Bash Riprock

1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said:

First rule of being a pro, is looking like one. 

Kind of like this guy..........

1 hour ago, Donnie Baker said:

And mercy rules. Like that guy toad The Postman, mercy is for the weak 

Toad…😆

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Yes.  I feel much better about having the Giants #1 after this performance and the transitive property of how both teams played Moeller.  Far from a done deal obviously though.

Now, are we ready to have that difficult discussion about EAST CENTRAL?

BD may absolutely be the best team in the state. They look good. Basing it on “transitive property”….😆

Thank goodness we don’t decide champs on margins of victory against a common opponent at different times during a season….

9 hours ago, StinkTownClown said:

Riprock, Riprock, Riprock 1.2..3...

Glad to join the fun and say what STC thinks about IC!!!

It wasn't long ago Daddy Gillin was walking those halls

recruiting little Braves from schools all around that could throw or catch a ball.

Daddy Gillin made the news once or twice, STC is not shocked that little Gilly wasn't far behind!

Shame on IC and the good ol' IHSAA, no reason they shouldn't release this kid and let him play.

But like before with so many decisions to be made, it just seems like they piss them away!

 

 

 

STC and Donnie B…never disappoint!!! 

On 9/6/2023 at 1:44 PM, Boilernation said:

This!!! No way he can keep that pace all year.

 

I agree....the Buffs have a pretty darn tough schedule......maybe the only game they can rest him is Colorado State?  Zona?

I know this if off topic, but Muda's name of this thread made me think about this GID legendary member.......

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

They smoked Dwenger week 2 but yes 1-3 against IN competition before you play an OH opponent really puts them behind the 8ball.

Thanks. Forgot about the Dwenger game 

40 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

I don't disagree with you on Doyel but only to an extent.

He's paid as a columnist and not a journalist. He's paid to get reactions from people and to express his opinions. His facts, however, have to be sound. That's especially in a case like this one. Anything presented as fact has been vetted by someone above him, I'm sure. If it's not, that's a problem for him and for Gannett. 

I find Doyel to be an excellent writer when it comes to features. His column writing is grating. He goes back and says the same thing over and over again. He inserts "I" and "me" into his columns too much. I've never written for the outlets that he has, but I did have a cup of coffee at the IU School of Journalism (it was my minor). I know that was always frowned upon. 

But hey...it's 2023. 

Gregg cares deeply for what he writes about. I think that sometimes makes him go overboard.

You and I agree on some of your points and disagree on others in regards to Doyel.

A few years back, he left sports to talk about a Civil War memorial being moved out of Garfield Park.  The memorial was for Confederate dead that lost their lives while in a Union prison camp here in Indy.  I am not about arguing for or against the removal.  But Doyel jumped in with his policial views and made statements (to include about his own family ancestory) that was flat out generalizing and stereotyping people on one one side of the spectrum that were misguided and in some cases historically incorrect.  

I know what a columnist is....and I also know that one should attempt to balance their personal views and be largely accurate when they make statements in support of their  positions.  I have seem him miss that boat time and time again on social media, and he doesn't care....he has a view and others be damned if they don't agree.  He's caustic and will argue to win no matter the facts or the costs.  I will never buy an edition of the IndyStar while he's employed.

37 minutes ago, tango said:

In previous articles, Doyle cites CRP / court decisions where these kinds of findings have been made.

 https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2021/02/23/ihsaa-transfer-process-under-fire-claims-bullying-being-unprofessional-indiana-eligibility-review/6751342002/

You may consider Doyle to be a "hack" but he's read transcripts of IHSAA appeal and CRP hearings. Have you?  

Wouldn't you expect a writer for a major city newspaper to check his sources?  If not, well, your standards are different than mine.

Doyel writes columns and so much of his work is based on his opinion...and he is paid to "stir things up".  If you don't already, follow him on Twitter/X.  I think you will see with many of his positions, he does NOT allow facts to stand in his way.

My 7 main conclusions with this thread.....

