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1 hour ago, MICFan34 said:
Center Grove @ Warren Central
Ben Davis vs Brownsburg (@ Lucas Oil Stadium)
Carmel @ Louisville Trinity
Lawrence Central @ HSE
LN @ Avon
North Central @ Fishers
Pike @ Zionsville
Let's hear some thoughts about the unofficial HCC MIC Challenge in Week 1!
I’m taking CG / BD / Trinity / HSE / LN / Fishers / Zionsville
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3 hours ago, southend said:
Well, I guess the jury will be out until November, for this team. Hope they snap back into contention.
Two years ago they were in the Semi-State and lost by 1 TD. Last year they were in the Semi-State, beating Carmel in the regional. I’d say that’s “in contention.”
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On 8/3/2021 at 8:09 PM, DT said:
Of course Im affiliated with this website. Im a member just like you. Nothing more, nothing less. Thats how The GID views us.
So because I pay for a subscription to the Indy Star I should post interviews, editorials etc. as if I work for them? Got it.
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3 hours ago, DT said:
Not at all. I got more page views on the Justin Pelley interview at HHF than all the combined interviews here on The GID. GID admin wants something for nothing. So I do it here as an accomodation.
I do have to ask why you continually post the GID’s name to all of your interviews when you aren’t affiliated with this website?
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10 minutes ago, DT said:
I just saw this and am sorry for not responding. You deserve a response as i understand you feel passionately about your school.
First off, I have no bias against LC. In fact, one of the greatest high school games Ive seen was at LC when the Bears pulled off the huge 35-14 upset over Warren central and went on to win the state title.
Ive seen several disturbing trends at LC which lead me to believe the program is in trouble :
1. Coaching turnover. This should not happen at a MIC school. These are the most desirable football jobs in the state, and maybe the midwest.
2. Declining enrollment. LC is already the smallest school in the conference, and eclining enrollment just makes things more difficult.
3. Open enrollment - the best players in the township tend to navigate to the better program. LC was the program of choice 10 years ago. Today it is LN.
4. On field performance. Last year was a disaster.
Due to the size discrepency, I believe LCs long term future is to be a bottom feeder in The MIC. Is that what the school wants for its student athletes? How often does a Tre Roberson type talent come along?
Id like to see the program have some success. I think it needs a new home in a conference with similar sized schools. I dont think that makes me anti LC.
Just to understand, you believe Carmel and Center Grove should bolt for the HCC, and Lawrence Central should bolt for another conference. You’ve also stated on here that Lawrence North should bolt for the HCC. If this were to happen, the MIC, currently the best conference in Indiana, would essentially become nonexistent. I believe the Athletic Directors who work tirelessly to give their students the best experiences possible deserve much more from us rather than actively campaigning to disband their conference.
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8 hours ago, BTF said:
Either I didn't catch that, or I forgot.
Unless you were on the IN HS FB Facebook page, you probably missed the constant reminder of the "17 D1" athletes on Merrillville's team, or how they were best in state. The real maturity came out when they were embarrassed by Westfield. I've never in my years seen a more classless fan base or a fan base that is as delusional as Merrillville's. You'd have thought they were the 10-time defending champs with the way they talked.
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10 hours ago, Footballking16 said:
-I believe Center Grove and Cathedral are hands down the two best teams with a considerable gap between the rest.
-Ben Davis is too low. Extremely young team last year and got off to a tough start with a bunch of COVID issues. Think they are biggest threat to Center Grove.
-Chatard loses a ton but that has never stopped them before. Would not be shocked to see them beat Roncalli.
-Bullish on Roncalli but Rodenberg has done a great job rebuilding that team and they will have a very good offensive line. Amazing that it takes an influx in talent down on the southside to get Cathedral back on the schedule. 2023 can't come soon enough, they are due for a whoopin.
I think you could be right on the Giants.
