Lafayette Jeff and LCC "OH MY"

[Tippy]

Wow! LCC was down 21-0 and came back to win 22-21.  I never thought they would beat Guerin.  This is the first time in history that Lafayette Jeff and LCC have finished the regular season unbeaten in the same year.  This is the 10th time that LCC has finished the regular season unbeaten.

1969...10-0 (No playoffs until 1973

1999... 9-0 (won state)

2006...9-0 (lost in the 2nd round of sectionals to Seeger 30-22)

2007...9-0 (lost to Clinton Central 28-27 in 1st round of sectionals)

2009...9-0 (won State)

2010...9-0 (won State)

2011...9-0 (won State)

2015...9-0 (won State)

2016...9-0 (lost to Pioneer 28-27 in Regional)

2024...9-0 (I don't know if they will win state)

I don't think anybody thought LCC would finish 9-0 this year.  This is the biggest surprise since LCC beat Sheridan in 1989.

 

Lafayette Jeff is also 9-0 and could win state this year.  They can play with anybody in 5A.  Many think Merrillville or Plainfield will win state.  I don't know what this means, but here are some games that might be of interest.  

Merrillville 14 Michigan City 12

Lafayette Jeff 17 Michigan City 13

Plainfield 24 Harrison 9

Lafayette Jeff 45 Harrison 21.

Lafayette should enjoy this because Jeff and LCC might not finish the regular season unbeaten in the same year ever again.

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Lcc's draw couldnt hav been been any better thru Semi...How was Jeffs draw?

[foxbat]

33 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

Lcc's draw couldnt hav been been any better thru Semi...How was Jeffs draw?

See below.  Pretty much should be mainly tune-up through sectionals.  Ended up with the easiest draw of the four teams in their sectional and Kokomo and McCutcheon, both beaten already by Jeff this season, will end up meeting each other in first round.  McCutcheon lost to Kokomo earlier this season, in a road game, 28-20, so that should be a tough game for both teams while Jeff will be playing the 2-7 South Bend Eagles.  McCutcheon played Jeff close this last weekend, losing 21-14 at home.  Figure Jeff will likely face #1 5A Concord in regional ... will likely be like playing a state championship early in the season ... kind of like when #1 and #2 LCC and Pioneer would square off in sectionals or regionals.  If they get past Concord, probably looking at facing Merrilville unless Michigan City, and maybe Valpo, get it together, by that point of the season.

 

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24 minutes ago, foxbat said:

See below.  Pretty much should be mainly tune-up through sectionals.  Ended up with the easiest draw of the four teams in their sectional and Kokomo and McCutcheon, both beaten already by Jeff this season, will end up meeting each other in first round.  McCutcheon lost to Kokomo earlier this season, in a road game, 28-20, so that should be a tough game for both teams while Jeff will be playing the 2-7 South Bend Eagles.  McCutcheon played Jeff close this last weekend, losing 21-14 at home.  Figure Jeff will likely face #1 5A Concord in regional ... will likely be like playing a state championship early in the season ... kind of like when #1 and #2 LCC and Pioneer would square off in sectionals or regionals.  If they get past Concord, probably looking at facing Merrilville unless Michigan City, and maybe Valpo, get it together, by that point of the season.

 

Sooo Jeff has a lil easier Sec than Lcc likly facing Webo at Home in round 2... That should b a good game. What do u think Jeffs chances are of getting Concord and or possiblly Merrilville at Home if it comes to that?

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5 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

Sooo Jeff has a lil easier Sec than Lcc likly facing Webo at Home in round 2... That should b a good game. What do u think Jeffs chances are of getting Concord and or possiblly Merrilville at Home if it comes to that?

According to the IHSAA rules, it looks like Jeff, being in a four-team section, will play both of its games on the road.  It looks like Concord would play its sectional championship at home.  Jeff, being non-host in the sectional championship and in an even-numbered sectional should get home field if they end up facing Concord.  Of course, that depends on whether or not there's a white buffalo born between now and Halloween and, the more important sign from the gods, Purdue is able to score a TD in the first half of its game with Northwestern. 

[Tippy]

It looks like LCC has 5 teams to worry about.  The first is Western Boone.  WB has lost their last two games.  Lebanon took out WB and Guerin beat Lebanon.  I think LCC beats them by 12 points.  The next team is Andrean.  I don't think Andrean is any better than West Lafayette.  I think LCC beats Andrean by 6 points.  Adams Central would be up next.  AC is a really good team, they beat Heritage 33-14.  I think AC could beat LCC.  If LCC beats AC then they would probably play Brownstown Central or Lutheran.  BC had a big win over 5A Seymour 27-0.  Lutheran has been blowing everyone out since they lost to Triton Central.  Lutheran beat Monrovia 49-14.  So, it looks like there are 3 teams that can beat LCC.  Adams Central, Brownstown Central and Lutheran.

