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Sorry you can't keep up with a conversation progression......My bad......

Fair? - NO. Justifiable? - They tried......and failed (IMHO) https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-met-illinois-senate-gas-tax-hike-20190508-story.html The legislation, introduced this week by Democratic Sen. Martin Sandoval of Chicago, would more than double the state’s gas tax to 44 cents a gallon, double the driver’s license fee to $60 and raise the vehicle registration fee to $148. The driver’s license fee is now $30; the vehicle registration fee is $98. It also would significantly hike the registration fee for electric vehicles, from $17.50 to $1,000. Greater fuel efficiency and an increasing number of electric vehicles on the road has cut into the revenue available to the state to fix transportation infrastructure. In addition, in an effort to provide a stable source of transportation funding, the gas tax and registration fees could continue to creep up every year under a formula tied to the rate of inflation. Sandoval said his plan would raise an estimated $2.4 billion in annual transportation funding for Illinois. Illinois’ gas tax has been 19 cents per gallon since 1990, and the state’s last large-scale infrastructure improvement program was approved a decade ago. Seriously - They are trying to do things to cut emissions, save the planet, incentive's like using the subway, but the minute something like EV's gains some traction, let's tax it more, because we lose revenue somewhere else.......

Found another Trigger.......

SF never said it did. The article indicates that the AG assigned Durham to "examine the origins of the Russia investigation" My point was that his investigation (IMHO) could possibly expose some of the wrongdoings that led up to the Russia investigation, and the left (perhaps) wants to get ahead of it by discrediting Barr before it even gets going, and by proxy discredit Mr. Durham. "Guilty by association" BTW - Barr wasn't a "partisan hack" until the day he became the AG appointed by DJT. Much like John H. Durham. A distinguished US attorney that has served as a special prosecutor for both party's AG's in the past. Historically regarded by both parties as one of the best - Now he will most likely become a racist, homophobic, sexist, whatever now..... SF thinks it is amazing how the terms wiretap, spying, surveillance, etc. were so discounted and nullified after the election as never occurring, yet the Mueller report has documented incidents of those various activities in it. What surprises me is that Nadler thinks he needs to see more? Actually (IMHO) he doesn't - He just wants to poke holes in Barr's and now Durham's credibility.

Sarcasm? I thought she was kidding about the 12 years thing and all....... https://www.chicksonright.com/opinion/2019/05/14/days-after-claiming-she-was-kidding-ocasio-cortez-goes-on-unhinged-rant-about-end-of-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR1CMe-hucCHu-Cxe9h4CCA8i6Lsv84xj61TqWrdgg35-qUmzrfaUA7DGT0 So… is that a joke? Orrr?

Yep - body count IS a factor in this equation....... The heroics of young Mr. Castillo certainly deserved a little more attention (IMHO). I mean so far it has been good, but that kid deserves a lot. Great topic Gonzo. Punish the parents as well when there is obvious fault by not securing weapons. From a lawyer's perspective for the parents I suppose that's easier said than done though.

I was referring to you sir.....

