CaptainHook Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Team A intercepts the ball and returns it 50 yards before being tackled. A personal foul (face mask) is called on the tackle by Team B. During the return, Team A is also flagged for holding. Where is the ball spotted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bobref Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, CaptainHook said: Team A intercepts the ball and returns it 50 yards before being tackled. A personal foul (face mask) is called on the tackle by Team B. During the return, Team A is also flagged for holding. Where is the ball spotted? First, we go to A’s captain and ask him if he’d like to keep the football. Since A got the ball with “clean hands,” i.e., without fouling, they get to keep the ball ... but only if they decline the penalty for the facemask foul. So, A will decline that penalty. Then B will accept the penalty for A’s holding foul during the return. That penalty is enforced differently, depending on where the foul occurred. If it occurred in advance of the end of the return, it’s enforced from the end of the return. If it occurred behind the end of the return, it’s enforced from the spot of the foul. 10 yds. 1st and 10 for Team A. If, for some weird reason, A accepts the penalty for the facemask foul, then you have a double foul. The penalties offset and you replay the down at the previous spot. Simple, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CaptainHook Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CaptainHook Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 This was incorrectly ruled this weekend at Whiteland. New Pal kept the ball but it was returned to the spot of the interception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moshiner1345 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, CaptainHook said: This was incorrectly ruled this weekend at Whiteland. New Pal kept the ball but it was returned to the spot of the interception. I wasn't there, but if the hold was 10 yards from the interception spot and the intercepting team returned it beyond the spot of the foul, then the 10 yard holding penalty would coincidently take the ball back to the place the ball was originally intercepted. I'm not sure that's what happened, just providing some insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bobref Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, CaptainHook said: This was incorrectly ruled this weekend at Whiteland. New Pal kept the ball but it was returned to the spot of the interception. That actually could have been a correct enforcement, but only by coincidence. If the holding took place 10 yds. in advance of the spot of the interception during the return, enforcement would take it back to the spot of the interception. But that's not because that's where it's supposed to go, but because that just happened to be 10 yds. from the basic spot, i.e., the spot of the foul. 1 minute ago, Moshiner1345 said: I wasn't there, but if the hold was 10 yards from the interception spot and the intercepting team returned it beyond the spot of the foul, then the 10 yard holding penalty would coincidently take the ball back to the place the ball was originally intercepted. I'm not sure that's what happened, just providing some insight. You beat me to the punch by about 5 seconds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CaptainHook Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 It was not. Hold (it was actually a push in the back) was flagged at midfield. Ball was returned to the 26 yard line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bobref Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, CaptainHook said: It was not. Hold (it was actually a push in the back) was flagged at midfield. Ball was returned to the 26 yard line. Then, I bet they marked the spot of the interception with a beanbag ... which is a mechanics error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CaptainHook Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, Bobref said: Then, I bet they marked the spot of the interception with a beanbag ... which is a mechanics error. Yes. Saw that on film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bobref Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, CaptainHook said: Yes. Saw that on film. Sigh ..... That just tells the world you don’t really know what you’re doing out there. Unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Team A intercepts the ball and returns it 50 yards before being tackled. A personal foul (face mask) is called on the tackle by Team B. During the return, Team A is also flagged for holding. Where is the ball spotted?
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