JQWL

Standings After Week 1:

PiratePride, boilerfan87-9

cloudofdust, IUFan, salemalumpres, billybob-8

Bluejacket1, PCFan1996, WWFan, oldranDL-7

JQWL-6

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On 8/13/2023 at 9:54 AM, JQWL said:

Pick 'em!

Week 1 Match-Ups 

Crawford Co. at Switzerland Co.

Eastern Greene at Springs Valley

Mitchell at Edgewood

Paoli at Boonville

Perry Central at Tell City

West Washington at Eastern Pekin 

Charlestown at Silver Creek

Clarksville at Scottsburg

Corydon at Brownstown 

Salem at North Harrison

 

I wasn't sure if you guys did a pick 'em but I do enjoy a good pick 'em

North Posey at Mount Vernon
Paoli at Boonville
Perry Central at Tell City
Pike Central at Riverton Parke
Princeton at Forest Park
Southridge at Heritage Hills
Tecumseh at South Spencer
Washington at North Daviess

Boyle County Kentucky vs. Gibson Southern

1 minute ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

who do they scrimmage? 

Southridge I believe.

Hopefully you do so I can take an early lead.

Pick 'em!

Week 1 Match-Ups 

Crawford Co. at Switzerland Co.

Eastern Greene at Springs Valley

Mitchell at Edgewood

Paoli at Boonville

Perry Central at Tell City

West Washington at Eastern Pekin 

Charlestown at Silver Creek

Clarksville at Scottsburg

Corydon at Brownstown 

Salem at North Harrison

2 hours ago, Titan32 said:

It has absolutely nothing to do with our opponent, and how we have handled this "game" over the last 12 years.  This event is so worthless that we use it as an opportunity to get a look at our younger players and tweeners.  Imagine getting a starter hurt at this silly thing.

So would you also prefer replacing the scrimmage with a 10th regular season game?

2 hours ago, Titan32 said:

The IHSAA scrimmage does less for us than our intra-squad scrimmage.  Our starters will play (8 offense 8 defensive) plays at our IHSAA scrimmage regardless if our opponent likes that or not.

Probably need to look into finding a different scrimmage opponent then.

2 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

I would like to hear your reasoning for this. 

I don't like this idea, because I don't think 10 practices is enough to prepare a player for a full 48 minute game. At least one that "counts" in a W/L sense.   There are 387 basketball shootouts and 127 baseball tournaments over the summer, so some teams really don't have a full roster until Practice day 1.

Several Evansville schools give the last week of July off to hit the ground running on the first practice day.  But I still saw plenty of football players take that week to play one last AAU tournament or baseball showcase. 

If the season were extended an additional game, it should come in October, not August. 

I agree 10 practices wouldn't be enough if you didn't have the summer to prepare. All these schools are scrimmaging all summer. They have their stuff installed already. Kids have been conditioning for months. Do we really need a pre-season game? I don't feel like we do. If it were 1997 and all you did in the summer was lift and condition, then it would be different. Even the schools that gave their kids off the last week of July, probably just completed a camp and finished it with an 11 on 11 with 3 other schools.

2 hours ago, NorthKnox94 said:

North Knox has a nice indoor facility also...used by many different sports including football...I think Nknox has a lot higher ceiling then NP...just from picture that you posted!

North Knox's facilities are super impressive for any school, anywhere, any size. Your superintendent must be outstanding.

Just now, MarshallCounty said:

No, we already expanded the season multiple times over the years. 2 week camp before scrimmage is a great measuring stick, and then a new week leading up to the first game. No sense in rushing kids back to play in the heat of August. We give up the scrimmage, in a couple years the coaches will want another scrimmage before the first new week.  

So you have a problem playing a game in the heat of August 11th but are ok with an official scrimmage August 11th?

If we give up the scrimmage, we don't have to worry about coaches wanting another scrimmage because they have already had 2-3 scrimmages during June and July(in the heat) and probably a couple 7 on 7's. They probably had an intersquad game last weekend also.

Since we are risking injury tomorrow, I'd rather it be in a game than a scrimmage. Kids really don't get many games. Having one less fake game and one more real game would be an improvement.

I may have missed someone else mentioning it but I want to eliminate the official scrimmage and replace it with an additional regular season game.

I don't believe we do. I've seen YouTube videos in the past where kids have done single basketball games. Maybe it was for a class.

Does anyone know where in the Indianapolis area I can buy one? In previous years I've always got it from the Greenwood Barnes and Noble and they haven't seen it yet. Any guidance before I head home from the state fair would be appreciated.

The update that was promised.

