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16 minutes ago, southend said:
Dale Indiana, Betag is the mayor there, right? I think HH in this one.
I don't think we have a mayor just a town board.
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12 minutes ago, Donnie Baker said:
How far from Santa Claus to Stink Town?
Maps says its anywhere from 164.9 miles to 184.0 miles from the town I live in Dale depending on route you take.
Edited my original post to include scoring averages and margin
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Heritage Hills Patriots 12-0 at Lawrenceburg Tigers 11-1
This is the first meeting between the Patriots and Tigers. Heritage Hills was ranked 2nd in the final AP and IFCA polls and Lawrenceburg was ranked 8th in the final IFCA poll and 9th in the final AP poll.
Sagarin power poll has the Patriots ranked 46th in the state all classes and the Tigers ranked 75th in the state. Sagarin has the Heritage Hills schedule ranked the 143rd toughest in the state and the Lawrenceburg schedule the 184th toughest in the state.
Lawrenceburg is 15th in the state in offensive average 41.08 ppg and 46th in defensive average 14.92 ppg.
Heritage Hills is 17th in offensive average 40.92 ppg and 2nd in defensive average 6.67 ppg.
Margin HH is 4th 34.25 and Lawrenceburg 24th 26.17
Stat leaders for Lawrenceburg through 11 games.
Sophomore QB Yoon has completed 124 out of 193 passes for 2017 yards with 26 touchdowns & 8 interceptions. Yoon also has rushed 100 times for 946 yards and 12 touchdowns.
Junior RB Burd has 223 rushes for 1526 yards and 20 touchdowns.
Heritage Hills stat leaders through 12 games
Senior QB Sigler has completed 34 out of 59 passes for 612 yards with 8 touchdowns and 1 interception. Sigler also has 89 rushes for 854 yards and 9 touchdowns.
Senior FB Wetzel has 115 rushes for 916 yards and 13 touchdowns.
Senior FB/WB Rodgers has 96 rushes for 589 yards and 19 touchdowns.
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On 11/5/2019 at 3:17 PM, RoadRunner said:
I'm sure that this topic has been approached in the past, but why is there still home field advantage in the tournament after sectional? IMO, Regional & Semi-State should be played on neutral site between the two schools. Since there is no Sectional Rankings, how do they decide who gets homefield?
Basketball and Baseball do it, why can't football?
I'm all for neutral sites but basketball isn't always neutral sites for regional. Schools like Washington , Southridge etc... that are in the regional host rotations still have the chance to play on their home floors the years they host if they win sectional. Southridge host sectional and regional this year in Boys basketball , Washington doesn't host sectional but if they win the Vincennes sectional they would host the Regional. True neutral sites would be playing 2A regional at Washington and 3A Regional at Southridge etc..., Still using larger gyms but ensuring no team has chance to host past sectional.
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Heritage Hills forced 2 punts in the final 6 minutes and the push of the line was major contributor in the blocked field goal so if they were tired it didn't affect the performance.
As far as if number 15 wasn't on the team well all teams have players that if you lose its not the same team, You can say the same about number 13 for Gibson, In the 2 games against HH this season he had 323 of the Titans 471 rushing yards and scored 3 of their 5 touchdowns.
Number 13 did even better then that against us in sectional last season rushing for 213 yards and 99 receiving and 2 touchdowns. Not easy beating a good team twice especially when 2nd game is on the road but this team toughed it out and found a way to win the game, Everything they needed to do they did in the final 6 minutes. First needed defensive stops and forced 2 punts, Needed big returns on the punts and got em first by Feldpausch and 2nd by Sigler, Needed to score after the returns and got a 25 yards TD run from Sigler and 18 yard td run from Wetzel taking away any chance for another Titan goal line stand and finally needed to block the kick, Shouldn't have needed to block the kick because watching the plays on video clips it looked like the fumble in the Titans 1st scoring drive and on the Titans final drive were both recovered by HH but those things happen in football and this senior dominated team fought threw it.
Titans are a great program and it stinks that 2 ranked teams play in 2nd round while a 1 win team that use to be in this sectional is playing for sectional title because they were stuck in 1 of the weakest sectionals in state but it is what it is .
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12 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said:
Oh wow...I didn’t know it was that many guys for HH. That’s absolutely insane.
well I wish you guys the best and for you guys to send this class out on top.
The 2 teams that were able to beat Gibson Southern twice in the Wilkerson era 2014 and 2019 have 1 thing in common, Loaded with Seniors the one difference 2014 had a Junior named Kenton Crews.
