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11 hours ago, NRRaider2001 said:

Wawasee named their new head football coach tonight. 

"Very excited about the future of Wawasee Football...tonight Coach Jon Reutebuch takes the reins of the program! Let's go Warriors!"

Article related to it http://www.inkfreenews.com/2019/02/20/reutebuch-to-take-helm-of-wawasee-football/

Within the NLC:

respect NorthWood and Northridge

absolutely despise Plymouth.

Within the Michiana area:

respect Mishawaka and SB St Joe

despise Penn

@Muda69 Does it ever get tiring finding something to argue in every every thread? I honestly can't imagine putting that much effort to do so. Truly mind boggling.

12 hours ago, DT said:

Davidson is an "historic" Ohio high school football program.  The fact that Bradley has caught up to them in such a short amount of time is incredibly impressive, in my view.  

Note that Bradley did fall to defending state champ Pickerington Central early in the tournament.  Both programs should remain very competitive for some time.  The Davidson district has less room for growth than does Bradley, hence more potential upside for Bradley.  Darby is pretty decent as well.

This is incredibly impressive, but is it truly unexpected? I think that's the main point of the argument here. If Carmel were to split into 2 high schools, would it there really be a decrease in either of those schools competitiveness? The fact that Bradley and Davidson are still both extremely competitive is a successful example as to why this kind of thing should happen in Indiana. At least, that is how I understood it.

1 hour ago, DT said:

Not necessarily true.  Hilliard Davidson used to be a big school multi year state champion.  Hilliard Darby is also in the same town.  Now Hilliard Bradley opened 5 years ago, and Bradley has eclipsed Davidson as the top football program in the community

Definitely a change in overall competitiveness when Bradley came into the picture and built their program from the ground up.  

That's.... a stretch. Per MaxPreps website

Last 10 years:

Bradley record 64 - 42 (60.4% winning percentage)

Davidson record 101- 24 (80.8% winning percentage)

Last 5 years:

Bradley record 42 - 14 (75.0% winning percentage)

Davidson record 42 - 17 (71.2% winning percentage)

While Bradley has certainly gotten better and had a heck of a 3 year run, it's not like Davidson is doing THAT much worse. For what it's worth, Davidson advanced further in the OHSAA playoffs this year AND defeated Bradley this season 17-10.

10 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

If the way the IHSAA has done things in the past holds, the combined school would remain in 5A for 2020 and then move up and be reclassified for 2021-22. 

After absorbing Muncie South mid-cycle, Muncie Central competed in 4A (football) and 3A (basketball) with 1,600 students for one year. I believe a bylaw change would have to take place for that to change, so keep an eye on the IHSAA board meeting. I wrote a proposal and submitted it to my principal to be considered (that a school that consolidates mid-cycle would be reclassified with its new enrollment), but I'm not sure if it was ever submitted to the IHSAA. 

Exactly. There's already a precedent set as to what they'll do. Also, who cares if the combine Elkhart schools stay in 5A for 1 year. I'll be surprised if it truly matters all that much. If they go on to win the 2020 5A State Championship.... then I guess that'll make for good banter/conversations on this forum!

37 minutes ago, Indian72 said:

Hubbard went through the whole 2020 football schedule on the radio but I do not recall the order but it seemed he said the last game would be Northridge

That would fall in line with Memorial's current schedule as they have finished the season with Northridge every year since joining the NLC. Maybe the scenario I mentioned is what will occur and Concord vs. Jimtown will move up to week 2 and Concord vs. Mishawaka will play week 6. That would give Mishawaka a heck of a 4 game stretch in the middle of the season:

Week 4: Warsaw

Week 5: Plymouth

Week 6: Concord

Week 7: NorthWood

41 minutes ago, Indian72 said:

Penn is off the football schedule in 2020 -  Mishawaka will open with Marian and then play East Noble followed by 7 conference games

This is interesting to see. I always assumed Mishawaka would simply slide into Elkhart Memorial's spot in the NLC schedule (out of conference games week 1 and week 6). If they are going to be playing East Noble in week 2, I wonder if that means the Concord vs. Jimtown game will also be moving to week 2 and Mishawaka and Concord will play week 6.