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3 hours ago, Tippy said:

It looks like LCC has 5 teams to worry about.  The first is Western Boone.  WB has lost their last two games.  Lebanon took out WB and Guerin beat Lebanon.  I think LCC beats them by 12 points.  The next team is Andrean.  I don't think Andrean is any better than West Lafayette.  I think LCC beats Andrean by 6 points.  Adams Central would be up next.  AC is a really good team, they beat Heritage 33-14.  I think AC could beat LCC.  If LCC beats AC then they would probably play Brownstown Central or Lutheran.  BC had a big win over 5A Seymour 27-0.  Lutheran has been blowing everyone out since they lost to Triton Central.  Lutheran beat Monrovia 49-14.  So, it looks like there are 3 teams that can beat LCC.  Adams Central, Brownstown Central and Lutheran.

3 teams in the North alone can beat Lcc...  Webo just barely back in 2A...and like Luers last year, i dont recall Lcc ever playing Andrean..(is that right?) who is battle tested... (sched matters)  i think Lcc can play with em but a win is Far from likly.  Jmho... but who knows... those are 2 formidable 2A programs...then, as u say, AC seems likly if they survive... Luthren is on a roll and looks unstoppable in the South... interesting that.. is it 3? 1A enrollment teams are competeing at a high level in 2A?  

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Btw Tippy... agree.. Jeff may suprise some folks... they r flying under the radar...

[Jbk2]

19 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

3 teams in the North alone can beat Lcc...  Webo just barely back in 2A...and like Luers last year, i dont recall Lcc ever playing Andrean..(is that right?) who is battle tested... (sched matters)  i think Lcc can play with em but a win is Far from likly.  Jmho... but who knows... those are 2 formidable 2A programs...then, as u say, AC seems likly if they survive... Luthren is on a roll and looks unstoppable in the South... interesting that.. is it 3? 1A enrollment teams are competeing at a high level in 2A?  

Webo's 2 losses are to good 4a teams one of them ranked 

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Just now, Jbk2 said:

Webo's 2 losses are to good 4a teams one of them ranked 

Exactly... Webo vrs Lcc is a coinbflip ... jmho

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15 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

3 teams in the North alone can beat Lcc...  Webo just barely back in 2A...and like Luers last year, i dont recall Lcc ever playing Andrean..(is that right?) who is battle tested... (sched matters)  i think Lcc can play with em but a win is Far from likly.  Jmho... but who knows... those are 2 formidable 2A programs...then, as u say, AC seems likly if they survive... Luthren is on a roll and looks unstoppable in the South... interesting that.. is it 3? 1A enrollment teams are competeing at a high level in 2A?  

Oh MY!  Webo just barely back in 2A, so what?  Guerin is in 3A.  Schedule doesn't always matter.  Guerin plays a much tougher schedule than LCC and LCC beat them. LCC played Andrean in 2022 and lost 30-12.  They played at Andrean in the cold and Andrean pulled away in the 2nd half.  I think that team was better than this years Andrean team.  Things could go wrong in the game and WB could win.  Webo has played 2 good teams and lost to both of them.  I know you don't know who is going to win, but if you had to pick one team to win, who would it be, LCC or Western Boone?  Three 1A enrollment teams are doing very well in 2A.  LCC, Lutheran and AC.  I think they are all still 1A enrollment. 

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42 minutes ago, Tippy said:

Oh MY!  Webo just barely back in 2A, so what?  Guerin is in 3A.  Schedule doesn't always matter.  Guerin plays a much tougher schedule than LCC and LCC beat them. LCC played Andrean in 2022 and lost 30-12.  They played at Andrean in the cold and Andrean pulled away in the 2nd half.  I think that team was better than this years Andrean team.  Things could go wrong in the game and WB could win.  Webo has played 2 good teams and lost to both of them.  I know you don't know who is going to win, but if you had to pick one team to win, who would it be, LCC or Western Boone?  Three 1A enrollment teams are doing very well in 2A.  LCC, Lutheran and AC.  I think they are all still 1A enrollment. 

The comback vrs Guerin was... eyeopening... n Lcc is also qite capable of shooting themselves in the foot... ther are some teams id discount... Webo and Andrean are Not on that list... jmho

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Id give the edge to Lcc n pick em at home... as for a 2A Title... the closest Lcc has ever got is when ther were 3 classes vrs 6 today... 😇

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Geurin had a very questionable holding called on them in the 3rd quarter that brought back a 65 yard touchdown throw to go up 28-7 midway through the 3rd quarter. Same exact spot that a questionable holding call was made last year in a pivotal moment of the second round of sectionals at LaRocca field. Coincidence...I think not!!!