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1 minute ago, Patriot 74 said:
Just Chris is done!!! Coach Joachim is a lifer!! No chance he’s done yet
Need the love option for this post.
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5 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said:
Looks right to me...I think Tri West won it all in 2014 too
for Gibson Southern since Hart took over...there have been 84 wins and 15 losses
5 losses now to Heritage Hills (the most)
3 losses to Memorial
2 losses to Chatard.
Thats 11/15...not so bad but the message is clear....GIbson Southern continues to have the horses to win it all, they just seem to fall short when facing the historic 3A powerhouses.
ohhhh maybe next year lol. I hope so. Got plenty of good Kids in the ranks. Have a lot of holes to fill too. This current Junior class will need to step up more knowing about 70-75% of the team will graduate. I’m sure they will be busting tail in this offseason with the underclassmen.
Not as many holes as we have to fill , We lose 11 starters on offense and 10 on defense . Also rumor is Offensive Coordinator Stan Jochim who is in his 37th season coaching at HH and Defensive Coordinator Chris Sigler who is in his 31st season coaching at Heritage Hills will both resign after this season.
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1 hour ago, hhpatriot04 said:
Ball is dead on any kick in high school the moment it crosses the goal line. It would be a touch back. GS ball on their 20 if there was time left.
Don't you mean HH ball on GS 20 ?? Pretty sure officials wouldn't pick ball up in end zone and move it 80 yards to the GS 20.
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Its not easy beating a good team twice and the Patriots were trying to do it on the road against a team they throttled in the first in the first meeting, Patriots controlled the first quarter and the final 6 minutes of the 4th quarter everything else was all Titans.
Game was going so well at the started Patriots were up 7-0 and had a 1st and goal and was stopped just inches from the goal line on a play I thought they broke the plain but it was very close, Looked like Patriots had the ball back after a Titan fumble but after the officials talked about it for what seemed like several minutes they ruled down before the fumble so instead of Patriots having a redo in the Red Zone the Titans had the ball back and eventually scored on the drive and tied the game 7-7 and after that it was all Titans until the final 6 minutes of the game.
Patriots faced a lot of adversity last night Two-Way starting lineman Hunter Wetzel left with a injury and didn't return as did two-way starting DB-RB Gavin Vaal who is the fastest of the Patriot running backs and were facing a determined Titan team that outplayed them for 2½ quarters. Not having trailed all season you never know how a team will react when getting behind for the first time and the Patriots were behind 14-7 and 20-7 and it looked like the season would end in at Gibson Southern for the 2nd straight season but not this year with this Senior dominated team, In the 4th quarter Patriots get a long punt return by Feldpausch followed by Sigler 25-yard TD run, Then on defense force another punt and have a long Sigler return followed by Wetzel 18-yard TD run and led 21-20 but left too much time on clock.
On the Titan drive it looked like the Titans had turned the ball over but again ruled down before the fumble and the Titans had a 2nd life and attempted a 25-yard field goal for the win that was blocked.
Patriots win in one of the best games I have witnessed in my 40 years watching Patriot football. Tough way too lose a game and have to feel for the Titans who played so well for most of the game but in the end the Patriots policy of playing their top players on Offense-Defense and Special teams all 3 was the difference because like so many times in the past the Patriots made huge plays on special teams.
Doesn't get any easier with another re-match against a ranked conference rival coming up in the championship. Great game Titans and I'm so proud of the Patriots on the unbelievable comeback.
With the win Coach Wilkerson now trails Coach Hart 5-6 in head to head meetings, Titans are 3-1 at Heritage Hills during that period and the Patriots are 4-3 at Gibson Southern.
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Brady Allen had the fewest yards in his career by 1 yard completing 8 of 13 passes for 103 yards, Previous low was 104 yards VS Henderson County in 2018 but difference is the Henderson game he just struggled going 13 out of 30 this game the Titans were more content to take what the defense gave them and seemed like ran a ton of sweeps and severial of the passes attempted were screen passes.
On the final play it looked like the blocked field goal rolled in the end zone and Titans fell on it, Is that a live ball ?? Curious because in one of the videos on Twitter noticed one of the Titan coaches was in the face of a official.
I know I should ask that in the officials section but too lazy after only sleeping 2½ to 3 hours last night.
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Not sure If I will be writing something like this up next season with a 13 team conference 😀
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PAC Boys Basketball 2019-20
Forest Park
The Rangers return 3 starters from last year including one PAC honorable mention selection.
