5.MG also very young with a short bench. Would of liked to see them play Alexandria. 

6. Frankton earned this spot against Blackford. Trending upward.

7. Blackford is reeling and needs to figure it out before it is to late.

8. Elwood is as advertised. Just cannot keep switching coaches every year. Mirales leaving youth program has killed his team.

33 minutes ago, CoachOsGhost said:

Totally agree 100% with what you are saying. This dude must be the Bishop Sycamore of CICAlum. We at Frakton love this new guy. (For now) he really takes intrest in developing the youth and yea we suck right now but we will get better. Got a solid staff and admin is one of the best admins around. Best thing he did was bring our youth together to run what he wants them to run. Now don't get me wrong I wish he would have done it with the lapel league because they really helped buy equipment for jr. High and always gave money to both Varsty programs. But I also understand his point of this is closer and gets them competing with CIC teams. 

Absolutely 100% it will take time. I wish Alexandria would do the same thing that way by the time they hit jr/Sr high they are not still learning plays! They are working on conditioning and are prepared by the time they hit h.s.

Oak Hill vs Elwood-Oak Hill by as much as they want. Will also be a shutout!

Frankton vs Blackford-Flip a coin. 2 bad teams I will take Frankton by a td!

Alexandria vs Madison Grant- would of taken Young Alex over young MG by 2 scores but heard Alex is had to go virtual learning!

Eastbrook vs ole miss- Eastbrook by 3 td's

My predictions for the year are:

1. Eastbrook- still class of cic! Very well run sports program!

2. Oak Hill- seem to have a strong group this year. Always well coached!

3. Ole miss- seem to still be adapting to new coach. Hopefully they start gelling soon!

4. Alex- very young still have to score 30+ to win! Have some talent coming up but thin at most grades.

5. Mg- very young but have some talent coming! Seem to be trending in the right direction. 

6. Frankton- trying to rebuild after the Ryan tenure. Will take multiple years to right the ship!

7. Blackford- not sure what happen to all the kids but need to figure out why numbers are down. Not just covid!

8. Elwood- The school board has personally killed their sports program! Until they bring in a new board they will stay in the basement!

That is great keep up the good work!

Ok here is what i see!

Eastbrook wins big even by resting starters more than usual 61-19. Mg has not been able to stop anyone decent this year.

Alexandria wins this one handily by 3td's! If not are they in the same situation as Frankton? I hope Alex wins better talent and better offense. Defenses are both horrible 35-14.

Ole Miss will beat a much improved Elwood but it will be ugly! Agaun Elwood cannot stop anyone. 66-20

Oak hill in a closer than the score game! Will be close till Oak hill puts up a few late scores. I will go with 36-20.

Good luck to all and hope the best for all going into sectionals in this crazy year!

1 minute ago, AG said:

Kids lives are the big picture. Football is ultimately just a game. Developing quality human beings is the ultimate goal, not winning or losing. They're not professionals. 

Absolutely agree! It is about developing human beings.  I could talk all day about being 85-6 as a jv/c coach! That is not what it is about! It is about creating strong young men who may not have that structure at home!

Eastern will give teams fits due to having some quality talent and being able to not only run but pass the ball. They will throttle Alexandria and move on!

Lapel will embarrass Frankton and prove why Frankton needs a HC change!

Tipton is solid and will move on! Elwood will not be able to stop them! Props to Elwood though on the improved effort though.

Eastbrook is still the class of the field! Tipton could put a scare in them. Also Eastern if balanced could scare them. 

This is Eastbrook's sectional to lose! They have always struggled against a balanced attack when a team has talent. Would love to see them get a state championship this year!

Alexandria has to decide where they want to head! Are they OK with where their program is at or do they fix what has not worked in recent history! Good staff but got to figure out how to fix it. Need a weight program that kids believe in. Also have to figure out how to retend more kids year after year. Lots of young talent in the 9th grade but outside of that it jumps a few grades

Frankton no question has to make a change. They have to much talent to be that bad! Need to blow up staff and start over! Same with weight program! With new field and improvements it is time to change culture!

Elwood is headed in the right direction but also like Alexandria and Frankton need a better weight program and youth football program! Give this coach 3-4 years if he stays and it will turn around!

Blackford will be back covid and being young has been tough on this program! Coaches have team on the right track! Could be tough team in next few years

Coach is a great up and comer. Maybe he is just trying to get some of his kids more experience in these trying times! Keep it up coach!

Eastern will beat Alexandria by 28.

Lapel will beat Frankton by 50+.

Tipton will beat Elwood by 42.

Eastbrook will beat Blackford by 42.

Apa isnt new just cannot get enough year after year

1 hour ago, CoachOsGhost said:

I think everyone is wanting the easy road and the Frankton draw. Great way to say you had at least 1 post season win. The best questions are who is going to challenge Eastbrook in sectional 36? Is eastern legit or just week schedule? Can lapel find a way around eastbrook? Is the former CIC team Tipton up for new conferences kingss? Who is Franktons coach next year?

All good questions! I am not sure if tipton,eastern or lapel can play with them for 4 quarters! Can a coach come up with a few gimmick plays and control the rest of the game to steal one from Eastbrook? Not sure!

Frankton has to much talent to be as bad as they have been the last few years. Time for change!

Alexandria is the same way. To much talent to continue to struggle year after year! Need some new blood and coaches who have accountability for the kids.

Elwood is on the right path but have to build up youth or this will be a sad year after year song.

Blackford is as bad as anybody with talent or lack there of year after year but have great coaches.

Ole miss has talent and just needs them to trust the coaches. Future is bright.

Oak hill same as ole miss great coaches need the trust built in!

Eastbrook sets the standard and will till Adamson retires! Nuff said!

MG needs to continue to build not far of but cannot lose kids or they are doomed!

2 hours ago, Giantbeareagle80 said:

I understand that.  I think Frankton would rather play Alexandria too.   Elwood has figured out how to score, and are getting better each week.

It Seems the last 10 years or so Frankton has found a way past the Tigers.  Even when they probably shouldn't have.

Well except last year and 14-15 year  😉 that was just due to those years for Alexandria having better talent though!