Robert

3 minutes ago, DT said:

Fish?

That's what we do.

21 hours ago, DT said:

I thought high school kids accepted full ride Division 1 scholarships to play football.  

Man we are getting soft.

 

Next, you're going to tell us something like this:

Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

18 hours ago, DT said:

I cant remember seeing a Portage kid go D1 in some time.  Talking primarily P5.  

18 hours ago, DT said:

They had a lot of MAC kids in those years.  I havent seen that in a while

19 hours ago, DT said:

Unfortunately, Coach Rodriguez just didnt get the job done.

Portage has been undersized for a long time.  Lots of hispanics in the area.  They need a good strength and conditioning coach to assist the HC and develop bodies for varsity football.  The football culture at Portage is gone.  Portage has not had a D1 kid in years.  This is a tough job.  Maybe the toughest in The DAC.  They may have some difficulty finding good applicants.

I didn't catch that. 

48 minutes ago, WWFan said:

Find it interesting they list him as a FB. Wonder if IU plans to bulk him up and play him there. Also curious what his 40 is. If they think he can get around 250 and can run they could switch to TE down the line. Regardless recruiting/scouting isnt an exact science. Time will tell. Someone will always say "I told you so" in couple years, but I tend to trust the people who do it for a living. 

Had a guy like him at Luers a few decades ago.  Went to be a Spartan, but ended up the FB for Anthony Thompson and Vaughn Dunbar.  

40 minutes ago, BARRYOSAMA said:

He is listed at 5'10 or 5'11" on every recruiting site.....including the one you posted....LOL

Yeah, go stand next to Blaine Bishop. 

1 hour ago, MHSTigerFan said:

Well, I worded that poorly.

I agree that any prospect rated there isn’t getting a cold shoulder from the schools themselves.  I was thinking more about the folks who do these evaluations.

I always get a healthy dose of satisfaction when a high-rated prospect tanks and/or a low-rated prospect thrives.

And while it’s certainly true that the lion’s share of NFL stars came from prestigious programs (they’re more often right than wrong), I love that the arguably best player in NFL history went to Mississippi Valley State.

Love Deacon Jones.  Tee-hee.

Just now, Muda69 said:

Yes.

 

i have a hard time underestimating you.

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

Knock yourself out.  At least I choose to stay and contribute to the community instead of fleeing after a short while.

 

Shall I spell it out for you?  My ex moved to South Bend, so I moved back so the kids didn't have to change schools.  Plus, the pay is about $10K lower in Frankfort.  Is that fleeing?  

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

Compromise, friend.  You need to learn about politics................

 

Cox seems to be learning to compromise.  He should see by now that 2 years isn't long enough or maybe the points are screwy.   

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

Whining?  I don't think so, friend.   I recall probably a third or more of the names on this past season's roster being of Hispanic origin.  Great!   90+% of the names on the soccer team's roster were of Hispanic origin.  Basketball looks to be about 20-25%.

 

I don't know if I can go back as many years on the digest to find the proof.  I'll go on the wayback machine during winter break.  

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

But the "Success factor" got accomplished, didn't it?

 

It's interesting that they haven't seen that the coach version is a better version.  

I also wanted to chime in that some of the best athletes at Luers were not rich at all and some of the best athletes at Luers were very rich!  🙂

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

Quite the hyperbolic statement coming from you, Robert.  Where will this population go? Many of them have lived in Frankfort for decades,  I have been told that the relatively recent influx of immigrants came to Frankfort because they already had family here.    Would Milan and Maumee townships in Allen county welcome this population with open arms should they all decide to leave Frankfort/Clinton county?

 

Maybe simplification.  Be happy for them, instead of whining because some of them don't want to play football and they push your team up into a higher class.  Better yet, find someone to tap in.  I think Woodlan would welcome them, yes.  Sherwood will teach them. 

1 hour ago, QB said:

When I was in MS our Varsity football team won 6 games in 4 years and had less than 30 kids on the team. We hired a new coach my freshman year and by my Junior year was playing for the state championship with over 60 kids on a 1A roster. 

At a 1A or 2A school it only takes a couple of good classes or a coach that instills belief into the program for numbers to turn it around. Was the school supposed to close the doors on the program after 5 years of ineptitude and historically low numbers? In my opinion, success and numbers, especially at a small school level is cyclical. There were maybe 2-3 kids on my state championship team that would have played at a larger school, if the administration would have given up on the program it would have deprived the other 60+ kids the opportunity to be a part of something special. 

This is true.  I have a friend who has a kid who sits on the bench at Snider.  I guarantee you he would have started as a sophomore at Luers.  

3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Primarily #1.  Many p/p fanatics like to play the martyr and proclaim how much they have financially 'sacrificed' to send their child(ren) to p/p school, all the while also being forced by the state to pay for traditional government schools.

That said, the caliber of a student at a p/p is generally higher.  It's the old "I'm paying a lot of money for you to attend this school,  so you better excel and also do X, Y, & Z!!!!!"  While to many parents government schools are really nothing more that a "free" babysitting service.

 

1/2 a like.

17 hours ago, Bobref said:

You have a legitimate point of view. You might want to consider having your posts proofread before you post. The misspellings, bad grammar, lack of agreement, and punctuation errors distract readers from the message.

As a teacher, I understand that not everyone exceeds in literacy.

🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWTtsxPbaVI

3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

So the main purpose of a government school is to be a defacto jobs program for the general populace?

As I have stated before Frankfort High School is basically a 4A sized school with a 2A-small 3A athletic talent base.  A various socioeconomic factors have to play into that.   If you want to call the "veiled racist comments" the so be it.  I personally have no issues with the Hispanic population in Frankfort.  If I did I wouldn't have moved there 20+ years ago.  Most are hard working, honest individuals just trying to provide for their family.  Used to live next to a run-down "slum lord" apartment property.  Always had a cordial relationship with most of the Hispancie residents.  The frankly "white trash" types were the ones who caused all the trouble.