Drew Howard- Drew was selected PAC HM and averaged 8.5 ppg.
Issac Uebelhor- Issac averaged 10.8 ppg in limited action due to injury but the Rangers were a much better team in the games he played.
Simon Jacob- Simon averaged 9.3 ppg.
Before the Hopf transfer I figured Forest Park would challenge Southridge as the top contender to try and unseat 2 time defending PAC champion Heritage Hills.
Gibson Southern
I couldn’t fine any stats for Gibson Southern but the return 3 starters Taylor Johanningsmeier, Aidan Neel and Adam May.
Heritage Hills
The Patriots return four starters including 3 All PAC selections.
Murray Becher- Murray is a 4th year starter and averaged 20.4 ppg.
Simon Scherry- Simon is a 3rd year starter and averaged 15.6 ppg.
Blake Sisley- Blake is a 3rd year starter and averaged 12.8 ppg.
Cole Sigler- Cole is a 2nd year starter and averaged 7.6 ppg.
North Posey
The Vikings return two starters including 1 ALL PAC and 1 PAC HM selection.
Joshiah Ricketts- Joshiah was selected ALL PAC and averaged 22.7 ppg.
Jonathan Ricketts- Jonathon was PAC honorable mention and averaged 9.4 ppg.
Viking could be a dangerous opponent if they can find other scoring options to go with the inside outside combo of the Rickett brothers.
Pike Central
The Chargers return 2 starters Ethan Scott 9.0 ppg & Ethan Gorby 3.3 ppg.
Southridge
The Raiders return 2 starters including one All PAC selection.
Colson Montgomery- Colson was selected All PAC and averaged 21.1 ppg.
Garrett Voegerl- Garrett averaged 3.7 ppg.
Montgomery is one of the top players in the state and Vorgerl and Gasser are unbelievable athletes the question is what do they have after that ?
South Spencer
The Rebels return 4 starters including 1 All PAC selection and 1 PAC HM selection.
Couldn’t find stats for the Rebels but the returning starters are All PAC Jace Kelly HM PAC Kobe Bartlett, Matthew Smith and Michael Donoho.
South Spencer guard play should be as good as any team in the PAC and if they can find solid post play they could contend for the title.
Tecumseh
Lost 5 starters to graduation.
Tell City
Lost 5 starters to graduation. Tell City did have a 18-3 JV team and was the only JV team to beat Heritage Hills JV who also went 18-3. HH beat TC 43-27 in the Forest Park JV
Tournament then had to play them again a few weeks later then the Marksmen won the rematch 41-22.
This is composed of memory and stats that I could find online .I cant remember much about the returning starters for Gibson Southern & Pike Central or the backups for Tecumseh to
add any thought about them.
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Evansville North added to the schedule.
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The Rebels put a scare into Heritage Hills with a freshman quarterback making what I presume was his first varsity start, they killed almost the entire first quarter on the initial drive before the Patriots stopped them on the HH 23 yard line on a 4th down play. Score was 0-0 after 1 quarter and just 14-0 with less then a minute left in the half before HH scored twice in the final 31 seconds the 2nd was after recovering a Rebel fumble.
Patriots took control after that for the 42-0 win. South spencer was just the 2nd team this season to hold HH to under 300 yards of offense the other was Forest Park the previous week.
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3 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said:
Check the film. In 2000 in the playoffs, he mostly ran a mixed offense with about 30 percent out of the wishbone and 70 percent shotgun (ask Roncalli). He had receivers to throw to who chose not to play college in D2 or even D1.
At Vandy, he threw effectively on the move, which is why only Shanahan understood that he wasn't a true pocket passer. Closer to Tebow than Breese.
Against Roncalli he had a bad sprained ankle and only practiced 2 days ,the coaches added a new set of plays because of the ankle.
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6 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said:
I mean that’s all good and true...but I’m not going to sit here and believe that turning the ball over 4 times had no impact on the game.
here are some facts
GS turned it over on downs 2 times in HH territory (HH 16 and 33 yard line)
GS turned it over in HH territory 3 times (Ints at the HH 12, 38, 45)
GS turned it over 1 time on their side of the field (Fumbled at the GS 31)
HH had 2 touchdown runs for 66 yards and 71 yards. Both QB runs on the same run play.
im not going to say that if none of those things happened that GS would have won, because that’s a bunch of ifs and thens...but let’s not pretend that GS couldn’t do anything.
another thing that got me was the game vs Southridge. The second half started 7-7...here is SRs drives.