1. Let the kid transfer for his senior season and move on.  Do the right thing IHSAA!
2. The title of this thread is one of the best in quite some time.  Well done Muda!
3. Grover only made the comment about Lea Thompson given his marching band resume.
4. Coach Nickerson failed Salvucci...no sugar coating that fact.
5. Doyel is still a putz!
6. Nickerson's play call one of the worst in history that directly led to Ampipe's loss at Walnut Heights.  Steph called him out for it and it cost him his senior season.  I do have to give him some credit for the 6-2 stack defense.
7. Brian should have taken the scholly to USC.  Married student housing buddy!!

I think the Moeller vs CG game will be closer.  Moeller has their backs against the wall, coming off a crushing loss to East Central.  They sure as heck don't want to go 0-3 against Indiana teams.  I think their coaches will have them ready to play.  Still favor CG, but believe it will be a battle.

12 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

I don't know who's right and who's wrong with this particular case.

But it seems Doyel always has an agenda....and perhaps laziness is there as well, but I am leaning its more of an agenda.  I dropped the IndyStar because of their agenda and specifically the actions and behavior of Doyel on social media.  He makes his biases very apparent.  Its a shame, as I think Kyle Ned is a gem for the Star.  I value following him on social media very much.  Doyel, not so much.

33 minutes ago, bucksfan said:

I have worked in and for several schools and have many contacts around the state, and I know many incidents where hardships against the student occurred and help from the IHSSA was requested and denied, especially if they are a small, urban, or private school.   They claim they are for students' best interest and yet those actual examples are hard to find.  Feel free to show us one that is not from Carmel or Center Grove.   

 

 

Just curious...do you have any specific examples for Carmel and CG?

FCS level, but this guy was a pretty special 2 way player back in the day.  Finished 5th and 3rd respectively in the Heisman Trophy voting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Lockbaum

nice share....sounds like if the development continues and he stays healthy, may be watching this young man on Sundays.

Steele 96 total yds in his first UCLA game. 5.8 yds/carry, 4 catches and a TD. 

23 minutes ago, temptation said:

1.  BD vs CG is so damn hard to gauge right now because I don’t know the legitimacy of either of CG’s wins due to them being out of state.  Of course, Moeller is BD’s biggest win and I agree that they were overrated to start the season.  Wish we could see these two in the regular season.  We will at least have some common opponents to compare them soon.

 

Not that it matters, but there is no comparison with SOS.   

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Did they dress?  How many can you dress for a Big Ten home game?

Not sure total to dress, but I noticed several former players on the field. Hohlt and Weems on box score for tackles. Jackson got some QB play. Evans and Schott in the photo below #30. Not sure about Biddings, but assume so…

2 hours ago, Slobberknocker said:

Is this what drew the 15-yard penalty and cause the AD and Assistance AD to have to corral kids out of the endzone the rest of the night?

I believe so…not positive 

2 hours ago, temptation said:

Biddings?

Yes, Biddings, Evans, and Weems are all former CG players also on the IU roster, in addition to Jackson and Hohlt.  Just noticed Weems credited with a solo tackle. Not sure if the other 2 saw action. 

On 9/2/2023 at 6:14 PM, Bash Riprock said:

Going to be a homer…but kinda cool watching the IU vs Ohio State game and seeing 3 former Trojans on the field….Curry, Hohlt, and Jackson. 

Curry as a true soph looked strong yesterday. 

10 hours ago, temptation said:

Not much diversity in that photo…the MIC 6 are offended just looking at it.

Just a cool photo man…

22 minutes ago, temptation said:

So cultural differences, specific only to varsity football, expire in 2024?

Got it.

That’s not what I said. I stated that they were scheduled originally to play this year…but BD took the opportunity to play IMG instead schedule the same week. 
 

If BD chooses not to play in the future, then I believe we have a story. 
 

Enjoy the holiday weekend.  Way too cranky….

10 hours ago, temptation said:

Yep…if only adults stayed out of the way and they still played one another…

I thought the original plan was for BD and CG to play in week 4, and then IMG opportunity came up. I believe they are both playing each other next year. 

Futures…even without a conference, I like how the future looks in Center Grove…