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  1. It truly is an unfortunate situation for the student athletes, fans, and administration of both of these schools.
  2. I believe that method of communication has been discussed on this forum previously. Therefore, I will hold my tongue.
  3. I'm going to play devils advocate here if I may... Please read with an open mind...and understand the purpose and intent of the mercy rule (stated in the forward below). AGAIN... I'm not trying to start an argument!!!! Why couldn't the clock be ran in the 2nd quarter or sooner? Similar to the procedures utilized last season? If the coaches agree to it, and the rule book supports it, why couldn't it still be done? I'm not talking about envoking the mercy rule, I'm talking about a running clock. I get the new mercy rule timing doesn't come into effect till the 2nd half, but why couldn't we use rule 3-1-3 to support a running clock earlier in the contest (like last year). Below is the rule reference (3-1-3) and the language posted about the mercy rule. Nothing in the language prohibits the ability to run the clock in the 1st half if the opposing coaches and referee agree. Remember the spirit and intent is to promote proper sportsmanship and reduce the chances of injury. ART. 3 . . . A period or periods may be shortened in any emergency by agreement of the opposing coaches and the referee. By mutual agreement of the opposing coaches and the referee, any remaining period may be shortened at any time or the game terminated. IHSAA Football Mercy Rule Foreword The Indiana High School Athletic Association in cooperation with the Indiana Football Coaches Association have created a protocol to expedite the conclusion of football contests when the point differential between schools reaches a particular threshold. These measures are placed to promote proper sportsmanship between member schools and potentially reduce the chances of injury to student athletes when mismatches between teams occur. Rules and Procedures 1. Beginning with the second half of any high school football game, when the point differential between teams is at or reaches 35 points, the game clock shall convert to a running clock. A running clock is defined as a clock that does not stop during play with the exception of timeouts, scores and/or injuries. 2. Once the running clock is implemented, the clock may not revert back to standard timing protocols regardless of the score of the contest. 3. The 40 second play clock shall remain in effect throughout the contest. Coaches do not have the ability to override the implementation of the Mercy Rule during a contest. The Referee shall notify the head coach of each school when the Mercy Rule goes into effect. The home team is responsible for notifying timing personnel of the running clock.
  4. I believe this is the philosophy of many crews. "Call the obvious", "make it be there", "whales not minnows" are a few of the phrases officials utilize in their pre-games. Safety fouls follow a different philosophy. However, there are those coaching staffs and fans who also voice their displeasure with the lack of flags thrown (against the other team of course).
  5. Is he insinuating a subconscious bias or flat out cheating in favor of the home team based on the physical location of where the game is being held? Statistics are great for trending datasets over time. But to truly understand the statistical validity of the data, each play needs needs to be graded as correct call, incorrect call, correct no call, or incorrect no call. Then those results need to have a T-test ran on them comparing the home team and the away team. That would reveal if there is a bias in officiating towards a specific team relative to the location of the game. Too many extraneous factors play into freethrows shot and fouls called.
  6. Trust me, Refs get fired and lose games for poor quality / misapplication of a rule. Seen it happen numerous times. It doesn't make the ESPN top 10 list because official's schedules aren't made public in advance like the team's schedules are, therefore fans don't even know who WAS supposed to be on a game. In men's Div 1 basketball conference play, officials are assigned by a conference. Home / Away mean nothing, the assignments come from the conference supervisor of officials. Power 5 cross conference games usually use a blended crew where 1 ref is primary in the conference for the home team, the 2nd ref is a primary in the conference for the away team, and the 3rd ref works in both conferences.
  7. At the HS level, specifically for FB, there is not much accountability for officials on their performance other than what you mentioned regarding the coaches vote, a small observers program, and self-inflicted/crew chief inflicted accountability, which shouldn't be underestimated. I just broke down our film from last Friday and I literally had at least 20 clips on positioning and crew mechanics. Those are the things that coaches and fans may not be as attuned to, but you have to be in the right position to see the play, and make a ruling. Here is the crux of the matter... The overwhelming majority of Friday night officials also have day jobs and officiating is merely a side gig. The money isn't that good and the time away from the family for meetings, clinics, and travel to/from games can add up over the season. There is already a shortage of officials and if you introduce some sort of accountability program at the HS level, say goodbye to having every team in the state play on Friday night. You may see an increase in the quality of officiating, but I'm not sure the benefits would outweigh the drawbacks at the HS level. Speaking from a Div. 1 men's basketball standpoint. You better believe there is accountability on those officials. Games are taken away, schedules are reduced, and careers are ended based on the quality of work. You may not hear about it publicly, but I can assure you there is accountability at that level.
  8. I'm not sure how to adjust the topic heading, otherwise I would modify it. The original post was generated based on the rumors circulating; clearly the rumors were just that.... rumors.
  9. Isn't it interesting how communication filters down from the IHSAA with respects to the officiating. I've read a few times on these exact forums that the IHSAA wants the officials to do things a certain way, or handle situations in a specific manner. HOWEVER, I never have received anything from the IHSAA themselves. In the officiating forum, someone posted about how to handle the fake kneel down situation, yet I've never heard anything from the IHSAA. I understand that they have a ton of things to monitor and rule upon and that's why there should be a supervisor of officials who is responsible for communication, training, and development.
  10. Heard through the rumor mill that there was an altercation between a Danville player and a referee Friday night after the game. Haven't seen it covered on here, so I didn't know if it was truthful or hocus pocus. Anyone have insight?
  11. Stirs Pot You have to know Muda well enough to know he's a HUGE proponent of Frankfort being a 4a school (insert tongue in cheek)
  12. I'll add one more, it's published by our neighbors in OHIO, but they post weekly quizzes and also weekly bulletins that discuss plays from the previous weeks. https://ohsaafb.com/ It's too bad Indiana doesn't have something like this 😞 Some really good content and presentations to learn and get better.
  13. When judging a play, I think we always have to go back to the definition of the play in question. So the definition of a defenseless player is below. If you feel your play meets one of the criteria listed, then it's a flag. Be prepared and arm yourself with key phrases when having to discuss the penalty with the coach (usually the white hat). I.E. "coach he is receiver who is considered a defenseless because he was in a position that is especially vulnerable to injury and had not had time to clearly become a runner" Kinda wordy, but can't be argued. (PS I'm not saying that is the case with your play, since I have not seen it). Rule: 2-32-16 ART. 16 . . . A defenseless player is a player who, because of his physical position and focus of concentration, is especially vulnerable to injury. A player who initiates contact against a defenseless player is responsible for making legal contact. When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include, but are not limited to: a. A passer; b. A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner; c. The intended receiver of a pass in the action during and immediately following an interception or potential interception; d. A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped; e. A kickoff or punt returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner; f. A player on the ground including a runner who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet-first; g. A player obviously out of the play or not in the immediate vicinity of the runner; and h. A player who receives a blindside block with forceful contact not initiated with open hands.
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