1)3 and out....Short punt of 22 yards...1 play later HH scores 35 yards out
2) 4 plays and SR gets intercepted...2 plays later 50 yard run for the touchdown
3) 3 and out punt...2 plays later 67 yard run for HH
4) 3 and out. Punt 5 plays later, 35 yard pass touchdown
5) 1 play...it’s intercepted at the SR 21. 5 plays later they punch it in from 1 yard out
6) running clock a string of run plays SR runs out the clock on themselves.
HH is by all means a team that Is capitalizing on mistakes and cracks big plays to force other teams into panicking. If you don’t believe me go look at the jasper game. Turnover game was 2-2 for both teams and HH had to chip its way into the endzone every time, no big plays for touchdowns.
Who's pretending Gibson didn't do anything ??? You make a lot of assumptions over my 1 small comment, I didn't say Gibson didn't move the ball I was actually at all three of those games and saw every play , I know Gibson had success moving the ball just pointing out the turnovers came when the team was trying to come back from 3 touchdowns down.
as far as turnovers on downs Heritage Hills turned it over on downs also with about 1 minute left in first half on Titan 21, At the time I said it was huge for GS because we had a chance to go up 28-0 and that's a big difference then 21-0, Especially with Titans having ball to start the half. .
Also the Southridge game you talk about the game being 7-7 at half and talk about Raider mistakes in 2nd half but no mention of the HH missed chances in the 1st half, HH had a missed field goal in the first half and had 2 fumbles on another drive, we recovered both but pushed us back and ended up turning it over on downs.
HH played their 2 best games of the year against GS and SR and I'm sure if they meet 1 or both again the games will be dogfights.
Anyway I'm done talking about the first game its in the past and only reason I replied again is its hard to resist when you use words like " If you don’t believe me " making assumptions what I'm thinking over my 1 sentence reply. My only point was when you get buried like that against a good team its a huge hill to climb and Yes the turnovers hurt the Titans chance to comeback and impacted the game in that way but if you don't fall behind 3 TDs could have overcame the turnovers and had a chance to win. When a team scores the first 21 points of a game and last 21 points a game its hard to overcome..
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1 hour ago, DumfriesYMCA said:
@Wartortle14 GS has had a specific scheme for the wishbone/wing/double wing/flex for a good amount of time. In the past it has worked great. Other times it hasn’t.
I think what gets overlooked is usually the bone is used to make up for size with speed and misdirection.....But HH has both.
GS is very capable of stopping it and I don’t know many teams that run their base defense vs the bone lol. Also shouldn’t be overlooked that GSs first half of the schedule is doesn’t have bone/wing teams too much but the 2nf half has HH tell city and southridge.
bottom line. GS has to play disciplined football this week vs Southridge and next week vs Salem. They also can’t turnover the ball. HH forced 4 turnovers vs GS...so while GS put up 400 yards of offense, it was to little result.
if you turn the ball over 4 times in a game you shouldn’t be close to winning the game at all. And vs great senior led teams like HH that is what happened in a blowout loss
Btw @Wartortle14 love the name
Heritage Hills was up 21-0 before the Titans had their 1st turnover.
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Heritage Hills 8-0 at South Spencer 1-7
This is the 49th meeting between Heritage Hills and South Spencer and the Patriots lead the series 36-12. This season South Spencer is averaging 17.0 ppg and giving up 36.4 ppg while the Patriots are averaging 44.0 ppg and giving up 6.6 ppg.
Heritage Hills clinched a share of their league leading 27th PAC title with the win over Forest Park last Friday and can win the conference title outright with a win over their county rivals. South Spencer with 11 PAC titles are 2nd place behind Heritage Hills in PAC football titles with 11.
The 12 wins that South Spencer has over Heritage Hills is 2nd to Southridge for the most wins of any opponent against the Patriots. The Rebels are one of 3 teams that was on the Patriot football schedule in their inaugural season in 1972 that the Patriots have played at least once every season since.
The Rebels won 5 of the 1st 7 meetings in the series, the Patriots would win 4 of the next 5 to tie the series up 6-6 and the Rebels would regain the series lead 7-6 with a overtime win in 1984 and the series would remain tightly contested through the first 21 meetings, After a Rebel win in 1991 the Patriots led the series by a slim 11-10 margin after that loss in 91 the Patriots would win the next 19 meetings before the Rebels ended the streak with a 14-0 win in 2011.
