Bash Riprock
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1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:
I didn't say they played a MIC or HCC equivalent schedule, I said they played a 6A equivalent schedule.
Agree....they play some of the state's top programs and go outside the state to also play stellar competition....absolutely a 6A schedule and a darn good one too.
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4 hours ago, temptation said:
That too, but Carmel blows a hole in that argument. I'll actually argue (not that I feel or anyone else should feel) that 5000+ is sort of detrimental to the success of a football program.
Good to know Carmel is handicapped at 5000+ students for football. Interesting to know the size of their student body doesn't seem to be detrimental with other sports.....sports that require less participation than football.
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48 minutes ago, temptation said:
I’ve spoken on this in the past. Once you get above that 2500 student threshold there is a point of diminishing returns.
2500 means you can go 2-3 deep and most positions and that’s good enough. Little advantage to 4000+ vs 2500 as opposed to 3400 (HSE) vs 1900 (Snider).
I want to be clear in that I believe Snider could compete with nearly everyone in the HCC if the contests are being viewed as independent of one another, but asking them to play that schedule 8 weeks in a row world take its toll.
You’ve been openly critical of Penn’s schedule. Let me pose the same question to you…what would their record be against an 8 team HCC schedule?
2500 is the magical #....not 2450..
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14 hours ago, temptation said:
Westfield and HSE have an average of 1000 more kids than Snider. More depth. I think we saw what happens (Westfield vs Brownsburg) in the HCC when you have a bad night.
Zionsville is a close analogy. They are a damn fine football team that is an afterthought in the HCC.
Close to Snider in enrollment and capable of sneaking up on anyone but simply cannot punch above their weight week after week.
I thought you told us it was all about the lunches....
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15 hours ago, temptation said:
Did you watch/see any of the BD/Warren game or just look at the final score?
Be honest.
I know how the teams scored. I also saw how special teams and turnovers played a big role last week in the CG vs Cathedral game, that lead the final to be a one score game.
We are in the playoffs now. Turnover and special teams matter....its now one and done with high school kids playing the game. I don't care how Warren scored against BD...they were there at the end and that is all that matters.
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12 hours ago, Komets2727 said:
Again, using transitive scores, BD literally squeaked by Warren 31-28 and Snider smacked around Warren 42-20 at Warren with 14 of the 20 points being a special teams TD and a pick 6. It just seems like Temptation picks and chooses what he wants to substantiate his argument. We all have differing opinions
uses concepts of transitive scores when it aligns with his narrative.
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3 hours ago, temptation said:
You don’t have to give the coach speak…the results speak for themselves.
Warren is a shell of its former self. Eric Moore can say all of the respect yada, yada because he has to. This is a safe place.
(And I do know what I’m talking about…pull the tape.)
Of course you know what you are talking about. Can only imagine how many Holiday Inn Express membership points you must be racking up.
We agree that it’s not been a typical year for Warren. But that team still played BD down to the wire. That got my attention. Don’t agree it’s a cakewalk to play them. They will win their sectional without breaking a sweat, and will give it their all in the regional. CG has to open up with a well coached FC team and the Trojans better be ready.
Undoubtedly a tougher path for BB, BD, and Cathedral. But CG better be ready to play next Friday night.
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Michigan suspends the staffer in question Connor Stalions
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Looks like they have targeted an individual...ex-military with UM ties.
Michigan staffer eyed as center of 'elaborate' scouting scheme, sources say
A low-level staffer with a military background has emerged as one of the linchpins in the NCAA investigation into Michigan's alleged sign-stealing operation, sources told ESPN on Thursday.
Connor Stalions, a football analyst with the Wolverines and a retired captain in the United States Marine Corps, is a person of interest in the investigation into whether No. 2-ranked Michigan violated an NCAA rule by scouting future opponents in person at games, sources said. The NCAA prohibited such scouting in 1994.
Sources said the NCAA enforcement staff's level of interest in Stalions is so significant it sought access to his computer as part of its investigation. Sources indicated that the process is underway, although it's uncertain what investigators will find.
Attempts by ESPN to reach Stalions were not returned. Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel did not return a request seeking comment.
Around Michigan's football building, Stalions is known to technically work in the recruiting department under director of recruiting Albert Karschnia. But a source said it was known in the building that he spent much of his time deciphering opponents' signals, often watching television copies of opponents' games. On Stalions' Instagram page, there are photos of him on the sideline next to two of Michigan's former defensive playcallers, Don Brown and Mike Macdonald.
"He had one role," said a source with knowledge of Michigan's staff.
What is crucial to the NCAA case isn't what Stalions did while breaking down television copies of games to learn and decode opponents' signals. It's whether or not illicit methods were used, which are alleged to include opponent scouting in different venues and was outlawed by the NCAA nearly three decades ago as a cost-cutting measure to bring more equity to the sport.