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6 hours ago, temptation said:
One of my favorite childhood pastimes in the summer as I geared up for college football was purchasing every preview magazine known to man and reading them cover to cover as the season approached.
With the expansion of the transfer portal making preseason projections difficult and as an adult, I don’t have as much time on my hands as I used to, lol.
That being said, one of my new favorite ways to fill that void is to look at futures bets that are revealed in Vegas every June.
To pass time and the remaining summer months, I figured I would do something similar on here and get others’ take.
I don’t have a favorite school so I’ll just post some central Indiana ones as I look through schedules. Feel free to comment with your projections or post your areas schools for others to comment upon.Also feel free your favorite school and give an honest over under number in terms of wins (regular season and postseason combined).
The MIC:
Ben Davis: O/U 6.5
Carmel: O/U 10.5
Center Grove: O/U 12.5
Lawrence Central: O/U 3.5
Lawrence North: O/U 4.5
North Central: O/U 4.5
Pike: O/U 2.5
Warren Central: O/U 9.5
Based on what is coming back and if all stay healthy, I believe:
- Ben Davis goes 6-3 or 7-2 in the regular season and wins their Sectional, possibly the Regional. Semi-State is the ceiling as CG has one more loaded team to walk the halls in Greenwood. I like them at 8-4.
- Carmel I believe finishes 7-2 and wins their Sectional and Regional before bowing out to CG in the Semi-State. I believe they'll finish 10-3.
- Center Grove I believe runs the table and finishes 14-0 as repeat 6A Champions.
- Lawrence Central finishes at 1-9.
- Lawrence North finishes at 3-6 in the regular season.
- North Central finishes at 5-4 in the regular season and is a legit threat to win their Sectional.
- Pike finishes 3-6 in the regular season.
- Warren Central finishes 6-3 or 5-4 in the regular season. I think they get the win against BD (barely) to put them at 6-3 and I see them winning their Sectional, though NC will be a serious challenger. WC bows out in the Regional.
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Interesting to look at this list...
Ben Davis, Carmel, Center Grove I believe are the 3 schools to win a sectional in both basketball and football this school year.
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22 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:
It's really no different than probably what brought Stan Benge back to Ben Davis in girls basketball. Stan not only won championships here, but he's a Ben Davis Alumnus. BD is home. Warren is home for Mike.
I didn’t realize Stan was back at Ben Davis. I’m sure that ferocious defense he brings will be rolling soon.
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11 minutes ago, temptation said:
LOL
If you’re laughing at the fact that DT thinks WC’s best days are behind them and Kirschner will guide them to a championship, then I’m laughing with you.
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Congratulations to Mike Kirschner as he will now coach his alma mater
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Just now, Staxawax said:
Sounds more like you wanted to show off your band nerd expertise!
All schools, regardless of size, march in the same competition at BOA. For Grand Nationals 3 champions are crowned based on semi-final scores. The top 12, regardless of size, march again in prime time for overall grand champion.
No need explaining it to me, the guy who is the Visual Head at CHS has a classroom across the hall from me. I’ve been supporting him as he has me since the 90’s. Yes, I’m an old folk.
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34 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:
Of all the ridiculous hot takes that have been spewed on this forum (and has, honestly, driven more people away than he has drawn in with his "content generation"), the contraction one is by far the dumbest. Most teams aren't going to win state championships, but they do give kids opportunities. And one of the great things about football is there's a spot for virtually everyone and it brings together people from many different backgrounds in pursuit of one common purpose.
Thank you! It seems there are two people on this board who have no interest in anything but their own agendas.
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1 hour ago, temptation said:
You have anger problems. Never knew marching band was your hot button issue.
No, I have issues with people that think they’re better than others and act as if others are beneath them which you do. I’ve never even met you, yet I know you’re the biggest jerk I’ve ever known. I personally don’t care what you think of me, but at least I know my character is good and that I’m involved in all of this for the good of the kids. You and DT are only concerned with your own egos and are the reasons kids have self esteem issues and don’t try. It’s because of people such as yourselves that we, as educators, have to constantly focus on other things besides education.
