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  1. 8 minutes ago, Lemmy said:

    I noticed this paragraph in the article and was confused to what this was trying to say or prevent.  Is this just spelling out what a legal formation is if you don't have 11 players?  Maybe one of our professional officials can weigh in:

    "A change in the definition of a legal scrimmage formation was approved. A legal scrimmage formation now requires at least five offensive players on their line of scrimmage (instead of seven) with no more than four backs. The committee noted that this change will make it easier to identify legal and illegal offensive formations."

    There is SO much here, I think we'll have to wait and see the actual verbage. 

    As it stands currently you are required to have five players numbered 50-79 and seven players on the LOS. A maximum of four in the backfield. 

    As I see it now, you can now legally snap the ball with nine players. There's no word on numbering requirements. I'm not sure why the opted for the number to be five on the line. Perhaps someone could elaborate. 

  2. 8 minutes ago, Bobref said:

    In reading comments made by officials from other states, I’m amazed how many states have literally no schools that utilize visible play clocks. We take that for granted in Indiana. Can’t remember the last time I was at a game with no field play clock ... once Bill Sharpe left Jimtown. 😎

    I agree, this has been one of the biggest discussion points on the forums I've seen. 

  3. 1 hour ago, SBFootball1 said:

    That is too bad.  Are those that miss not considered IHSAA officials anymore? Obviously this would mean these crews arent doing tourney games, but does IHSAA have any say on who can ref a regular season game? Sorry if these are dumb questions, just not sure how it all works from the officiating end.

    Once you are licensed, the only thing that's required to keep your license is to renew it each year. If you are a licensed official, you can work regular season games. In order to work the tournament, there meetings you have to attend, clinics you have to attend, tests you have to take, online interpretation presentations, etc.

  4. Our situation is tough to tell. We had two kids in school in 2017. We had zero kids in school in 2018. My gut says we (middle class) took a hit. 

    I took a modest salary increase shortly after I got the new tax tables. After taking said pay increase my net take home went down about $72 a pay period. The real killer in my opinion was losing the deductions. Our refund for 2018 was about 17% of what it was in 2017.

    On another note, the real killer that all your sales friends are going to be upset about, if you're a straight commission person who's a W2 employee, mileage is gone. Loopholes for meals are also gone. This does not apply to 1099 subs. I do some odd jobs as a sub that I get 1099'd for, I still get mileage and meals. 

     

  5. 7 minutes ago, JustRules said:

    I agree completely. We don't have a single source for interpretation here to provide that consistency other than "what does the book say?" It's tough to do that at a statewide high school level so that is not a knock on the IHSAA. Some states are just more structured than others. Unless we have a commissioner focused on officiating only it's very difficult to get to that level of involvement with rules and interpretations.

    I will add another caveat: At local meetings I see a lot of people missing that we've seen in years past. I often ask where's Bill, where' s JIm? And the standard answer is becoming they're not applying for the tournament anymore. So given that situation, the interpretation issues are going to continue to get worse as I see it. There is becoming a larger and larger group of officials who have basically zero contact with the IHSAA for rulings, interpretations, mechanics, etc. 

  6. 8 hours ago, ts32 said:

    Why are some on this forum so keen on giving "every kid who wants to play football" a chance to play, and the more schools that offer kids the opportunity to play, the better?

    Look, I get it. I get how Friday Night Lights can bring a community together especially in rural Indiana. It's a big event, a community gathering in all those places where there's nothing to do and nowhere to go. We've seen it happen at Eastern.

    But facts is facts. A lot of schools simply don't have the money, the resources and the numbers to field even a semi-competitive football program.

    With the IHSAA's "open enrollment" policy, any kid who wants to play football can simply transfer to a school that has a decent, established program in place.

    DT is right. A lot of programs need to fold their tents. As he said, just look at the bottom of the Sagarin ratings by class. Loaded with perennial bottom-feeders, moribund programs with little hope of resurrecting to even the level of mediocrity.

    I was in the ditch at: But facts is facts

    You totally lost me at: DT is right

    Why must every thread on this board turn into a contraction debate?

    If the local school board and community support having Football, why not? Are there schools out there that should probably call it a day, absolutely. Is it my place as a taxpayer and community member of Seymour tell Linton what they should be doing with their Football program?

    Bigger point, you mention yourself open enrollment, this is bigger than sports, school systems today need to have butts in desks to make it financially. How does cutting out sports programs further that cause? Furthermore, in rural communities if they opt to drop Football, because kids can just transfer to another competitive school, how long before rural schools lose enough where it puts their school in jeopardy? What about the local competitive school, how long before they're forced to expand, thus putting more pressure on the local tax base, no bother for the transfers, they have no skin in the game. 