Honestly I think our varsity guys have done a nice job this summer. They've really worked hard. It seems like we are young because of only having 1 senior in Trey Rominger but our juniors had to play a lot last year and that that experience has shown in practice.

Offensively:

OL-Last year to begin the season we started 4 seniors and 1 sophomore on the line but due to injures by the end of the season we had 1 senior and 4 sophomores starting. Juniors Jaxson Reynolds started all 11 games last year, Peyton Baker 7 games, Ian Drake 6 games, Coy Busick 5 games Oscar Lewellyn 2 games and we have Juniors Jeremiah Hutcheson and Jareth Nunez. I would expect our O-line will consist of 5 of these 7. At last night's scrimmage we started Reynolds, Baker, Drake, Busick and rotated Nunez and Hutch at the LT spot. Overall we did a lot of good things last night. Need to finish blocks a little better, be more physical but it was a good way to start. 

QB-We graduated all-conference QB Braxton Elliott from last year. Junior Fletcher Cole, who was all-conference last year saw some time at QB last year but was mainly a WR/Slot. He has had the majority of the reps at QB during the summer with Sophomore Cooper Spires getting the second most. These two are different. Cole is a bigger, stronger athlete who runs the ball well while Spires throws the ball a little better. They're both fairly versatile and it wouldn't surprise me to see them used at the same time.

FB-Senior Trey Rominger is 2-time all-conference and a junior all-state kid. He ran for over 1,900 last season and I'd expect him to be our fullback. He didn't carry it a ton in the scrimmage but ran well when he did. 

WR-We return our two starting WR's from last year in Juniors William Baker and Garrett Hickman. Neither had many catches last year because we didn't really throw the ball much at all. Both look more physical as they should being a year older and more confident. Junior Ashton Jones has been rotating in as well and has made a big jump physically in the past year. Hopefully we are able to get them the ball some this year.

Slotback-We graduated our two starting slotbacks from last year and Cole was our 3rd so we don't return much experience here. We have literally played 7 different kids in this spot this summer and it could be juniors Hickman and Isiah Apple. Sophomores, Dane Padgett, Treighlin Minton, Coen Brace, Tyler Hannon, Spires. Padgett is the biggest athlete in the group but honestly, I don't know who will start or if it will matter much because I do think it will be by committee, especially early. Padgett, Minton, Brace all had some nice runs last night and Hickman and Apple have looked good running the ball in practice. 

Defensively:

DL-It was kinda the same situation as the offensive line where we had to play a lot of sophomores last year due to injury. Lewellyn, and Busick played a lot and Hutcheson, Drake, Baker all rotated in a lot last year. I really think this year it will be the same group of 5 kids playing those 3 spots. 

LB-We graduated two all-conference LBs in Camron Meehan and Austin Benales but bring back ILB Rominger and OLB Reynolds who were also all-conference.  Last night we started Apple at the other OLB and Nunez at ILB. Brace and Hannon have been rotating in at ILB and I'm not sure we have settled in at who will be the guy there yet. Apple started every game at CB last year but looks comfortable in his new spot. Padgett has had some reps at OLB as well. 

DB-We graduated Elliott and all-conference DB Brandon Cook but bring back Cole at CB. Hickman has been playing the other CB and had some experience late last season and looks much more comfortable in coverage and coming up to tackle. It seems like we have had a rotation of Baker, Minton, Spires at safety. 

That's all I can think of. We only had the 1 scrimmage this summer because the one we had scheduled before dead week got rained out so we don't have a ton of data to look at.

Really looking forward to getting the season started. I think just about everyone on our schedule will be improved. Boonville lost their QB but bring back quite a bit. Their JV was impressive last year and Coach Ward does a nice job. Valley will be much better as well. Their junior/senior group has been good since they were in youth and they have a nice combination of size and skill guys. PC returns their all-state RB and they always have linemen. WW brings back Chase and some good skill guys too. Eastern Greene bring back James Lewis and Peyton Lewis. Their QB is solid and their line is huge. CC really likes their sophomore group and should be better. Mitchell improved more throughout the season than anyone we saw. Corydon lost 3 guys they really depended on and with a small senior group and new coaching staff, they will have some work to do but I thought they physically had good size when we saw them yesterday. Lot of potential there. I unfortunately don't know much about North Knox's personnel but we have struggled with them the last two seasons. Hopefully we can figure them out. Going to be a fun season!

37 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Against who 

Tell City, Princeton, and Corydon Central. 