At the very least an attempt to discredit Mr. Barr before the next phase comes..... .https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/us/politics/russia-investigation-justice-department-review.html WASHINGTON — Attorney General William P. Barr has assigned the top federal prosecutor in Connecticut to examine the origins of the Russia investigation, according to two people familiar with the matter, a move that President Trump has long called for but that could anger law enforcement officials who insist that scrutiny of the Trump campaign was lawful. John H. Durham, the United States attorney in Connecticut, has a history of serving as a special prosecutor investigating potential wrongdoing among national security officials, including the F.B.I.’s ties to a crime boss in Boston and accusations of C.I.A. abuses of detainees. His inquiry is the third known investigation focused on the opening of an F.B.I. counterintelligence investigation during the 2016 presidential campaign into possible ties between Russia’s election interference and Trump associates. The department’s inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, is separately examining investigators’ use of wiretap applications and informants and whether any political bias against Mr. Trump influenced investigative decisions. And John W. Huber, the United States attorney in Utah, has been reviewing aspects of the Russia investigation. His findings have not been announced. Additionally on Capitol Hill, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina and chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has said he, too, intends to review aspects of law enforcement’s work in the coming months. And Republicans conducted their own inquiries when they controlled the House, including publicizing details of the F.B.I.’s wiretap use. Thomas Carson, a spokesman for Mr. Durham’s office, declined to comment, as did a spokeswoman for the Justice Department. “I do have people in the department helping me review the activities over the summer of 2016,” Mr. Barr said in congressional testimony on May 1, without elaborating. Mr. Durham, who was nominated by Mr. Trump in 2017 and has been a Justice Department lawyer since 1982, has conducted special investigations under administrations of both parties. Attorney General Janet Reno asked Mr. Durham in 1999 to investigate the F.B.I.’s handling of a notorious informant: the organized crime leader James (Whitey) Bulger. In 2008, Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey assigned Mr. Durham to investigate the C.I.A.’s destruction of videotapes in 2005 showing the torture of terrorism suspects. A year later, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. expanded Mr. Durham’s mandate to also examine whether the agency broke any laws in its abuses of detainees in its custody. Mr. Barr has signaled his concerns about the Russia investigationduring congressional testimony, particularly the surveillance of Trump associates. “I think spying did occur,” he said. “The question is whether it was adequately predicated. And I’m not suggesting that it wasn’t adequately predicated. But I need to explore that.” His use of the term “spying” to describe court-authorized surveillance aimed at understanding a foreign government’s interference in the election touched off criticism that he was echoing politically charged accusations by Mr. Trump and his Republican allies that the F.B.I. unfairly targeted the Trump campaign. Last week, the F.B.I. director, Christopher A. Wray, defended the bureau, saying he was unaware of any illegal surveillance and refused to call agents’ work “spying.” Former F.B.I. and Justice Department officials have defended the genesis of the investigation, saying it was properly predicated. Yet Mr. Durham’s role — essentially giving him a special assignment but no special powers — also appeared aimed at sidestepping the rare appointment of another special counsel like Robert S. Mueller III, a role that allows greater day-to-day independence. Mr. Trump and House Republicans have long pushed senior Justice Department officials to appoint one to investigate the president’s perceived political enemies and why Mr. Trump’s associates were under surveillance. Mr. Trump’s calls to investigate the investigators have grown after the findings from Mr. Mueller were revealed last month. Mr. Mueller’s investigators cited “insufficient evidence” to determine that the president or his advisers engaged in a criminal conspiracy with Russia. The Mueller report reaffirmed that the F.B.I. opened its investigationbased on legitimate factors, including revelations that a Trump campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, had told a diplomat from Australia, a close American ally, that he was informed that the Russians had stolen Democratic emails. “It would have been highly, highly inappropriate for us not to pursue it — and pursue it aggressively,” James Baker, who was the F.B.I.’s general counsel in 2016, said in an interview on Friday with the Lawfare podcast. As part of the early Russia inquiry, the F.B.I. investigated four Trump associates: Mr. Papadopoulos; Paul Manafort, the Trump campaign chairman; Michael T. Flynn, the president’s first national security adviser; and Carter Page, another campaign foreign policy adviser. Mr. Flynn and Mr. Papadopoulos later pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. as part of the inquiry; Mr. Manafort was also convicted of tax fraud and other charges brought by the special counsel, who took over the investigation in May 2017, and pleaded guilty to conspiracy. F.B.I. agents and federal prosecutors also obtained approval from the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to wiretap Mr. Page after he left the campaign. Mr. Trump’s allies have pointed to the warrant as major evidence that law enforcement officials were abusing their authority, but the investigation was opened based on separate information and the warrant was one small aspect in a sprawling inquiry that grew to include more than 2,800 subpoenas, nearly 500 search warrants and about 500 witness interviews. Law enforcement officials have also drawn intense criticism for using an informant — a typical investigative step — to secretly report on Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos after they left the campaign and for relying on Democrat-funded opposition research compiled into a dossier by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer who was also an F.B.I. informant. Investigators cited the dossier in a lengthy footnote in its application for permission to wiretap Mr. Page, alerting the court that the person who commissioned Mr. Steele’s research was “likely looking for information to discredit” the Trump campaign. The inspector general is said to be examining whether law enforcement officials intentionally misled the intelligence court, which also approved three renewals of the warrant. The last application in June 2017 was signed by Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, who defended the decision last month in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. Mr. Horowitz is also said to be scrutinizing how the F.B.I. handled Mr. Steele and another informant, Stefan A. Halper, an American academic who taught in Britain. Agents asked Mr. Halper to determine whether Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos were in contact with Russians. Mr. Barr has said the inspector general could finish his inquiry in May or June. Mr. Durham is also investigating whether Mr. Baker made unauthorized disclosures to the news media, according to two House Republicans closely allied with Mr. Trump, Representatives Jim Jordan of Ohio and Mark Meadows of North Carolina, who disclosed in a letter to Mr. Durham in January that they had learned of that inquiry. While they implied that it was related to the Russia investigation, another witness in Mr. Durham’s inquiry into Mr. Baker, Robert Litt, the former general counsel of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, came forward to say that he had been interviewed and that the investigation has nothing to do with Russia. Mr. Baker said last week that he was confident he had done nothing wrong and would be exonerated. SF posted the entire article should you feel compelled to read it, but underlined and highlighted the sections pertinent to my opening sentence. In closing - the excrement is going to hit the air propulsion device.......