Many questions about the juvenile shooting.  #1 being why wasn't the firearm property secured?  #2 Were these three juveniles currently enrolled at the local government school and if so, why were they not attending it at 10am in the morning as prescribed by law?

 

No, the main purpose of a government school is not that.  I'm simply stating that if you lose that population, you're town dies.  Perhaps it wasn't racism, but innuendo that that population can not be taught to play American tackle football.  You and I both know which children cause the trouble in town and school.  I'm not sure of which background those kids playing with the gun were.  I also wonder why the authorities didn't follow up on attendance.  Perhaps the parents called them in.  

Sometimes there are what I perceive to be veiled racist comments about the population of Frankfort.  As I did when I worked there, I'll simply calmly point out that that 4A number would probably be 2A if that population would have never come there, possibly even 1A and the town would be where?  How many teachers wouldn't have jobs?  Bus drivers? Custodians?  Football coaches?  And the chain reaction begins.  The football woes have been blamed on being a minority majority district where the majority minority is Hispanic, if you follow that.  Sad to see that three juveniles were involved in a shooting just a couple of days ago.  Sad.  

22 hours ago, DT said:

Contraction is Contraction

It comes in various forms

Shelbyville and Noll both contracted due to poor results.  many factors contributed to the contyraction, but the end result on the field is what drove both schools to suspend their programs.

 

Is this economics or high school football?  

59 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Soooooo, what you are saying is that the 1,000 or so kids at Dwenger is basically the same as the 1,000 or so at New Haven? Both are 4A schools......with the ONLY difference than the “traditional commitment and drive to win”??????? Seriously? Take one day to walk our halls, and I guarantee that impression will change in a heartbeat.

As others have said, committed parents make a HUGE difference, no doubt about it. What has been basically ignored, outside of a post or two, is the special needs population. Our building alone has about 10% of its population in that category. Very few of them are on diploma track. With certificate track kids in our building the absolute highest possible rate for graduation is at 92%. And there are a number of those kids that have minimal skills. The special education staff in our building makes up 25% of our staff. The new pathways to graduation our ingenious politicians came up with has forced even more lower functioning students into gen ed classes. In one class alone, I have close to half the class that are low functioning. Communication skills are the level of a 2 or 3 year old. I have others in that group that do not communicate at all, are confined to wheelchairs, wear a bib to catch the drool coming out of their mouths, or have other severe disabilities. It fits the schedules of the paras and nurses that have to accompany these students to have them in one period, but they make up 10% of my population for this semester. 
Now who wants to continue the conversation about the REAL differences? And who still actually thinks you are somehow being “punished” for success? When you want to have a REAL conversation about who gets punished for what when schools are classified, let me know. 

The lawmakers and IHSAA don't have equitability in mind, that is for sure.   

5 minutes ago, DT said:

I think it does.  It opens up the potential for post season success for a whole new group of schools.  And we will see some new matchups in Division 2 that we have not seen before.  

I don't see CG having a cakewalk every year if they fall to 6A Division 2.  There are a lot of good programs in that group.  

Won't the 2 year Success Factor keep them up?

12 hours ago, gonzoron said:

It does. Too bad the GID doesn't have a "hate" button for those who are passionate with their dislike.

It's got those suicide and middle finger buttons.

5 hours ago, djbowzz said:

To do 4 games in a day the first game would have to start at 8am or the last game start at 11pm midnight...  That would be the first strike against this idea...

Michigan does it.  10, 1, 4:30, 7:30

On 11/23/2019 at 10:15 PM, hunter63 said:

ok I don't understand that Southridge wins state in 17 goes to semi-state 18 they have to move up to 3a, WeBo wins state in 18 goes back in 19 why don't they move up(me missing something here) just asking cause if they move up would they be in north or south 3a 

The coaches wanted a 4 year cycle.  Cox, or however you spell that, wanted 2. 

13 minutes ago, Robert said:

Factually incorrect and very opinionated.  😀

7 minutes ago, Robert said:

This is more factual.  

This is more factual.   They would have scored, even as unsophisticated, biased and pot stirring as I am, I could see that.  Instead, the Stars threw a TD pass on the very next play.  Bad call directly led to that margin of victory

5 hours ago, GBpanther63 said:

If i remember correctly the backwards pass was with only about 3 minutes left in the game when eastbrook was down 27-20. not early in the game at all

This is more factual.  

7 hours ago, Bobref said:

He’s talking about a single play early in the game last year in which a backward pass was incorrectly ruled an incomplete forward pass. Had it been ruled correctly, it likely would have been an Eastbrook recovery, and it’s possible they would have even scored on the play. The play has been dissected on the GID. It was the wrong call but, under the circumstances which, again, were discussed extensively, it was a difficult call. It was one play - a big play, no doubt - but only one play early in a game that ended up 34-20. The only people who can blame that outcome on officiating are either blindly biased fans, people unsophisticated in the ways of football, or people only interested in stirring the pot. Don’t know which category he belongs in.

As far as selection of officials for the tournament is concerned, this document explains the process:

http://www.ifoa.us/Resources/Documents/H-8 IHSAA Policy for Selection of Officials for Football

Tournament Series AMENDED 71113.pdf

If you have specific questions about the selection process, I’ll try to answer them. But it suffices to say that the process is quite controversial, and the subject of much debate in the officiating community, primarily because of what is viewed as disproportionate weight given to coaches’ rating of officials.

 

Factually incorrect and very opinionated.  😀