41 minutes ago, WWFan said:

Agree on those 2. Just worry about their frames and that style. Cress being the returning rusher (not counting QB Chase) at around 300 yds. I think someone gets moved as McCoy plays alot of WR too. Maybe Hayden Morrow moves back to RB (listed as WR as a freshman last year) where he played in JR high but he also has a very small frame. Im sure they got a plan. As for defense I agree on replacing roberts will be tough. He's a good push rusher too. I do think the return of Landon Holloway from injury will be a great boost too. My biggest scrimmage attention will be who starts at OT/DE and which guys are first in rotation for them on lines. Hopefully some of the sophomores are ready out of Tussy, brookover, and Harts. Lowery does a great job of always rotating lineman and getting them playing time. Be fun to see how it plays out. Where's @JQWL with a paoli update? 🤣

How about I give an update this weekend? We have an 11 on 11 Friday and I should have something to write about.

13 hours ago, Titan32 said:

PAC returning All-Conference Football Players:

Pocket Athletic Conference Large School Division

Boonville: Stihl Scott (OL), Marques Ballard (WR/DB)

Gibson Southern: Tanner Boyd (Offensive captain), Teagan Baker (C), Jackson Adams (OL), Sean DeLong (RB/WR/OLB), Brody Klem (DL), Beau Rose (LB), Mason Scheller (DB)

Heritage Hills: Seth Deom (K), Braydon Durham (LB), Jett Goldsberry (LB), Preston Coop (DB)

Mount Vernon: Nicot Burnett (QB)

Princeton: Hayden Gilmore (P)

Washington: Ruben Gutierrez (OL)

Honorable Mention:

Nate Aldrich (Washington)(CB, WR), Jackson Clowers (Mount Vernon)(WR, OLB), Grant Doherty (Mount Vernon)(K), Brady Schickel (Mount Vernon)(DE, WR), Colton Lippe (Mount Vernon)(RB, OLB), Ethan Smith (Boonville)(RB, OLB)

Pocket Athletic Conference Small School Division

Forest Park: Reece Wolf (K), Tyler Fetter (DL), Jaxon Lueken (LB), Joel Bueltel (DB), Cade Bayer (P)

North Posey: Liam Stone (Offensive captain), Caige Christie (C), Jackson Graff (CB, WR), Jed Galvin (At-Large), Gavin Myers (DL)

Pike Central: All Graduated

Southridge: Carter Harris (OLB, TE), Yamil Arroyo (RB, OLB), Blake Taylor (G, OLB), Myles Kerkhoff (RB, SS)

South Spencer: Addison Barnett (G, DT), Isaac Wittman (OL), Kyle Olmstead (WR, CB)

Tell City: Noah Terry (RB, SS), Kaiden Casebolt (LB, RB)

Honorable Mention:

Trent Cail (Tell City)(RB), Kalob Egan (North Posey)(G), Jace Gauer (North Posey)(RB), Kaleb Herke (North Posey)(K), Garin Kenney (South Spencer)(QB, CB), Caydan Leisman (Forest Park)(G, DE), Kaedyn Stewart (North Posey)(WR)
 

How many All-Conference selections does the PAC give out?

3 minutes ago, JQWL said:

I don't believe PC was a member of the SW 7. I'm 40 and they have been in the PLAC for as long as I can remember.

According to a Google search. Perry Central opened in 1962 and were a founding member of the PLAC in 1979. Not sure what conference affiliation they had during those first 17 years.

7 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

Was  Perry Central a former Southwest 7 member? Back when Linton was Class A and Wood Memorial had a team? 

They always seemed to come west back then and now the PLAC sends them more SE Indiana. 

I don't believe PC was a member of the SW 7. I'm 40 and they have been in the PLAC for as long as I can remember.

3 minutes ago, Cappy said:

Depending on year it could be Pike Central getting "bumped" up, them and SR are real close in enrollment. 

SR already plays GS, HH, and Boonville not sure what the benefit for them to change divisions would be?

Oh, I never said there would be a benefit for Southridge. I just think Perry Central fits well in the PAC.

Serious statement, I've always thought Perry Central would fit in real well with the Small PAC division. All their games except for Pike Central would be an easy drive on 64. Would still have Tell City as a rival. More opponents would be on Central Time Zone than what they have in the PLAC.

Then Southridge would get bumped up to the big division.

11 minutes ago, Cappy said:

I've never seen it posted, usually the SR post are about how they should be in the Big School division because the Little School division doesn't offer them enough competition. 

I think Southridge should play in the Big school division. The Little school division doesn't offer enough competition.

Not to change the subject because I'm glad Coach Messmer if feeling good and is refreshed and ready to go. 

Does anyone have photos of how the Hatchet Hallow renovation is coming?

1 hour ago, WWFan said:

Who? Name em!! Haha

I actually set it up with Lamar's mom. Which ever team he plays for is coming in to get some work in.