Sign stealing also violates NCAA rules if a team uses electronic equipment to decipher signals and relay the information to players and coaches. According to the 2023 NCAA football rule book, "any attempt to record, either through audio or video means, any signals given by an opposing player, coach or other team personnel is prohibited."
The allegations against Michigan appear to transcend the normal coach griping about opposing coaches stealing signals, as the depth of the allegations -- and the Big Ten's on-record affirmation of an investigation -- hint at something much more significant.
The allegations have rattled coaches and administrators around the Big Ten.
"This is worse than both the Astros and the Patriots -- it's both use of technology for a competitive advantage and there's allegations that they are filming prior games, not just in-game," a Big Ten source said. "If it was just an in-game situation, that's different. Going and filming somewhere you're not supposed to be. It's illegal. It's too much of an advantage."
Stalions, a graduate of the United States Naval Academy, was hired as an off-field analyst at Michigan in May 2022, according to a bio on his LinkedIn account. In the bio, Stalions wrote that he attempts to "employ Marine Corps philosophies and tactics into the sport of football regarding strategies in staffing, recruiting, scouting, intelligence, planning and more."
Among the skills Stalions wrote about on LinkedIn were "identifying the opponent's most likely course of action and most dangerous course of action" and "identifying and exploiting critical vulnerabilities and centers of gravity in the opponent scouting process."
The son of two Michigan alumni, Stalions enrolled at the Naval Academy and was a student assistant for the Midshipmen from 2013 to 2016. After being commissioned as a second lieutenant in the Marine Corps in 2017, Stalions worked as a graduate assistant at Navy before beginning his military training, according to his LinkedIn account.
While he was stationed at Camp Pendleton in California, Stalions wrote, he served as a volunteer assistant coach at Michigan from May 2015 to May 2022.
"On top of my daily duties as a Logistics Officer leading [40-plus] at a time, I volunteered for the Michigan football staff, flying back [and] forth on my own dime, assisting the defensive staff," Stalions wrote.
In a profile of Stalions on the website Soldiers to Sidelines in January 2022, he said he purchased a house and rented each of the bedrooms on Airbnb, while sleeping on the couch, to help pay for his travel to Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Stalions retired as a captain in the Marine Corps in May 2022 and joined Michigan's staff as an off-field analyst.
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throw in the $$ bring in Washington State's Jake Dickert. Bring the Wisconsin guy back to the midwest and back to the Power 5 to rebuild the program
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4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:
My question is: How dumb or negligent would you have to be to get caught doing something like this? I haven't heard one instance of a team getting caught doing this in all my years of existence and didn't even know there was such a rule that existed, apparently enacted in 1994.
Most B10 stadiums seat what, 70-80k? How do you get caught doing something like this in a sea of people that big and have it trace all the way back to Michigan?
Darn Coaches...told them wear Ohio State merch!!!!
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39 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:
I'll be the first to question if Michigan is actually the only team that does this, but man, Michigan and Harbaugh just can't help themselves.
Sounds a little more "advanced".....not sure if this is common or if Michigan was further out on the edge.....
Rigorously preparing for an upcoming opponent is central to the work done by college football teams and their coaches over the course of the season. To help with that task, programs are provided with video footage to scout teams they’re preparing to play.
What separates the Wolverines in this case is that they allegedly went beyond those traditional means of scouting. Anonymous sources cited by Yahoo claimed they used “unnamed individuals” to attend games of scheduled opponents and potential College Football Playoff foes to collect information on the signs used by those teams for their offensive and defensive plays. The Athletic reported Thursday that the Big Ten claims that Michigan used a “vast network” to steal opposing teams' signs.
NCAA rules on in-person scouting
Unlike sign-stealing, in-person scouting is explicitly forbidden, which is why Michigan could potentially be in trouble with college sports’ governing body.
Under the umbrella of “Scouting of Opponents” in the 2023-24 NCAA Division I Manual, bylaw 11.6.1 states that “off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited.”
There are exceptions to the rule outlined in corresponding bylaws, 11.6.1.1 and 11.6.1.2:
- 11.6.1.1: “Same Event at the Same Site: an institutional staff member may scout future opponents also participating in the same event at the same site.”
- 11.6.1.2: “Conference or NCAA Championships: an institutional staff member may attend a contest in the institution's conference championship or an NCAA championship contest in which a future opponent participates (e.g., an opponent on the institution's spring non-championship-segment schedule participates in a fall conference or NCAA championship).”
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is Jimmy at it again....Temp to the rescue!!!! 😉
The NCAA is investigating the Michigan Wolverines' football program amid allegations of sign stealing, the Big Ten Conference announced Thursday.
The University of Michigan and the Big Ten were both notified by the NCAA of the investigation Wednesday, and the conference said it had notified the Wolverines' future opponents.
