National Top 100 - December 4

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1.    Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (12-0)
2.    Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (11-1)
3.    Milton (GA) (13-0)
4.    Duncanville (TX) (12-0)
5.    Houston (TX) North Shore (13-0)
6.    Fort Worth (TX) North Crowley (13-0)   
7.    Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (11-2)
8.    Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (11-2) 
9.    Humble (TX) Atascocita (12-1)
10.    Carrollton (GA) (13-0)
11.    Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy (7-3)         
12.    Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding (12-0)     
13.    Buford (GA) (12-1)  
14.    Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (6-2)  
15.    DeSoto (TX) (11-2)    
16.    Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (10-3)       
17.    Southlake (TX) Carroll (13-0)
18.    Corona (CA) Centennial (9-3)   
19.    Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (11-1)  
20.    Mission Viejo (CA) (10-1) 
21.    Lakeland (FL) (11-0) 
22.    Concord (CA) De LaSalle (11-0) 
23.    Venice (FL) (12-1) 
24.    Austin (TX) Westlake (12-1)  
25.    Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (10-1)      
26.    East St. Louis (IL) (13-1)
27.    Leesburg (GA) Lee County (13-0) 
28.    Orange (CA) Lutheran (8-4)  
29.    Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (13-1)  
30.    Bryant (AR) (12-0)
31.    Chattanooga (TN) Baylor (12-0)      
32.    Folsom (CA) (11-1)
33.    Miami (FL) Central (7-1)      
34.    Greensboro (NC) Grimsley (13-0)  
35.    Houston (TX) Summer Creek (11-2)      
36.    Norfolk (VA) Maury (13-0)  
37.    Saraland (AL) (13-0)   
38.    Aledo (TX) (12-1)  
39.    Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (10-2) 
40.    Peoria (AZ) Liberty (11-1) 
41.    Plantation (FL) American Heritage (8-4)       
42.    Matthews (NC) Weddington (12-0)
43.    Avon (OH) (15-0)
44.    Chandler (AZ) Basha (11-1) 
45.    Loganville (GA) Grayson (11-1) 
46.    Anderson (SC) Westside (12-0) 
47.    Nashville (TN) Christ Presbyterian Academy (13-0)  
48.    Rock Hill (SC) Northwestern (12-0)
49.    Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller (14-1)  
50.    Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (12-0)
51.    Midwest City (OK) Carl Albert (12-0)
52.    Cocoa (FL) (9-3) 
53.    Allen (TX) (13-0)
54.    New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr (11-0) 
55.    Wyndmoor (PA) La Salle College (10-1)   
56.    Wayne (NJ) DePaul Catholic (11-1)
57.    Greensboro (NC) Dudley (13-0)
58.    Austin (TX) Lake Travis (12-1)
59.    Tupelo (MS) (13-0)
60.    Martinsburg (WV) (12-0) 
61.    Katy (TX) (11-2)         
62.    Highland (UT) Lone Peak (11-3) 
63.    Owasso (OK) (12-0) 
64.    Orlando (FL) Jones (12-0)
65.    Columbia (SC) Irmo (11-1)
66.    Auburn (AL) (10-1)
67.    Clearwater (FL) Central Catholic (10-2)         
68.    Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (12-3) 
69.    Princeton (NJ) Hun (9-1)  
70.    Toledo (OH) Central Catholic (14-1) 
71.    Greenwood (CO) Cherry Creek (12-1) 
72.    Coppell (TX) (12-1)  
73.    Fairbanks (GA) Langston Hughes (12-1)
74.    Miami (FL) Norland (9-3)     
75.    Baton Rouge (LA) Catholic (10-1)
76.    Massillon (OH) Washington (11-3)   
77.    Lehi (UT) Skybridge (10-3)
78.    Seattle (WA) O’Dea (12-0)
79.    Austin (TX) Vandegrift (12-1)
80.    Louisville (KY) Trinity (12-2)
81.    Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (12-2)
82.    Cuyahoga Falls (OH) Walsh Jesuit (13-1)   
83.    Danville (KY) Boyle County (11-1)       
84.    Nixa (MO) (13-0)
85.    Pittsburgh (PA) Central Catholic (12-2)
86.    Chattanooga (TN) McCallie (10-2)
87.    Birmingham (AL) Parker (13-1)
88.    Chandler (AZ) Hamilton (10-2)    
89.    Suwannee (GA) North Gwinnett (12-1) 
90.    Brownsburg (IN) (13-1)
91.    Omaha (NE) Millard South (11-1)
92.    Hattiesburg (MS) (13-0)            
93.    Oxford (AL) (13-1) 
94.    Denton (TX) Ryan (12-1)
95.    Hickory (NC) (13-0)
96.    Dallas (TX) Highland Park (12-1)
97.    West Linn (OR) (11-1)
98.    Queen Creek (AZ) American Leadership Academy (10-2)  
99.    Powell (OH) Olentangy Liberty (13-2)
100.    Detroit (MI) Cass Tech (12-2)
 