1972 HH 21 South Spencer 20
1973 South Spencer 41 HH 3
1974 South Spencer 9 HH 7
1975 South Spencer 35 HH 7
1976 South Spencer 35 HH 2
1977 HH 19 South Spencer 7
1978 South Spencer 21 HH 14
1979 HH 14 South Spencer 2
1980 HH 48 South Spencer 0
1981 South Spencer 19 HH 13
1982 HH 27 South Spencer 0
1983 HH 28 South Spencer 6
1984 South Spencer 25 HH 19(OT)
1985 HH 31 South Spencer 14
1986 HH 26 South Spencer 13
1987 HH 20 South Spencer 7
1988 HH 20 South Spencer 17
1989 South Spencer 35 HH 7
1990 South Spencer 28 HH 0
1990 sectional HH 14 South Spencer 6
1991 South Spencer 14 HH 13
1992 HH 23 South Spencer 12
1993 HH 25 South Spencer 12
1994 HH 21 South Spencer 7
1995 HH 35 South Spencer 14
1996 HH 26 South Spencer 0
1997 HH 55 South Spencer 7
1998 HH 28 South Spencer 7
1999 HH 28 South Spencer 7
2000 HH 14 South Spencer 6
2001 HH 31 South Spencer 7
2002 Heritage Hills 41 South Spencer 7
2003 Heritage Hills 28 South Spencer 3
2004 Heritage Hills 42 South Spencer 14
2005 Heritage Hills 44 South Spencer 0
2006 Heritage Hills 28 South Spencer 8
2007 Heritage Hills 31 South Spencer 7
2008 Heritage Hills 23 South Spencer 0
2009 Heritage Hills 13 South Spencer 7 ( 1 OT )
2010 Heritage Hills 28 South Spencer 14
2011 South Spencer 14 Heritage Hills 0
2012 Heritage Hills 45 South Spencer 8
2013 South Spencer 17 Heritage Hills 14
2014 Heritage Hills 19 South Spencer 10
2015 Heritage Hills 41 South Spencer 13
2016 Heritage Hills 28 South Spencer 7
2017 Heritage Hills 52 South Spencer 21
2018 Heritage Hills 76 South Spencer 0
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18 minutes ago, HHPatriots said:
Jay Cutler--it was always obvious that kid was special.
Funny thing I knew Jay Cutler was really good when he took over as starter late in the Southridge game his Sophomore season but until he made that pass across the field his Senior season I still thought Pat Crews was our best all-time QB.
Pat quit the team midway through either his Sophomore or Junior season but when he returned still impressed enough to get offers from the University of Michigan. He had a lot of similarities to Jay, Rocket arm and great runner but Pat was faster if I remember correctly he was state finalists in the 100 yard dash.
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According to Digital Scout Forest Park kicker Abby Eckert is 15 out of 16 on extra points and 4 out of 6 on Field Goals.
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Not sure what game was shortest for Heritage Hills we have had running clocks in 6 of 7 games the Jasper game being the only one without a running clock.
We had 2 games where the running clock started at halftime Mount Vernon and Pike Central, 2 started in middle of 3rd quarter Tell City and North Posey and 2 started late 4th quarter Gibson Southern and Southridge.
My guess would be Mount Vernon because neither team scored or used a timeout in the 2nd half.
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Final game of the series at least for the near future. Whenever this game approaches I remember 2 things the double overtime loss in 2013 and the game that Braunacker jumped over our line .
Heritage Hills 7-0 at Forest Park 4-3
This is the 12th meeting between Heritage Hills and Forest Park and the Patriots lead the series 10-1. This season the Patriots come in averaging 43.4 ppg and giving up 6.7 ppg while the Rangers are averaging 19.6 ppg and giving up 21.3 ppg. Patriots can clinch a share of the PAC title with a win.
2008 Heritage Hills 45 Forest Park 7
2009 Heritage Hills 21 Forest Park 16
2010 Heritage Hills 27 Forest Park 21
2011 Heritage Hills 38 Forest Park 18
2012 Heritage Hills 28 Forest Park 7
2013 Forest Park 24 Heritage Hills 21 Double overtime
2014 Heritage Hills 42 Forest Park 0
2015 Heritage Hills 42 Forest Park 0
2016 Heritage Hills 56 Forest Park 0
2017 Heritage Hills 44 Forest Park 0
2018 Heritage Hills 46 Forest Parlk 0
Heritage Hills 12-0 at Lawrenceburg 11-1
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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I'm guessing the one you remember is Gavin Yoon, the quarterbacks name is Garrett Yoon and according to MaxPreps he passed for 2138 yards as a freshman and this year as a sophomore has 2017 and that doesn't include the last game.