hhpatriot04 Posted November 28, 2025 Posted November 28, 2025 i thought this was very interesting. I used the Sagarin predictors from Week 13. Winning Team, Losing Team — Sagarin favorite (real margin vs. prediction) CLASS 1A Pioneer 31, SOUTH ADAMS 14 — Pioneer by 8 (-17 pts) South Putnam 40, MILAN 7 — South Putnam BY 14 (-19 pts) CLASS 2A ANDREAN 24, Adams Central 19 — ANDREAN by 5 (1 pt) Brownstown Central 31, LAPEL 21 — Brownstown by 7 (-3 pts) CLASS 3A FW LUERS 35, Knox 0 — Knox by 5 (40 pts) CASCADE 49, Gibson Southern 34 — CASCADE by 4 (9 pts) CLASS 4A FW DWENGER 28, South Bend St. Joseph 7 — DWENGER by 5 (16 pts) RONCALLI 42, Heritage Hills 14 — RONCALLI by 14 (28 pts) CLASS 5A MERRILLVILLE 41, Concord 14 — MERRILLVILLE by 4 (23 pts) NEW PALESTINE 42, Bloomington South 0 — NEW PAL by 8 (34 pts) CLASS 6A Westfield 35, FW CARROLL 14 — Westfield by 10 (-11 pts) BROWNSBURG 31, Warren Central 0 — BROWNSBURG by 14 (17 pts) HOME TEAMS went 8-4 in semistate games. HOME TEAMS beat their Sagarin prediction by 118 total points (9.8 points per game — this is factoring in the "negative" points from road winners). Quote
Bobref Posted November 28, 2025 Posted November 28, 2025 10 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said: i thought this was very interesting. I used the Sagarin predictors from Week 13. Winning Team, Losing Team — Sagarin favorite (real margin vs. prediction) CLASS 1A Pioneer 31, SOUTH ADAMS 14 — Pioneer by 8 (-17 pts) South Putnam 40, MILAN 7 — South Putnam BY 14 (-19 pts) CLASS 2A ANDREAN 24, Adams Central 19 — ANDREAN by 5 (1 pt) Brownstown Central 31, LAPEL 21 — Brownstown by 7 (-3 pts) CLASS 3A FW LUERS 35, Knox 0 — Knox by 5 (40 pts) CASCADE 49, Gibson Southern 34 — CASCADE by 4 (9 pts) CLASS 4A FW DWENGER 28, South Bend St. Joseph 7 — DWENGER by 5 (16 pts) RONCALLI 42, Heritage Hills 14 — RONCALLI by 14 (28 pts) CLASS 5A MERRILLVILLE 41, Concord 14 — MERRILLVILLE by 4 (23 pts) NEW PALESTINE 42, Bloomington South 0 — NEW PAL by 8 (34 pts) CLASS 6A Westfield 35, FW CARROLL 14 — Westfield by 10 (-11 pts) BROWNSBURG 31, Warren Central 0 — BROWNSBURG by 14 (17 pts) HOME TEAMS went 8-4 in semistate games. HOME TEAMS beat their Sagarin prediction by 118 total points (9.8 points per game — this is factoring in the "negative" points from road winners). And Sagarin favorites went 11-1. Quote
jakone Posted November 28, 2025 Posted November 28, 2025 2 hours ago, Bobref said: And Sagarin favorites went 11-1. The only loss was Luers which makes me feel better against Cascade Quote
Bobref Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 6 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said: So was this a fluke? Insufficient data. Quote
First_Backer_Inside Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 Send this to Vegas and ask them. They are pretty good at this sort of thing. If they can't help you, at least we know everything in the professional sporting world is scripted. Quote
Bobref Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 3 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said: at least we know everything in the professional sporting world is scripted. Not you, too, with this “NFL is rigged” claptrap? How do you feel about the Moon landing? Flat earth? Quote
First_Backer_Inside Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 6 minutes ago, Bobref said: Not you, too, with this “NFL is rigged” claptrap? How do you feel about the Moon landing? Flat earth? Haven't looked into them. I like the idea of us on the moon. Which means I'm all for the earth being round...I think. I wasn't a firm believer in the NFL thing until the last couple of years. How do the Chiefs run through the NFL for multiple years in a row while Taylor Swift and Kelce are all over news making the NFL money and drawing outside fans attention. The attention dies down...so does the Chiefs dominance. Just odd to me. I could keep going on things of recent but I don't really believe it, more just speculation that makes sense to me. Up until after Covid and sportsbooks becoming more popular, I haven't really looked into it. If I didn't think Vegas has a little bit of pull in how professional sports go every year, I would call myself crazy, but I'm not confident enough in it to call anyone else crazy. 1 Quote
jakone Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bobref said: Not you, too, with this “NFL is rigged” claptrap? How do you feel about the Moon landing? Flat earth? Refs rigged the Colts game and I would like to send them on a round the world cruise. Maybe they will fall off the flat Earth. 🌎🌍🤣 Edited December 1, 2025 by jakone 1 Quote
Bobref Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 10 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said: Haven't looked into them. I like the idea of us on the moon. Which means I'm all for the earth being round...I think. I wasn't a firm believer in the NFL thing until the last couple of years. How do the Chiefs run through the NFL for multiple years in a row while Taylor Swift and Kelce are all over news making the NFL money and drawing outside fans attention. The attention dies down...so does the Chiefs dominance. Just odd to me. I could keep going on things of recent but I don't really believe it, more just speculation that makes sense to me. Up until after Covid and sportsbooks becoming more popular, I haven't really looked into it. If I didn't think Vegas has a little bit of pull in how professional sports go every year, I would call myself crazy, but I'm not confident enough in it to call anyone else crazy. Disappointing. Quote
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