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1 hour ago, whiteshoes said:

80.    Louisville (KY) Trinity (12-2)
81.    Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (12-2)
82.    Cuyahoga Falls (OH) Walsh Jesuit (13-1)   
83.    Danville (KY) Boyle County (11-1)       
84.    Nixa (MO) (13-0)
85.    Pittsburgh (PA) Central Catholic (12-2)
86.    Chattanooga (TN) McCallie (10-2)
87.    Birmingham (AL) Parker (13-1)
88.    Chandler (AZ) Hamilton (10-2)    
89.    Suwannee (GA) North Gwinnett (12-1) 
90.    Brownsburg (IN) (13-1)
 

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19 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

Don't forget Baltimore St. Francis Academy currently ranked 11th in the country.

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13 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

Don't forget Baltimore St. Francis Academy currently ranked 11th in the country.

I could be mistaken but I am not sure that is the point he was making.

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1 hour ago, whiteshoes said:

Don't forget Baltimore St. Francis Academy currently ranked 11th in the country.

Baltimore St. Francis Academy is well worth being ranked at 11th.

I am just more curious why Louisville Trinity (having lost to Center Grove in Louisville) is ranked above Brownsburg (who beat CG at CG).

Having stated that I know it is tough to compile a Top 100 nationally.

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4 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

Baltimore St. Francis Academy is well worth being ranked at 11th.

I am just more curious why Louisville Trinity (having lost to Center Grove in Louisville) is ranked above Brownsburg (who beat CG at CG).

Having stated that I know it is tough to compile a Top 100 nationally.

Just feel that Trinity has been more decisive in their recent wins.  I try not to "daisy chain" teams because it would lead to total chaos.   I look at and rank teams based on their current level of play.

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12 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

Just feel that Trinity has been more decisive in their recent wins.  I try not to "daisy chain" teams because it would lead to total chaos.   I look at and rank teams based on their current level of play.

I understand how difficult it is doing a Top 100 Nationally.

I just can not under any circumstance get behind Trinity (KY) being ranked above Brownsburg (IN). Maybe I am just far to familiar with the Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky football to get behind it.

Trinity's best win was over a 10-4 St. Xavier (OH) team in Louisville 7-3, the same St. X team that Cathedral lost to 35-31 on a last minute drive. However Trinity lost to a 8-5 Center Grove 24-10 in Louisville. 

Trinity (#378 Freeman ratings) in the Kentucky 6A playoffs has beaten: (#11247)Southern (2-9) 63-0, (#3593) Fern Creek (6-6) 45-0, (#1999) Ballard (6-7) 35-21, and (#755) Frederick Douglass (9-5) 17-0. They play (#324) Ryle (12-2) for the 6A State Championship. Trinity is 12-2 with losses to (#128) Center Grove and (#928) St. Xavier (KY) their rival. Trinity's opponents this year are 92-80.

Brownsburg (#28 Freeman Ratings) in the Indiana 6A playoffs has beaten: (#633) Avon (3-7) {Rivalry} 21-13, (#375) Ben Davis (5-6) 38-35, (#54) Lawrence North 22-21, (#128) Center Grove 31-27, (#56) Westfield 22-17 in the 6A State Championship. Brownsburg finished 13-1 with their lone loss being to (#372) Hamilton Southeastern. Brownsburg's opponents this year are 92-69.

That has been an impressive run through the playoffs against some pretty solid teams even if they were close games. Just my 2 cents 

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1 hour ago, FastpacedO said:

I understand how difficult it is doing a Top 100 Nationally.

I just can not under any circumstance get behind Trinity (KY) being ranked above Brownsburg (IN). Maybe I am just far to familiar with the Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky football to get behind it.

Trinity's best win was over a 10-4 St. Xavier (OH) team in Louisville 7-3, the same St. X team that Cathedral lost to 35-31 on a last minute drive. However Trinity lost to a 8-5 Center Grove 24-10 in Louisville. 

Trinity (#378 Freeman ratings) in the Kentucky 6A playoffs has beaten: (#11247)Southern (2-9) 63-0, (#3593) Fern Creek (6-6) 45-0, (#1999) Ballard (6-7) 35-21, and (#755) Frederick Douglass (9-5) 17-0. They play (#324) Ryle (12-2) for the 6A State Championship. Trinity is 12-2 with losses to (#128) Center Grove and (#928) St. Xavier (KY) their rival. Trinity's opponents this year are 92-80.