It’s no secret, I don’t like you or DT. You have the same reputation on the Harrell page too though, and most of the people I have private conversations with on that message board just wish you’d go away, but since you won’t, I’ll tolerate your childish jabs and the fact that the highlight of your day is spending time on a high school football message board attacking others for their comments whenever you disagree with them. It’s pathetic, but I’ll tolerate the nonsense.
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9 minutes ago, Staxawax said:
They don’t “merge them down”. They still award a grand national champion in all 3 classes.
They do merge them down in the finals.
The point is, there are still far fewer classes than high school football and the comment was uneducated.
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19 hours ago, JQWL said:
2 out of 24 teams making the state finals. 8.3% of the teams in the class will be in the state finals. Inching too close to marching band if you ask me.
That’s as ignorant of a comment as I’ve ever read. Marching band has only 4 classes in Indiana. That’s it. The national circuit has only 3 classes, then in the finals they merge down to 1 class. That’s it.
Know the facts before you blurt out some ignorant information such as that.
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22 hours ago, temptation said:
Numbers don't lie. BD and WC were not competitive (save for 1 half of football) with CG in 2020. CG will suffer some graduation losses which will certainly have an impact but to pretend that CG does not have "incredibly talented underclassmen" ready to step in is a bit short sighted.
Upon further research, Center Grove's JV defeated BD 34-8 and WC 35-15.
According to MaxPreps, BD returns its starting QB, but loses its leading rusher, only returns 2 of its top 5 WR and only returns 2 of its top 5 tacklers.
MaxPreps shows that WC does return its starting QB/RB but loses its top WR and only returns 2 of its top 5 tacklers.
Taking it a step further, CG's freshmen beat BD 29-0 and WC 38-22.
These "incredibly talented underclassmen" will get another year to grow so we will see but the results on the field (at all three levels) shows that CG also has some INCREDIBLY TALENTED UNDERCLASSMEN.
Its absolutely UNREAL that folks are so quick to dismiss and downplay a program that just ran roughshod through the entire state and established itself as a NATIONAL power.
Did you see me mention the name Center Grove ANYWHERE in my post? I said what I said. BD and WC return talent. They’ll be in the top of the MIC. I don’t care about what CG is doing in this post. I KNOW they have another year of dominance remaining.
It’s so cute how you have become a CG fanboy that you mention them even when they aren’t being discussed.
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16 minutes ago, PhilLee said:
Warren Central's sophomore class is incredibly talented. Anyone who thinks they aren't going to be back in the mix next year, is sadly mistaken.
Both BD and WC both have incredibly talented underclassmen. They’ll both be very good next year.
DT knows very little about X’s and O’s and uses these hot takes to keep himself relevant.
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4 hours ago, Indiana Fan said:
I know it is early...WAY early. BUT, we all need something to start talking and thinking about. I am not sure about all the teams who has what for next year, but some we should have a solid idea. I want to see everyone predictions and thoughts about each team for next season. All info and thoughts are welcomed. Hopefully the programs will get a full offseason to work with players and be ready to go come end of summer.
Here are my way too early projections:
1. Center Grove. They graduate a lot, but still have a phenomenal junior class. They win the MIC, but do not go undefeated this time.
2. Ben Davis. I look for the Giants to be explosive on offense and scare lots of teams. Not sure what the D looks like.
T3. Carmel/Warren. Both of these teams will have solid years. They will be equal. and as a matter a fact I think the top 4 will be super competitive and will be able to throw a blanket over them.
5. North Central. Panthers have a decent year, but nothing special.
6. Pike. Lots of question marks as the Red Devils always confuse me. They are a mystery every year.
7. LN. They lose lots. Cooper will help them as he will be returning.
8. LC. The bears will continue to implode. I am expecting a 1 win or 0 win season again.
I would agree. I’d give more but I’m currently Covid positive and there’s not much more energy. I’ll be back.