     

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  7. On 2/10/2019 at 10:47 AM, DanteEstonia said:

    The admins know my name and can look up my organization on the Nevada Secretary of State’s website.

    Per you instructions:

    https://www.nvsos.gov/elections/4783.pdf

    I spent an extra minute and dug a little deeper trying find out what you’re attempting to do:

    https://fundly.com/fountainhead-society-fundraising-for-ballot-initiative

    https://fundly.com/users/1377271

    I searched for a web presence but could not find one. Since your funding efforts aren’t going well, if I donate 20 bucks, could you set something that specifically would detail your master plan? I’m more than happy to set the wheels in motion.

     

     

     

  8. 4 hours ago, Miner_Pride said:

    Gotta be tough for those kids who want to play football to have gone through the up and down yes or no stuff.  Wasn't that long ago they were kinda making some noise with the passing game and a good QB... I would also think they would have some trouble getting long term commitments from opponents......

     

    It's a horrible situation for the kids who want to play Football. 

    Long story short, they were sold a bill of goods by a snake oil salesman and started the program before they were ready. He highlights his kid, they shops him around Indy and move on to greener pastures, presumably. Life lesson, the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.  Football ends round one.

    They team up with another club team and compete for a year, a non-IHSAA schedule, then move everything on campus and call it Trinity Lutheran. Schedule a mix of IHSAA member schools and non-members, with multiple players who aren't enrolled at Trinity. An unnamed by me AD from another IHSAA member school catches wind that he has an athlete attending practices and contacts the IHSAA. Football ends round two. I believe they had 7-9 players who were not enrolled at Trinity Lutheran. 

    As stated this is an awful situation for the kids who just want to play Football. The adults have failed them miserably. I know there were some kids who transfered after the program was shut down the first time, I have no idea if any are transfering this time. I have heard that some may possibly play on a club team. In the meantime between the two shutdowns, Trinity has moved from co-ed soccer to separate boys and girls teams, I would guess this only exacerbates their situation with numbers.

    I'm a Football guy, I wan to see the game of Football grow and prosper, and the situation at Trinity doesn't do the game any justice. I would guess the folks who write the checks at Trinity are going to have a tough time ponying up for a part three after two failures. Just please get your ducks in a row before there's another redo with Football. 

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  9. 30 minutes ago, fbofficial said:

    40 second play clock - great change

    Number visibility, no opinion

    Legal scrimmage formation - great change

    Tripping - "....intentionally use lower leg...." could lead to some interpretation differences

    Horse-collar - good change

    Illegal kicking and batting - makes sense to change to 10 yards

    Replay - can't see it being used with exception of state finals.  Therefore will never affect me. 

    40 Second play clock, I wouldn't want to go back, good change.

    Jersey stuff, not much I can do, hopefully the manufacturers pay attention.

    Legal Scrimmage Formation, so A can now legally snap the ball with 9 players?

    Horsecollar good move, I still don't see this as being a big issue in HS Football.

    Illegal kicking and batting, fine, whatever. I would venture to guess the majority of officials have never called it, much less know what the yardage penalty is.

    Replay I think this needs to addressed in the right way. This could be the greatest thing since sliced bread or a huge boondoggle. 

     

  10. Just now, Irishman said:

    I just read through this topic; in my mind attacking someone's family or daughter; especially when none of them even know you or have ever said a thing to you, should be off limits. As someone with no dog in the fight, you have gone WAY over the line of what is acceptable. Disagree with IO all day long; take shots at him, and let it go back and forth; but bringing his daughter into it and to continue attacking her is pretty low.

    It's pretty funny for those who know my daughter. DE has a hard on for me, and thinks he can get a rise out of me by attacking my daughter. I consider the source and move on. Just words from a keyboard warrior. 

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  11. I was told by a trusted source close to the program, that they have called it quits for the immediate future. He said he saw no way they could move forward in the foreseeable future. 

    That being said, they have an all new administration in place, principal and AD are both in their first year, so who knows. The principal has a sports background, including college Football, the AD is a retired insurance salesman. 

  12. 11 hours ago, gonzoron said:

    You copied that tweet from her website?

    It was posted on Twitter. I looked for the actual proposal briefly, couldn’t find it. 

     

    10 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

    Serfs, and then cattle.

    I’m not following, what makes you think she’s a serf or a cow? Or that a skinny, bald, 30 something would have a shot to begin with?

     

    10 hours ago, AG said:

    You should have questioned it because it is sheer ridiculousness. 

    Based on most of it, it seemed almost ridiculous enough to be true.

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