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17 hours ago, Bobref said:
I get it … but please don’t call me “Bobby.”
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2 hours ago, FastpacedO said:
I don't disagree at all. It was without a doubt. I personally think the OC was looking that hey we have hit some big passes on them and they probably aren't expecting the pass. The biggest problem is it should have been relayed DO NOT throw to Zachary's side of the field. The best option would have been to run and punt. There was definitely a pucker effect after the pick six.
Ben Davis' greatest enemy was the clock down 3 scores. The pick 6 not only reduced the gap, but reduced the size of the clock enemy. Just not smart...put the ball in the hands of a Mr. Football candidate....eat clock, punt if needed and flip the field. Their defense had been solid all game. The decision to pass almost seems like you don't trust your D.
You just don't give a team a reason to believe..........
Complete head scratcher......
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3 hours ago, temptation said:
Washington has now struggled mightily and benefitted from some close calls two straight weeks against inferior competition since the big win over Oregon.
I hope we get to see that rematch.
Their schedule is tough going down the stretch with USC, Utah, Oregon St and Washington St remaining. Trojans and Beavers on the road.
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1 hour ago, temptation said:
Yep, and you’ll find out soon enough.
2015: Harbaugh was not coming to Michigan. No way. He was going to stay in the NFL and go to Oakland.
MSM: wrong
2020: Michigan is working on firing Harbaugh, and has a potential list of replacements due to the 2-4 COVID season…
MSM: wrong
2022: Harbaugh to the Vikings is basically a done deal.
MSM: wrong
2023: the sign stealing scandal is the worst thing to happen to college football since SMU, Michigan is a lone wolf in doing this and will get hammered.
Stay tuned.
The mainstream media has gotten every one of these stories wrong and the local reporters, whom I follow and I’m connected with have hit an home run every time.
You'll see…again.
I won’t see again because I didn’t give a rats a$$ about all the items you listed. All I know is this year, his choices have put him in the crosshairs.
I’m indifferent about the guy and UM. But TCU had no incentive to lie. Game in the past and they beat the Wolverines. If the program is proven guilty, hope they pay the piper.
But you sir, are a homer. Just admit it. Because it’s obvious.
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1 hour ago, BTF said:
Devastating for the coaches and players. From a fans point of view, watching your team, the best team in the state, totally dominate the second best team in the state for three quarters then watch it all fall apart. Football can be cruel. A big shout out to Brownsburg though. Kudos for putting together the best team in the state this year, I guess you can hang your hat on that.
I didn't see the game...but can anyone explain why Brownsburg put the ball in the air, leading to a pick 6 that flipped the game around? Up 25-7 with about 7 min or so left in Q4 with one of the best RB's in the state, and someone decides pass is the best option? Defense holding the Giants to 7 halfway through the Q4. On the outside, has me scratching my head.
I didn't see, so perhaps good reason to air the ball. Would love some context from someone there or who watched game. Thanks!
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2 hours ago, temptation said:
Wait on the facts. Bet you’re surprised.
if you say so....I know you are clearly connected and in the "know".....
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22 hours ago, LC_Bears_04 said:
Avon over Pike by 7
Ben Davis 38, Brownsburg 27
Fishers over Homestead by 21
Center Grove over Franklin Central by 17
Hamilton SE over FW Northrop by 56
LN over LC by 7
Noblesville over Zionsville by 10
Cathedral over North Central by 49
Warren Central over Perry Meridian by 14
Westfield over Carmel by 10
Nice...if not for a 1pt Pike win, you ran the table.....
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Well, this just proved that models are fun. They may be more accurate than not....but ultimately, champions are crowned on the field of play.
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53 minutes ago, temptation said:
An indictment of Ryan Day as a coach.
That’s what this is all about.
🤣 Yeah, that’s what it is all about….🤦♂️
Delusional.
BTW, I’m no OSU fan…
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7 hours ago, temptation said:
Oh, I’ve seen it.
Another narrative.
“TCU scored 51 points”, lol…
It was really 37…and it took them 15 drives to do so.
You're all about boxscores huh?
Try watching the games.
The result of that game had little to do with “sign stealing.”
I watched the entire game. You can believe the statements by TCU describing how they were aware of Michigan’s antics and changed their signs or not. I don’t care Homer.
Grow up Peter Pan…Count Chocula! 😆
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45 minutes ago, temptation said:
What specifically?
Easy to find the articles and the main theme
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8 minutes ago, temptation said:
What opponents?
Notice nearly every coach nationwide has shrugged their shoulders or is downplaying the severity of the incident.
ONE opponent (the one who hired the outside firm because his job depends on the result November 25th) is saying what you are implying and driving the narrative. Teams don’t want the NCAA on their doorstep or digging for the skeletons in their closet so they are remaining pretty tight lipped.