Yeah - SF is wrong again....... However - Notice the dates on the stories......all from last week...... Nothing substantial this week. Again - this GROUP of shooters (two survivors) does not fit the prototype "conservative, straight male, stars and bars" kind of shooter the MSM wants to cover with any effort....... Again - while I am glad there is not grandiose coverage of these losers, (unlike normal) I can't help but notice how fast this has disappeared. School shootings W. The thread is about school shooting. (IMHO) The "Theme" SF (not speaking for IO) would tap on would be the "school shooter has to fit in the prototype category" to back a gun control narrative. But when the shooter(s) turns out to be a bullied, or marginalized person, then a "some people did something" narrative (hat tip to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar) is put out, then the story can fade, or blame placed elsewhere - like the school system. Referencing your last comment (outside of school shootings) - (IMHO) the majority of black on black shootings would most likely be related to gangs. Violence of that sort has certainly become commonplace in Chicago and I suppose Indy.

"Triggered"

Shivvvver.......

Your point has validity......until you notice the (s) plurals that were placed everywhere in my post......and the "group" reference may have been aimed only at the 16 yo.......

One of the funniest guys ever. RIP. https://www.npr.org/2019/05/14/714010693/tim-conway-who-relished-the-role-of-comedic-co-star-dies-at-85

Again - Not a "Legal Beagle" but - this sounds pretty legitimate......

18 is a minor? - (yeah, one is a 16 yo) https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/colorado-shooting-suspect-denounced-all-these-christians-who-hate-gays On his now-deleted Facebook account, Devon Erickson, 18, posted: "You know what I hate? All these Christians who hate gays, yet in the bible, it says in Deuteronomy 17:12-13, if someone doesn’t do what their priest tells them to do, they are supposed to die. It has plenty of crazy stuff like that. But all they get out of it is ‘ewwwwww gays.' The other suspect in the shooting, which left one dead and seven wounded, has been identified as in court documents as Maya McKinney, a 16-year-old female who identifies as a transgender male and prefers to be called Alec.

Maybe this will shed some light as to why the MSM is so silent about the shooters......This is from a UK paper - Google "Colorado school shooter father illegal alien" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7012485/Father-Colorado-school-shooter-Alec-McKinney-serial-felon-illegal-immigrant.html?fbclid=IwAR2OnCmvKI9o0UFocR0dq3bv7upXv3TFd5s12pYT0BBPXwNwC-Ha4fSaOiA This group of kid shooters really sound troubled. So it couldn't have been their fault. I mean really these kids are not the "prototype" shooter the MSM likes to cover.

I agree W - my comment was referring to Mayor Pete's "generational" comment because I immediately felt he most likely knew or at least one of his staff knew the reference and his attempt was to distinguish the ages. I think it may have backfired, though since he had to admit something he didn't know.......I still think the reference is pretty funny though. Mayor Pete should have run with it somehow and tried to get a little mileage. (IMHO). Again, as I have said before, he's incredibly smart, but I have been disappointed in his campaign so far.......