CaptainHook

They do!

Michigan City lost a lot, I think. Valpo will be tough, I hear.

there were four 5-team sectionals in 5A in the previous cycle

I thought the same. Looks like they just slotted Cathedral in with their old sectional opponents Decatur Central and Plainfield.

I forgot to account for 5A not being capped at 32 teams. I thought BNL would head to 4A with Cathedral moving up. Not bumping them down created the least amount of change possible to 5A sectionals.

Didn’t we cover this? As I’ve already noted, they can’t change their conference. It is a great fit for every other sport. So they’ve beefed up their non-conference. As I’ve already said, Cathedral plays a fantastic schedule. Probably just as tough as a 6A MIC schedule. Surely you understand that is easier to do as an independent??

I love that your argument has fallen apart so badly you are only left with semantics and my choice of dictionary.

A parochial school is a private primary or secondary school affiliated with a religious organization, and whose curriculum includes general religious education in addition to secular subjects, such as science, mathematics and language arts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parochial_school Got one, thanks!

I am. Cathedral and New Palestine are both 4A by enrollment. If New Palestine had scored two points in the last cycle, I would also feel like they should remain in 5A. They've shown they can compete there. So has Cathedral. As for telling me that I should feel the same way the IHSAA does, that's laughable. I disagree much about how the IHSAA handles itself, including this disaster of enforcing a rule change at the end of the cycle to some sports and not others. Ridiculous. You also need to look up the definition of parochial.

Mishawaka was in 5A and elected to stay, when they could have dropped to 4A. And you are missing the difference between a parochial school vs a public school that operate under totally different circumstance. And how is 5A not competive for them? They failed to win a sectional half the time they have been in 5A?

Wrong. Again, I clarified that I was referring to the Tournament Success Factor Era. Only one school has elected to not move down when they had the chance. No one has elected to play up. New Palestine has played in 5A for four years (not six) due to TSF, and will for at least two more. In their four years in 5A, they have lost a state championship, won a state championship, and lost in their sectional twice. As a public school with a enrollment less than 1200, that puts them in the middle third of 4A football. If they were eligible to move down, I would advocate that they stay up, if they've been competitive in that arena. But tournament success factor takes care of that. Cathedral operates under a different set of rules than a public school. New Palestines roster in 2019 had 53 kids. Cathedral had over 90. Their schedule suggests they belong in a higher class. If you can't see that, not sure that I can help you or your sauce. I'm glad to see Cathedral stay in 5A for this cycle. It's the minimum for where they belong in the tournament.

Correct. And I get it. It's just interesting that Valpo actually has same number of TSF points as FWS. But they will be the one moving down.

that would be fun! who know what will happen with IHSAA...

Because Snider doesn't have a choice, as they were bumped up and forced to remain due to TSF. Again, I don't think that applies to teams already in 6A due to enrollment numbers.

But I think you have it right. Valpo will move to 5A in 2019 (although they also have enough TSF points to remain in 6A, which is interesting). Consolidated Elkhart will move to 6A in 2020. Which will kick Zionsville to 5A in 2020.

Bedford North Lawrence will drop to 4A and Cathedral will move to 5A.

As far as I know, Tournament Success Factor points have no bearing in the top class. They will move down strictly on enrollment numbers. They would be the smallest non-TSF in 6A. If FW Snider stays in 6A, that bumps Valpo down. 6A is capped at 32 teams. Although your point is valid....

and the consolidated Elkhart school moves up in a year? and Zionsville moves down?

To me, you apply the new rule going forward, after this two year cycle concluded. Or you apply it to all teams as this cycle concludes (which doesn't make much sense to me). What you can't do, is what they did, and apply it to some and not others.

Sorry, I was talking about in the Tournament Success Factor Era.

Based on what I saw today at 7v7 at Colts Complex, Brownsburg has a new WR from Columbus North.

wow!

It was Mishawaka in 2015. When Columbus East and New Palestine bumped up to 5A, Mishawaka could have gone down to 4A. They chose to stay in 5A. To my knowledge, that is the only football team that has stayed in a higher class when they cold have dropped to a lower class.

They elected to stay in a class when they could have moved down. As far as I know, it’s only happened once in football. Merillville? I think?

Not sure you can do that. You can elect to stay in a class, but not elect to play up. Maybe you can, but nobody has ever done it. Electing to play up a class won't change their conference, which fits every other sport nicely. They are already playing up a class, as they should be in 4A by enrollment. 5A has been very competitive for them. And they are a public school. My point is this, Cathedral views themselves (as they should) as an elite football program. I've just never understood the mentality to then "play down" when given the chance.