Of course they disassociated from him. You don’t continue to employ him in an ongoing investigation.
As I said, prepare for disappointment when the punishment is not as severe as the embellishment from the media.expects.
Guessing you don’t believe the TCU story
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1 hour ago, temptation said:
As I said, let’s allow it to play out.
You’re getting your daily drip of news from BSPN, Yahoo and the WaPo…
If these current times have taught you anything, it’s to be careful with your sources.
No, I care more about what opponents are saying, Michigan’s quick actions to disassociate from the individual in question, and the NCAA’s presence.
Nice try…
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2 hours ago, temptation said:
If the Wolverines run the table without "sign guy" including convincing wins over PSU and OSU what's that say?
….that Jimmy shouldn’t have cheated???
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Looks like forecast currently for friday night is 60% showers and scattered thunderstorms for the Indy area. Will be interesting if weather plays any type of factor in the outcome.
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Another ESPN update....
The scope of the alleged illicit scouting ring being orchestrated by suspended Michigan analyst Connor Stalions continues to grow, as sources told ESPN on Tuesday that he bought tickets for games at four schools outside of the Big Ten that were either in College Football Playoff contention or playing contenders.
There also is record of Stalions buying tickets to the 2021 and 2022 SEC title games, sources told ESPN. The tickets to the SEC title games were purchased on the secondary market, according to sources.
ESPN also learned that Stalions, who is at the center of an NCAA investigation into Michigan's alleged sign-stealing operation, bought tickets to a 12th Big Ten school, as sources at 12 of the 13 possible Big Ten schools have a record of Stalions buying a ticket there. ESPN reported on Monday there were 11 schools.
According to four sources, all of the tickets for games outside the Big Ten involved CFP contenders and were purchased either toward the middle or end of the 2022 season, as Michigan was headed to the College Football Playoff for the second consecutive season.
The Big Ten announced last week that Michigan (8-0, 5-0) is under NCAA investigation for the alleged sign-stealing operation. The Wolverines are the No. 2 team in the country and the current betting favorite to win the national title.
ESPN has confirmed that Stalions has purchased tickets to more than 35 games at 17 stadiums around the country. He has used a network of at least three people, who were forwarded the tickets to attend games.
A source told ESPN on Tuesday that the NCAA has been sent at least an hour of video evidence that shows a person sitting in a seat appearing to video the home sideline with a smartphone. Stalions purchased the ticket for that seat. The video is expected to be used as part of the investigation to show that electronics were used in the signal-stealing ring, according to sources.
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9 minutes ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:
Sure, there is no disagreement that football is the dominant male sport in our country. But, I found it interesting how it appears that Penn and Carmel maybe a reflection of situations. Large school populations (Penn still fields a large team) but overall talent is not the same as years prior. I assume Carmel's overall number of players is still high.
Is it a cycle for this current batch of players in the school? Is it something being played out in the homes? Could it be something within the program itself that is causing the teams to be not as competitive to their normal standards?
I think Penn's issue is they cannot recruit their (within their school) best players. I also believe, while they have a developmental football league, the high school staff is not as involved with that league as they used to be. When Geesman was around, he and his staff were around the games, not every game but enough to where we kids took notice. We ran the base elements of the Penn offense....From what I am hearing from boosters and others this is not the case right now.
I think these are great questions and illustrates the point that its more than about size....possibly several factors, not to mention a culture change. Penn has dominated in baseball recently with back to back state champions. Why is that? What is driving baseball success? To your point, I think several factors have to be evaluated.
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15 minutes ago, temptation said:
Just pushing back on the "you have 5000+ students, you SHOULD dominate" theory pushed by some.
I don't know who stated they should dominate over 5000+...but I do know what you stated....and tried to push it as fact with your comments about the Carmel sports success. I just disagree that your magical number of 5000+ is detrimental to their football success. That has been proven wrong as they've already won a state championship (if that is the only measure of success) since being a school of 5000+. I shared with you Allen High School in Texas dominance in football as a significantly larger high school than Carmel. As Grover and other questioned, is there a law of diminishing returns over a certain amount of students? I'll buy into that....simply took exceptions to your firm 5000+ theory as detrimental to a football programs success.
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2 hours ago, temptation said:
The public schools listed have a disadvantaged population in the sweet spot of roughly 20-35%.
Carmel is the outlier.
Where can I go to review these schools "disadvantaged population" percentages assuming one buys into your "socioeconomic" theory?
In your mind, Carmel is really screwed for football. Too many "soft wealthy kids" contribute to a much too large student body.
Getting back to your theory that 5000+ students is the kiss of death for football success, ever hear of Allen High School in Texas?
The school's football team -- the defending state champs in Texas' largest classification -- just won its 30th straight game. Since the program made national news by opening its $60 million stadium in 2012, the Eagles haven't lost at home.