3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Live feeds do not have that much of an impact for a conference like the MIC: heck they have their own TV Stream station all to themselves 

Where it does have a legit effect is 4a thru 1a and more so towards the smaller schools.   Small schools absolutely  rely on butts in seats.  If 100 fans stay home to watch online, that is over $500 out of the gate, that money may not mean much to Center Grove or New Pal, but it sure does to a place like Rensselaer or insert XYZ team

This is off topic of the thread subject, but I have question:

If live feeds hurt the budget of a school... why don't they decide to NOT offer a live feed? Also, if a school is willing to allow live feeds, they should attempt to recoup money lost from butts in seats with advertisements (I'm sure some are already doing this).

4 hours ago, DT said:

1. Should be very interesting to see what Bart Curtis can do in year 2 at Warsaw.  The Tigers had an outstanding season in 2018 under Curtis, and one can can only assume that the program will burst forward in Year 2 as long as the talent holds up.  Warsaw has a potentially huge numbers advantage over other NLC schools, anticipating that more kids come out and want to get in on the action.  I look for a similar trajectory for Warsaw under Curtis as what we saw at Mishawaka.  

You stole my own post/thoughts from the NLC 2019 thread 😛 I tease, but I agree it will be very interesting to see how the Tigers trend in year 2 under Coach Curtis after exceeding my personal expectations (7-3 overall, only 4 points away from an undefeated regular season and led Penn at halftime of their sectional game).

20 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

Two major questions in the north: Does Lafayette Jeff go to the Region or get paired with Zionsville?

*Noblesville is farther north than HSE and Fishers and is also close to I-69, which is why I would anticipate they be sent to Fort Wayne. 

I just honestly see neither of these things happening. I feel like you could sell me more on the possibility of Lafayette Jeff heading to Fort Wayne along with Noblesville rather than Jeff going to the Region or being paired with Zionsville. I have a strong belief that Zionsville will be put in 6A South.

I also feel like it makes a lot of sense for the IHSAA to keep Carmel, Noblesville and Westfield together as well, leaving them the need to find 1 school to fill that sectional. It can't/won't be either HSE or Fishers since they won't be split up. That leaves Jeff to fill that sectional.

*While Noblesville is "farther north" than HSE and Fishers, they are much closer to I-69 and are actually closer for Homestead and Carroll "time wise". Miles wise, there are close to equal.

1 hour ago, crimsonace1 said:

Another
1: Crown Point, Lake Central, Merrillville, Portage
2: Chesterton, Penn, Valpo, Warsaw
3: Homestead, Carroll, Noblesville, Westfield OR Lafayette Jeff
4: Carmel, Zionsville, North Central, Westfield OR Lafayette Jeff

South stays the same. Pike/BD/Avon/Brownsburg and the Sectional 8 (FC/CN/CE/CG) are pretty much locked in. HSE/Fishers and LC/LN won't be split up so it makes sense to put them in the same sectional. And WC/Tech and the Perry Township schools make much sense. I expect if any Indy-area school goes north, it will be North Central. 

HSE/Fishers and LC/LN were in the South the last 2 years and weren't in the same sectional. Even though you say it makes sense, the IHSAA must not have felt so last cycle.

I also would find it far fetched to see Lafayette Jeff get thrown in with the Fort Wayne schools. Both are well over 100 miles away from Jeff, while Carmel, Westfield and Noblesville are all at or under 60 miles away. Outside of Warsaw and Penn for the Fort Wayne schools, Noblesville is the next closest geographically, but #2 and #3 are Fishers and HSE. Since we know the IHSAA won't split them up (and assuming Sectionals 1 and 2 stay the same as they have been), that is why I I feel like they'll group Carroll and Homestead with Fishers and HSE. Even though it's over 100 miles for those pairs, it's all highway on I-69. What you proposed isn't bad though. It'll be interesting to see what they do. Hurts Carroll and Homestead having Snider and Northrop both drop down to 5A.

22 hours ago, Bullhorn99 said:

So here's a question--will the IHSAA have to put 33 teams in 5A in anticipation of the Elkhart consolidation? If they do, BNL would potentially be in 5A, right?

If they don't, in 2020 there will only be 31 teams in 5A so in 1 northern sectional 1 team will have a bye to the sectional championship game, right?

This is a VERY good question. Hopefully 1 that will be taken into account if the numbers above are indeed accurate.

3 minutes ago, CoachJackson said:

Pike and Zionsville are too close together to put them apart logically. Be like HSE and Fishers being split.

And Fishers/HSE are the same school district. IHSAA likes to keep those schools together, like Southport and Perry Meridian for example.