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This is just another DT hot take to try to ruffle some feathers.
You could make the argument, and actually I will, make the argument, at seasons end Ben Davis was 2nd best in the MIC. 4 Semi-State appearances in 5 years. They’re fine. BD started slow due to covid, having less practice time than their opponents as they faced schools in Hendricks County. By seasons end, they were better than both teams. Then, I’m the regional they beat Carmel. Who was better in the MIC besides CG at seasons end?
WC had a down year but I don’t believe they’re worse off as a program. 2 years removed from a historically great program. Won a sectional this year. This is another program that will be fine based on returning talent next year. Did you know that WC went 5-6 in 2012? Many would say the talent was dry that year as well, but they’ve responded with 7 sectional titles and 2 state titles since that year.
Both BD and WC will soon reign again in 6A and you’ll be tucking your tail between your legs as you do with most of your hot take posts.
Why the need to have such expectations on teenage kids? The urban school kids continue to amaze me while people such as DT only judge based off of records and championships.
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22 hours ago, temptation said:
THANK YOU. I guess that BD also forced the CG fumble at the mesh point on their second drive...
I will never accept lazy, one sided analysis, so no...we cannot have interesting discussion.
Fundamentally sound teams like CG who are not flashy get no love from some folks on here. Hence, the reason some folks thought this game was going to be close. CG may not be explosive compared to other teams but they impose their will and force you into submission.
BD became more and more deflated in their body language with each second half snap last night. It was a downward spiral they could not stop.
How about we CREDIT CG for BD’s “bad quarter” next time?
I wasn’t analyzing squat, I just said BD had a bad 3Q, which they DID. Goodness gracious, some of us don’t spend all day on their keyboard at this website because they have nothing else to do with their lives. Some of us actually have families, practices, schedules to keep.
I’m not a reporter or play by play or hot take guy, so I don’t have to do anything to satisfy any of you that think I should. I simply said BD had a bad 3Q, as they did. It’s too bad is all.
You’re pathetic temptation. You’re truly pathetic and you could never say anything you have to say to my face.
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3 hours ago, temptation said:
Did BD’s “bad quarter” have anything to do with adjustments their opponent made or are we ignoring that fact?
CG swarmed to the ball and those quick/tunnel screen passes (BD’s bread and butter all night) had no shot in the second half...yet they had no other “go to” calls.
Some people are so quick to discredit the winning team...
I’m not discrediting anything so you should watch your tone. You can’t deny that BD gave CG excellent field position 4 times in the 3rd. Goodness, one comment and the free reduced lunch fanboy freaks out.
Good gravy, we can’t just have good, interesting discussion on here for anything
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1 hour ago, BDGiant93 said:
Center Grove is the class of the field, and that doesn't surprise anyone. BD played as hard as they could in the 1st half. They couldn't get started in the third...gave up the football...and the Trojans just ran it right down the Giants throats. Impressive 2nd half. Disappointing loss for Ben Davis, but that's happened to a lot of people this year. Back to the drawing board.
Congratulations to Coach Moore and the Trojans. They'll win it all next week if they stay healthy.
To Coach Simmons and the Giants, thanks for another exciting turnaround. I'm already looking forward to August!
I attended this game tonight as I was fortunate to get a ticket through the online portal. Sat on the CG side. Really enjoyed tonight's atmosphere despite the smaller crowd. BD and CG both brought the energy.
Sad that BD had a bad 3rd quarter because for 24 minutes they did everything necessary to be in position to win.
Cute Bit Again HCC...Can you do it when it counts?
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I would disagree that these schools are behind. Kevin Vanderbush at Ben Davis has seen his program modeled throughout indiana and the country.
In your interview with Jason Simmons you essentially seemed to not know who this man was and I personally would suggest you get to know this man as he is still considered by many to be the best S&C coach in Indiana.