Allen has won five state football titles over the last 10 years, a decade of success that ranks among the best-ever runs in Texas high school football history.
Allen is a juggernaut, in the truest sense. And so is its high school.
Allen has nearly 6,700 students from 9th to 12th grade -- the largest high school in the state by 1,000 students -- and one of the largest in the nation.
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54 minutes ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:
This seems to make sense, because the word is that Penn's best don't play football anymore. Rather than playing multiple sports, more students are specializing and that is taking away from the talent pool that Penn had the benefit of picking from. Also, a lot of parents up in our area just think football is going to lead to long term health issues, and prevent their children from participating in the sport.
My child attends a local catholic middle school up here, and I was helping with the schools middle school football team, from what I was told just in the last five years they went from a team of two deep to no longer being a team. We were so low on numbers we were absorbed by another school.
Soccer participation is up in these schools and Lax participation is up as well. Football is declining. I am not shocked that Carmel may be suffering from parents who think they are doing what is best for their child and even specialization.
Not disagreeing with you and that may well be the case for Penn. But with data as current as Sept 2023, that is contridictory to what is now being experienced nationally.
Participation in high school sports eclipsed 7.8 million in the 2022-23 school year, reflecting a sharp increase from the previous year as the NFHS completed its High School Athletics Participation Survey for a second time after the pandemic interrupted its collection of data.
Eleven-player football remained the most popular boys sport with the total climbing back over one million participants. The total of 1,028,761 participants marks an increase of 54,969 and 5.6 percent from the previous year. Not only did 11-player football top the one million mark, this year’s increase was the first in the sport since 2013 and only the second increase since the all-time high of 1,112,303 in 2008-09. There also was a slight gain (34,935 to 35,301) in the number of boys in 6-, 8- and 9-player football.
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1 hour ago, temptation said:
I think it’s becoming a bit of a culture at Carmel. This’ll piss @Footballking16 off but I’ve long been a believer that socioeconomic status determines, in large part, how successful a school’s athletic program is…
Carmel has the opposite problem of Tech. Their disadvantaged population (just under 10 percent at last check) is a detriment in football because those kids simply don’t have the same “grit” as districts in the sweet spot of 20-35%. Football (safety issues) has become the devil to “soccer moms” in many areas and Carmel likely has more than its fair share of those compared to other areas.
Once again another theory…that I’ll get skull dragged for.
Tee off.
Interesting theory.
So why aren't we seeing decline at schools like Brownsburg, Westfield, HSE, CG, Fishers, Cathedral, Chatard, Bloomington schools, etc. Is there something different about Carmel? Am I too believe that if Kevin Wright or Mo returned, they couldn't bring them back? Coaches like Eric Moore, Kyle Ralph, etc. would fail at Carmel?
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11 hours ago, temptation said:
There simply a point of diminishing returns once you reach a certain number.
Another hypothetical: What if Carmel were split into two schools of 2700?
I’m betting both schools’ record averages out to be just over .500 unless you “filter” the football players one place and certain athletes gravitate towards one school.
There is little difference between 2500 and 5000…much less than 1000 to 3500 or 1500 to 4000.
This isn’t that hard. Stop getting your feelings hurt. CG is damn good. You’re taking this as some sort of slight against the Trojans. I respect their program more so than any other program in the state.
You also don’t like me and are letting emotions dictate your outrage. It’ll be ok. I promise.
You constantly return to hiding behind that rock. Has nothing to do with that...just don't always buy into your opinionated theories. Carmel has won many state championships in a variety of sports since their enrollment has been 5000+ to include football and basketball. I provided you the clear cut data to prove this position. You have providing nothing.
Prove statistically the difference in team performance with enrollments between 4500, 4700, 4900, 5100, etc.
People can be indifferent about you, and not swallow your fodder. Feelings aren't hurt, you just haven't done a very good job of selling your thoughts. Your opinions don't equal fact. Please don't let that hurt your feelings.
Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar
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Not as much as they wanted when playing TCU last year in the CFP.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2023/10/27/23934696/michigan-tcu-sign-stealing-college-football
So what did TCU do? They put together a system of dummy signals and more, hoping to throw the Wolverines off. TCU mixed in some new signals with the old ones, instructing players to ignore the previous signals and call plays associated with the new signals.
But that was not all the Horned Frogs did. They also would at times use two different signals, sending in one play with the new signs, “freezing” the play, and then signaling in a second, dummy play using the old signs. Players were instructed to run the play as first called with the new signs, but the hope was that Michigan would buy the second signals, the ones they potentially knew.
They also tried sending in plays late in the play clock, to prevent Michigan from having enough time to adjust.
The plan worked, in part, as TCU beat Michigan 51-45 to advance to the National Championship Game. As found by Dellenger: