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For a few years, our PE teacher would have weight lifting as part of PE.  Worked out fine.  The team could still lift after school.  I believe they "contracted" with a fitness gym until a weight room was built at the school.   Also with the way things are these days, you could trade off in advertising for services rendered.   There are many businesses that have commercials during the Linton broadcasts on the radio.  They could just put up a sign on the fence at the football stadium.  No difference really.

Jeez......what a slow week!

15 hours ago, Bobref said:

Uh oh!

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29946238/notre-dame-wake-forest-football-game-postponed-seven-more-positive-tests

Notre Dame-Wake Forest football game postponed after more positive coronavirus tests

The Notre Dame-Wake Forest football game scheduled for Saturday has been postponed after the Irish announced 13 players are in isolation.

In a statement Tuesday, Notre Dame said seven players tested positive for coronavirus out of 94 tests done Monday. Combined with testing results from last week, 13 players are in isolation, with 10 in quarantine. As a result, Notre Dame has paused all football-related activities. The two schools are working on a date to reschedule the game.

"With student-athlete health and safety our primary focus, we will continue to follow our prevention protocols and ongoing testing procedures," Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly said in a statement. "We managed an increase in positivity rates in August, and the players handled it wonderfully.

 

"We knew COVID would present challenges throughout the season, and we'll always put student-athlete health and safety at the forefront of our decision making. We look forward to resuming team activities and getting back on the playing field."

Wake Forest athletic director John Currie said in a statement they are working on rescheduling the game for Oct. 3, an open date the two schools share.

"I know everyone involved is saddened to be unable to play this weekend, but based on the circumstances it is the right decision," Currie said in a statement. "We are already discussing options for rescheduling with the ACC and our future opponents, including the possibility of playing on the October 3rd weekend."

Notre Dame beat South Florida 52-0 at home last Saturday and opened the season with a win over Duke.

This is not the first time this season the Irish have had to pause practices. They also paused for three days last month after five positive results during two rounds of testing.

This is now the fourth ACC game impacted because of coronavirus issues.

13 players???  Yikes!  Looks like there is no "luck of the Irish" as far as the virus is concerned.  Seriously, it's too bad another game is getting cancelled.  

13 minutes ago, Oldschoolfan said:

I will have to check, but I thought the sectional they are in moved to the north? I thought there test would be against Indianapolis Lutheran in the north.  I know nothing about West Washington, but what I’ve seen in the schedule I can’t find a decent win on their schedule either. If that’s a strong team in the south I’m sure a lot of teams are hoping for that match up. 

I already looked.  Some of the teams are from the WRC are in sectional 45.  And speaking of the WRC, I can't recall when this conference has had a more down year than this year.  There are usually 3 or 4 teams fighting for first place.   This year there are only 2 and everyone else is really having it tough.  Fountain Central winless?  Wow.  North Vermillion only one win?  Wow.  I am really shocked.   You are correct in that West Washington doesn't play anyone either.  I brought them up because like PH they are beating up on other teams but NO ONE is talking about them.  No one is calling them a "juggernaut" even though they have put up big numbers.  They went 12 and 2 last year so apparently they have a lot of guys back from that team.  I think they are every bit as strong as PH.  If they happen to meet in the tournament, it might be a VERY fun game and they might burn the lights out of the scoreboard.  LOL

5 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Weight/strength/nutrition coaches, classes, and instructors (and the ability to fill those roles either internally or through a contractor) are also becoming big factors even at the 3A level. If you have an AD who considers such endeavors important, it can improve all sports, but is particularly important in football/track/soccer where you have the largest number of athletes competing together. Wrestling can be thrown in there too.

I would agree that all of that is important, Patriot 04.  I wasn't overlooking those kind of things.  I was looking at it from the initial standpoint.  Those types of things would come later.  Most of the weight stuff is High School due to the younger kids' bodies not being able to handle it especially at the youth level.  I would think it would be like that for ALL classes regardless and not 3A and up.  I think some of the smaller schools may not do those things (or some of them) because of the $$ involved.  They only have so much money for sports and football takes up about 40% of a schools athletic budget from what I have been told.

1 hour ago, Oldschoolfan said:

Hard to really say how good South Put is. The teams they have played have a combined record of 6-18 with 3 of those wins coming by Edgewood. Those were not against impressive teams either. The other 3 wins the teams picked up were against opponents with a records of roughly 1-19 I’m not saying PH schedule has been any tougher but right now looking at some undefeated teams it’s hard to say how good anyone really is. Everyone can be surprised at this point once they get some “competition” 

This week might show a little as South Put has West Vigo and PH has SV. Looks like South Puts only other game that would be interesting would be against
Heritage Christian. Not sure PH will have any other decent games after this week unless they can figure a way to play Seeger. 

According to Sagarin, PH is worse.  Their SOS is 292 and South Put's is 230.  So PH has beaten up on teams and being called a "juggernaut" because playing a weak schedule allows you to do that.  They should finish the season at 9 and 0 and be challenged by no one.  They won't be challenged in the sectional either because it's mostly teams they will have beaten up on during the season.  The team they HAVE to beat is West Washington.  That is in the team in the south that NO ONE is talking about.  They are just as dominate over opponents as PH is.  So I see PH at least getting to the regional with no trouble.  Juggernaut?  Don't think so.  They had a chance to challenge themselves on their schedule and turned it down.  Hmmmmm.

Some good thoughts and observations on this topic of discussion. I'd like to see more topics like this on here.  I would like to add the following:  If a school hires a new coach I would think his first order of business would be to meet with the head coaches of the junior high teams and the youth league(s) to discuss his offensive and defensive philosophies with them.  If a kid has played the same defense and offense through junior high then in high school he'll know it backwards and forwards when he gets to his freshman year.  I realize mostly in the youth leagues they are being taught techniques for blocking, tackling, etc but they do run some offense and defense.  And if a coach is hired by a program that has no youth league, then I would hope his first order of business would be to get one started.  I also realize some of the smaller schools may only have one grade school.  In that case, they could still have a team but play other schools in the area.  Maybe you'll only have a 4 or 5 game season, but at least they would be getting experience and exposure they can use at the junior high level.  That is how I see a program being built and a program being consistently successful.  You wouldn't build a house without a good foundation under it.  So that is what I see:  you MUST have a good foundation to have a successful program.   Hey, just my two cents and maybe not worth that much in some people's eyes, but there it is.

18 hours ago, Gipper said:

Absolutely.  Pioneer and Lafayette Central Catholic have also had legendary teams.  We also have New Palestine.

And so has Sheridan.

10 minutes ago, itiswhatitis said:

That 2001 BD team outscored their 6 tournament opponents by a score of 279 - 83 or approximately a 49 - 13 average.  The scores were sectional games:  Pike 51 - 12, Southport 48 - 0, sectional title was Decatur Central 68 - 14, regional was Warren Central 56 - 21 (the season meeting was 38 - 28), semi state was Evansville Reitz 61 - 20, and the state final was 35 - 16 over Valpo.  Not so sure you could just use these scores to  justify making them the greatest of all time, but it was pretty much 6 blowout games during the tournament.  

Actually BD averaged 46 points per game.  My bad.   Here's the thing:  In 2016 Linton won the 1A title and they outscored their 6 opponents 293 - 77 or an average of 48 to 12.   Does that say that Linton should be considered one of the greatest of all time?  Of course not.  My point is you can't just say someone breezed through a tournament year to call them the greatest of all time.

13 hours ago, HoosierFB_JG said:

I still believe 2001 Ben Davis is the best this state has ever seen.  They completely dismantled everyone in the tournament.

That 2001 BD team outscored their 6 tournament opponents by a score of 279 - 83 or approximately a 49 - 13 average.  The scores were sectional games:  Pike 51 - 12, Southport 48 - 0, sectional title was Decatur Central 68 - 14, regional was Warren Central 56 - 21 (the season meeting was 38 - 28), semi state was Evansville Reitz 61 - 20, and the state final was 35 - 16 over Valpo.  Not so sure you could just use these scores to  justify making them the greatest of all time, but it was pretty much 6 blowout games during the tournament.  

We are heading down the homestretch now.   Week 6 finds the Miners at the undefeated Cougars.   While the Cougars have yet to be defeated, their opponents combined record is 4 - 13.  Last week saw the Miners lose to 4A Boonville in OT while the Cougars beat 1A Rock Creek Academy, 40 - 7.  Harrell is predicting a 35 - 24 Miner win.  I'm expecting it to be more than 11 points as the Miners are going to be fired up after losing last week's game.  Good health to the players and safe travels for everyone.

9 hours ago, hick said:

I read your post.  Now go back and read mine.  Nothing I said was negative about your post, nor sagarin.  In fact I didn't even mention your post. I also didn't say their current SOS was wrong. Honestly, I have no clue wtf you're so butt hurt about...you're a little sensitive for me hoss. 

I've read yours and why I was replying to it.  I don't see why you are so upset (In your opinion) over Andrean's SOS being wrong.  Like I said, take it up with Sagarin if you think it's wrong.  I only used Sagarin's numbers.   Not "butt hurt" or "sensitive" al all here.  Don't try to make something out of nothing.  Moving on.

1 hour ago, hick said:

Andrean is #171. They've played 2 6A's (including sagarin #8 Merrillville) and 3 4A's so far.  In the final 4 weeks they have three more 4A schools (Sagarin #21, 63, 71) and 5A school. They easily have a top 5, if not higher, 2A schedule.

6A (2) 5A (1) 4A (5)

Go back and look at my original post.  I did say I used this week's ratings and the ratings will change from week to week depending on the opponent.   No need to argue that a team SHOULD BE higher.  If you think it's wrong, take up the argument with Sagarin.  It's his numbers that I used.  Andrean at 171 didn't make the list this time.  They probably will in the future.  Linton sits at #130 this week but have all lower ranked teams left on their schedule.  They will more than likely drop off this list after another game or two.  Like I said, it changes weekly.  And I DID say, "I was bored".

One last comment and an FYI:  Today, Navy was a touchdown underdog to Tulane.  The score at halftime was 24 - 0 Tulane.  Final score was 27 - 24, Navy!  The rushing game finally got going in the second half and they also had a good passing game which was a surprise.   Navy hit a field goal to win it as time was running out.  Great comeback win for the Blue and Gold!  Again, can't wait to watch Mockobee when he puts on the pads at the academy!!!  

33 minutes ago, irishuncle411 said:

5 of the top 15 are in the ICC

Yeah, the ICC is a really good conference.  A few state chamions come from that conference in recent years not to mention a few blue rings also.

Okay so I was bored.  Over the years there have been a lot of arguments (some of them heated) over who plays no one and who plays a meat grinder for a schedule.  I thought I'd check to see who played the toughest schedules in 2A.  I used the Sagarin ratings for this list.  I have the school and their state rank for their schedule.  I only used the top 15 since most years that is where the eventual champion comes from.   Here ya go:

1)   Ft. Wayne Luers  23

2)  Evansville Mater Dei  61

3)  Speedway  89

4)  Cascade  98

5)  Monrovia  101

6)  Rensselaer Central  106

7)  Shennandoah  109

8    Woodlan  114

9)  Providance  115

10)  Eastern Pekin  118

11)  WInchester  119

12)  Lewis Cass  124

13)  Linton Stockton  130

14)  Scecina  144

15)  Triton Central  146

Keep in mind these are the ratings for this week.  They will change from week to week depending on the opponent.  Again, I was bored.  And I apologize if I left someone out.

Good win for Cathedral and a win for Indiana (first Brownsburg, now Cathedral).  To me, it didn't matter much what the final score was.  A win is a win.  Week 9 is going to be the game of the year.  How appropriate it is the last week of the regular season.  I still say it should be on ESPN.  That would be like icing on the cake as the saying goes.

This was one of those games, it is a shame someone had to lose.  Both teams played hard and seemed to leave it all on the field.  Mockobee is as advertised and Navy is getting a good one.  Best of luck to him in his future and I am looking forward to watching him on television on Saturday's.  And good luck to the Pioneers in the 4A tournament in a few weeks.

This was a very entertaining ball game.  Of course I'm sorry the Miners lost.  They had a couple of chances in regulation to win it, but that's football.   Mockobee had 38 carries for 209 yards.  At least that is what the announcers said.  He was averaging 252 yards per game but on a LOT less carries.  The play of the game was what looked like a Linton int but went through the defenders hands and was caught for a HUGE gain with the clock winding down in regulation.  Boonville would score, get the 2 and send it to overtime.   

Overtime

Linton 36

Boonville 36

this has been one heck of a ball game

HALFTIME

Linton 14

Boonville 14

The Miner defense has played pretty well.  Mockobee has 16 carries for 78 yards at halftime.  The Miner offense has given up a couple of fumbles and given Boonville short fields.  The defense has bailed them out.  The second Boonville TD was a fumble return for 6.

12 hours ago, Mockstangboyz said:

He only had 4 D1 offers before committing to Navy before the season. It's been a crazy recruiting trip for him. He was set to get out to camps this past spring/summer to show case the work he put in during the off-season. Unfortunately Covid19 put a stop to that.  Hes 6'0 weighing a true 195LB his legs are powerful, when his upper body catches up to his lower hes a P5 program back Navy got a steal with this kid.

Thanks for the info.  He sounds like quite a specimen.  Can hardly wait to see him play for the Midshipmen.  Every so often Navy picks up a stud RB.  The last few years it was the QB.  Hope that Mockobee is the next great RB at Navy.  And I'm glad he chose Navy and Navy accepted him.  You don't get accepted there just from having perfect attendance in high school.  And you have to have a letter of recommendation from either a congressman or a senator.  I can't remember which.  Linton is no stranger to defending good RB's.   They have played against several over the years.  Of course most of them weren't D-1 recruits, but several were still good quality backs.  Speed and power is a deadly combo in a high school running back.  I hope that Eslinger is at full strength for the Miners in this game.  IMO, he's the best LB on the team and is always around the ball.   He has a motor that just doesn't stop.  Good health to both teams.

9 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Though the brand of ND is ELITE for college football and its vast alumi base, I just cannot see how it out kicks an NFL original team such as CHICAGO BEARS.     

Sub out Bears with say Carolina Panthers, then ok, ND gets the nod.

Now, onto coaching, the pinnacle of a coach is NFL head coach.  Does not matter the franchise, the answer should always be NFL over College when it comes to value of coaching jobs.   

Nice topic to discuss

I would agree Coach but with one change.  I don't see how the ND head coaching job could outweigh ANY NFL head coaching job let alone just Da Bears.  The opportunity to win  a Super Bowl is a bit more prestigious than a college football championship.  Besides, ND is stuck in the past and lives off of it's reputation and former glory.  These days they are a shell of their former football selves.  They choose to remain independent and all in the name of their "integrity" or whatever.  I'm thinking they should just drop football altogether since they are no longer relevant.  Some of the teams on their schedule need to be replaced with better competition.  I get that they still play Navy because of how Navy bailed them out of closure during WWII but it's time to say your thank you and move on.  I am expecting a hell and brimstone sermon now from Bobref.

I'm sitting here wondering:  who would win between Brownsburg and Cathedral?  The reason I ask is Brownsburg has already beaten St X (in OT).  Brownsburg is #2 in the 6A poll and #5 in the Sagarin ratings.  Cathedral is #1 in the 5A poll BUT #2 in the Sagarin Ratings.  So could Cathedral beat the team that beat St. X?  I would think that Cathedral will be favored in this game with St. X.  Then I look and see that week 9 is going to be the battle of the season as Cathedral will be at #1 and nationally ranked Center Grove.  Wow, just wow!  Hope that someone gets in touch with ESPN and has them broadcast the game.  Not a fan of either team.  Just a fan of high school football.  And I believe Cathedral/Center Grove would be a great promotional game for the state of Indiana.

53 minutes ago, WWFan said:

Hes committed to Navy. According to 24/7 only other offers were Valpo and Hanover

That is freakin' awesome!  Being a retired Navy man myself, how can I not like this kid?  LOL  I still hope the Miners win, though.