Brownsburg (#28 Freeman Ratings) in the Indiana 6A playoffs has beaten: (#633) Avon (3-7) {Rivalry} 21-13, (#375) Ben Davis (5-6) 38-35, (#54) Lawrence North 22-21, (#128) Center Grove 31-27, (#56) Westfield 22-17 in the 6A State Championship. Brownsburg finished 13-1 with their lone loss being to (#372) Hamilton Southeastern. Brownsburg's opponents this year are 92-69.

That has been an impressive run through the playoffs against some pretty solid teams even if they were close games. Just my 2 cents 

I need more help with Ohio than Kentucky.    As yesterday's Baylor-McCallie game reminds us that a one-game analysis can leave a lot to be desired.   I guess I soured on Brownsburg with the loss at HSE and close games with Ben Davis and Avon.   In fact, I had Westfield top-ranked in our state and in my Top 100 and feel that if Westfield's coach had better time management skills, they could have possibly managed to win the 6A title game last Friday.   BTW, Trinity beat Carmel.    Oops, forget that last comment.

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52 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

I need more help with Ohio than Kentucky.    As yesterday's Baylor-McCallie game reminds us that a one-game analysis can leave a lot to be desired.   I guess I soured on Brownsburg with the loss at HSE and close games with Ben Davis and Avon.   In fact, I had Westfield top-ranked in our state and in my Top 100 and feel that if Westfield's coach had better time management skills, they could have possibly managed to win the 6A title game last Friday.   BTW, Trinity beat Carmel.    Oops, forget that last comment.

When it comes to the HHC it can be very unpredictable. Hamilton Southeastern was no slouch, the Brownsburg loss to HSE was disappointing but in all honesty not surprising with what we have seen in the HCC lately.

Any close game between Avon and Brownsburg never surprises me because it is a bitter rivalry. While Ben Davis ended 5-6 they were finding their mojo at the end of the season. Ben Davis was a monkey on Brownsburg's back that they finally dropped.

Yes Westfield was very capable of winning both times they played Brownsburg, but Brownsburg persevered. That was going to be a battle no matter how you looked at it.

Yeah I know Trinity beat (#1,253) Carmel which would have been a solid win any other year but this year. Carmel just wasn't that good this year at 3-7. Their loss to Brebeuf solidified to me that they were not going to do anything this year. They have brought back a solid Head Coach in Kevin Wright, so we will see what they look like next year.

Don't let my posts come off the wrong way. I respect your Top 100 and know how difficult it is to focus nationally. I just couldn't get behind Trinity over Brownsburg. I actually feel the top 4 in Brownsburg's conference would do very well against Trinity. From Indiana I think this year Brownsburg, Westfield, Lawrence North, and Cathedral would all beat Trinity (Center Grove already did). I would not say that is the case every year though.

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2 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

When it comes to the HHC it can be very unpredictable. Hamilton Southeastern was no slouch, the Brownsburg loss to HSE was disappointing but in all honesty not surprising with what we have seen in the HCC lately.

Any close game between Avon and Brownsburg never surprises me because it is a bitter rivalry. While Ben Davis ended 5-6 they were finding their mojo at the end of the season. Ben Davis was a monkey on Brownsburg's back that they finally dropped.

Yes Westfield was very capable of winning both times they played Brownsburg, but Brownsburg persevered. That was going to be a battle no matter how you looked at it.

Yeah I know Trinity beat (#1,253) Carmel which would have been a solid win any other year but this year. Carmel just wasn't that good this year at 3-7. Their loss to Brebeuf solidified to me that they were not going to do anything this year. They have brought back a solid Head Coach in Kevin Wright, so we will see what they look like next year.

Don't let my posts come off the wrong way. I respect your Top 100 and know how difficult it is to focus nationally. I just couldn't get behind Trinity over Brownsburg. I actually feel the top 4 in Brownsburg's conference would do very well against Trinity. From Indiana I think this year Brownsburg, Westfield, Lawrence North, and Cathedral would all beat Trinity (Center Grove already did). I would not say that is the case every year though.

Kentucky high school fans would probably argue that point with you, although I am sure that they would agree that this was not Kentucky's best year.    Boyle County looked like an outlier early on and then the surprising upset to Covington Catholic blew that notion out of the water.   Trinity basically defaulted to the top team in the state due to the fact that everyone else kept losing.   Male, DuPont Manual, and St. Xavier kept losing games that they should have won.    It could get interesting this weekend as Trinity plays a very good Union Ryle team.   However, even with all that said, I still have a hard time buying Brownsburg anywhere above the 80-90 range.    To show you how tough this can be, I watched the Alabaster Thompson-Phenix City Cental game Wednesday night and in my opinion, both would beat Brownsburg, and neither are rated.   There will be a lot of changes over the next several weeks as states wind up their seasons.