20 hours ago, Kick4fun said:

Either way, would suspect Laf Jeff and Zionsville to be paired together.

I would be extremely surprised if Lafayette Jeff and Zionsville are paired together. That would mean Zionsville goes to the north of 6A. Which of these teams then would you put in the south because someone would have to go:

Carmel, Westfield, Noblesville, Fishers, HSE.

There isn't a CHANCE that the IHSAA puts Carmel in the south. And if Carmel isn't going south, it wouldn't make much sense for Westfield to go south. The IHSAA also won't split up Fishers and HSE (who, if in the north, I see being paired with the 2 Fort Wayne teams). That leaves Noblesville as the final team. So you're going to but Noblesville in the south? No way that is happening.

Zionsville will 100% be placed in 6A South.

41 minutes ago, Bullhorn99 said:

I think someone asked earlier, but I didn't see a reply:

Does anybody have the total number of football playing schools for this next cycle?

Also, do I have this right? The approach by the ihsaa is as follows: 64 teams in class A through 4A; 32 teams in 6A; 5A will have 32 or more depending on how many more than 320 football schools the state has.

That is correct. 

Two other topics to add:

- Any news on the direction Wawasee is looking? Any announcement on whether or not they are interviewing for the position and when they would like to make a decision?

- Any news on the Goshen program? After consistent improvement from Year 1 to Year 2 and Year 2 to Year 3, the Redhawks have gone 3-18 the past 2 seasons and were not all that competitive in 2018. The newest enrollment figures that were posted today on the IHSAA website show steady, minimal growth as Goshen has gone from the 42nd largest school in the state in the 13-14 school years to now the 36th largest (and 5th largest school in 5A since Jeffersonville is being dropped down thanks to Columbus East success factor bumping them to 6A). It sure would be nice to see that program rebound and get back on the path they were headed a few years ago.

FWIW these are the enrollment #s that were posted:

Added that last one for fun for the 2020 season 😄 

Posting this topic as one where users can make their guesses on what the new 6A sectional alignments will be. Here is what I would propose:

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lake Central, Merrillville, Portage

Sectional 2: Chesterton, Penn, Valparaiso, Warsaw

Sectional 3: FW Carroll, Fishers, Hamilton Southeastern, Homestead

Sectional 4: Carmel, Lafayette Jefferson, Noblesville, Westfield

Sectional 5: Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central, Warren Central

Sectional 6: Avon, Brownsburg, Pike, Zionsville

Sectional 7: Arsenal Tech, Ben Davis, Perry Meridian, Southport

Sectional 8: Center Grove, Columbus East, Columbus North, Franklin Central

EDIT* 

I believe I found the answer to my own question:

Columbus East will be in 6A

FW Bishop Dwenger will be in 5A

Evansville Memorial will be in 4A

Southridge will be in 3A

Pioneer will be in 2A

New Palestine will remain in 5A

Can someone please remind/post which schools will be affected by the success factor?

Obviously a homer here, but I will be interested to see what the Warsaw Tigers do in year 2 under Bart Curtis. They over exceeded my personal expectations last year, and in no way was that due to doubting the Tiger coaching staff. Implementing a completely new offensive philosophy and getting the players and community to "buy in" to it was going to be a hurdle in my opinion. However, they were only a few points away from going 10-0 in the regular season last year and even led Penn at halftime of their 1st round sectional game. A revamped out of conference schedule (replacing 4A schools Columbia City and East Noble with 5A foes Huntington North and Michigan City) and higher expectations following the "success" of 2018... I am very excited and interested to see how Warsaw does in 2019!

The start of the football season is 7 months away, but that shouldn't stop us from talking about the 2019 season in the NLC. A few things to note:

- Warsaw will have new opponents in Weeks 1 and 2 this year. The Tigers will host Huntington North in week 1 and travel to famed Ames Field for a week 2 matchup against Michigan City. Overall I would say this is a bump up in competition for Warsaw's non-conference schedule although I enjoyed the opening game against Columbia City (easy drive down US 30) and thought East Noble was a solid program to face.

- Northridge will be getting a new turf football stadium (was well as turf baseball and softball fields) that should be ready for the 2020 school year. (https://www.goshennews.com/news/local_news/million-middlebury-athletics-proposal-passes/article_011d0da1-44c4-5494-9ead-a1a36fd9ccc6.html)