[Tippy]

43 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

Geurin had a very questionable holding called on them in the 3rd quarter that brought back a 65 yard touchdown throw to go up 28-7 midway through the 3rd quarter. Same exact spot that a questionable holding call was made last year in a pivotal moment of the second round of sectionals at LaRocca field. Coincidence...I think not!!!

So LCC will never beat anyone good unless the refs help them?  Those darn refs never get anything right.  Maybe you could have bobref look at those calls.

[First_Backer_Inside]

7 minutes ago, Tippy said:

So LCC will never beat anyone good unless the refs help them?  Those darn refs never get anything right.  Maybe you could have bobref look at those calls.

Haha just having a little fun. I do think it was a ticky tacky call, but wasn't the reason Guerin lost the game. LCC played great defense down the stretch. Not sure I agree with the fourth down call to go for it, but I also understand why the coach did it, LCC had all the momentum and must not have thought they could stop them. Like the ballsy go for two call at the end too. 

You are right tho, those darn refs don't get anything right!

[Tippy]

5 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

Haha just having a little fun. I do think it was a ticky tacky call, but wasn't the reason Guerin lost the game. LCC played great defense down the stretch. Not sure I agree with the fourth down call to go for it, but I also understand why the coach did it, LCC had all the momentum and must not have thought they could stop them. Like the ballsy go for two call at the end too. 

You are right tho, those darn refs don't get anything right!

I was just having fun too!  I never thought they would beat Guerin.  I'm still surprised that LCC is 9-0.  I just hope LCC can make it to semi-state.

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8 minutes ago, Tippy said:

I was just having fun too!  I never thought they would beat Guerin.  I'm still surprised that LCC is 9-0.  I just hope LCC can make it to semi-state.

They are my pick to represent the North. Anything can happen in the month of November tho!

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4 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

The comback vrs Guerin was... eyeopening... n Lcc is also qite capable of shooting themselves in the foot... ther are some teams id discount... Webo and Andrean are Not on that list... jmho

All three of Guerin's TDs came after LCC turnovers ... including a pair of picks where LCC had driven down to the Guerin 5 and 3.  In the second half, LCC had zero turnovers.

 

4 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

Id give the edge to Lcc n pick em at home... as for a 2A Title... the closest Lcc has ever got is when ther were 3 classes vrs 6 today... 😇

Actually, I'd argue that 2014 was the closest for a 2A title.  LCC pretty much breezed through the 2A post-season before losing to eventual state champ, RCHS, in semi-state 17-14 after trailing 14-0 at the half at RCHS.  RCHS went on to put on a show at LOS convincingly beating Mater Dei 45-21.  Given LCC's team that year, and being at LOS, it's very likely that, had they pulled off the upset over RCHS, they would have also easily handled Mater Dei and picked up a 2A blue ring.

 

3 hours ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

Geurin had a very questionable holding called on them in the 3rd quarter that brought back a 65 yard touchdown throw to go up 28-7 midway through the 3rd quarter. Same exact spot that a questionable holding call was made last year in a pivotal moment of the second round of sectionals at LaRocca field. Coincidence...I think not!!!

It was only questionable because it had been happening all game and wasn't called, so it might have looked questionable.  The thing that makes it a whole bunch less questionable is that LCC had been applying pressure all night long and, as long as the Guerin QB had to make that pass on that play, either LCC rushed one player or there was holding on that play.

2 hours ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

Haha just having a little fun. I do think it was a ticky tacky call, but wasn't the reason Guerin lost the game. LCC played great defense down the stretch. Not sure I agree with the fourth down call to go for it, but I also understand why the coach did it, LCC had all the momentum and must not have thought they could stop them. Like the ballsy go for two call at the end too. 

You are right tho, those darn refs don't get anything right!

Remember, that Nay did the same thing to Lutheran with even more on the line in the state championship game in 2019.  Trailing with under a minute left in the game, LCC scored, to bring the game to 28-27, then opted for a successful two-point conversion with less than 10 seconds on the clock. 

 

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1 hour ago, foxbat said:

 

 

 

Actually, I'd argue that 2014 was the closest for a 2A title.  LCC pretty much breezed through the 2A post-season before losing to eventual state champ, RCHS, in semi-state 17-14 after trailing 14-0 at the half at RCHS.  RCHS went on to put on a show at LOS convincingly beating Mater Dei 45-21.  Given LCC's team that year, and being at LOS, it's very likely that, had they pulled off the upset over RCHS, they would have also easily handled Mater Dei and picked up a 2A blue ring.

 

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