"The Big Ten Conference considers the integrity of competition to be of utmost importance and will continue to monitor the investigation," it said in a statement.
According to a report by Yahoo Sports, Michigan allegedly had people attending games of future opponents as well as possible College Football Playoff opponents to gather information on signs used to call plays on offense and defense.
If true, the No. 2 Wolverines would have violated NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, which states: "Off-campus, in-person scouring of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited."
U.S. Integrity, a Las Vegas firm that monitors the betting market, sent out an alert to its sportsbook clients regarding the Michigan controversy Thursday, ESPN confirmed.
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27 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:
They had a great run but are about to be relegated to the levels at which they were pre-Harbaugh. The new transfer phenomenon and NIL have killed that program.
Looks like they have a tough road ahead....at least they get to look forward to long flights playing the the ACC. 😉
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3 hours ago, Komets2727 said:
100% accurate!!! Again, need to go to a relegation league concept for teams like Indiana, Vanderbilt, California, Stanford, Illinois, etc… None of these teams are ever in consideration for the playoffs and are just cannon fodder for the big boys
Probably unfair comment about Stanford. While challenges the last 4-5 seasons, they went 102-32 from 2009-18 under Harbaugh and David Shaw. They made appearances in the Orange, Fiesta, and Rose Bowls (3 times) along with Alamo and Sun Bowls repeatedly. IU and Purdue could only dream of that journey.
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2 hours ago, Bobref said:
OK, now even @temptationhas to admit that’s funny.
Pure Michigan - Michigan State....gets the dig in on UM at the end....
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18 hours ago, Bobref said:
They talk some serious trash in the SEC. This is from the Facebook page of “Dawgnation.” But, is it a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
Not sure that is totally reserved for the south.....WalMart Wolverines...Pure Michigan
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10 hours ago, temptation said:
Folks also like to dump on Harbaugh’s bowl record which I guess is valid though I’ll debate that outside of the playoff, bowl games are largely irrelevant now.
Franklin’s bowl record on the other hand (particularly NY6 bowls) is also a misnomer as he matched up against MEMPHIS and caught an Utah team minus Cam Rising for most of the game in last year’s Rose Bowl.
Guy is a phony.
As a close friend that is a central PA boy and a PSU alum repeatedly tells me...Franklin can recruit a bit, but sure can't coach.....
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Top 3 Indiana 6A teams are 64, 70, and 74
Hopefully, 2 of the 3 keep moving up...shame 64 and 74 play the opening game of their sectional.
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Sure has a decent sized staff. QC coaches....wonder what is considered as acceptable quality??
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14 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:
Neither should be coaching a B10 program.
If they fire Allen just to promote Kevin Wright, well I'm done lol.
Agreed 100%. Heck, Wright hasn't been able to get promoted to the OC role at IU under Allen, let along HC.
1 minute ago, BTF said:I'm just wondering why he's still the tight ends coach after four years. Is he just waiting his turn in line? Certainly he has more to offer a program than coaching the tight ends. Maybe he's content with low stress, good pay? I'm not promoting him as the next coach at IU, I just think he's probably smarter than the guy he works for.
That's fair...agree with that....but just don't see Wright being considered as HC of a Power 5 program without being a coordinator. But, who knows??
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2 hours ago, Footballking16 said:
I'd be all-in on Hartline. Kane Wommack is quietly having a great start to his career at South Alabama after a good stint as Indiana's DC a few years back. You could convince me 64 year old Willie Fritz at Tulane as a 4-5 year band aid solution is a better option.
The difference in buy-out between the end of this season and the end of next season is $12million. And while that may seem like a lot, especially if they fire him after this year with his $20million buyout, it's paid over the course of his remaining contract shelf life (5 years). Indiana is about to see a major media revenue boost to start next season when these PAC12 teams are set to join. Current deal is around ~$60 million and figures estimate the new deal to be around ~$90mil a year.
Indiana can "afford" to fire Tom Allen after this year. The real question is, does Indiana actually want to invest in the program. I'm talking a brand new practice/indoor facility. A weight room that is exclusive to the football team (they share with other sports). And just an overall salary pool increase to not only attract, but keep quality assistants. You can fire Tom Allen and the next guy might be better, but nothing is going to last until the latter happens. And it may never happen.
No disagreement with the buyout...I was talking more about spending the $$ to bring an outstanding established head coach from a Power 5 school. Jonathan Smith (Oregon State HC) Jake Dikert (Washington St HC) are not going to be cheap to bring in. Smith maybe a pipe dream given he's an Oregon St alum, but Dikert is a Wisconsin guy and IU no reason couldn't get him back to the midwest. But IU would need to spend some $$ on football.
Temp's 6A Tournament Predictions
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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You do know CG played in and won some state championships in the state's highest classifications at the time (both 5A and 6A) when they had enrollments below 2500?