Guest DT Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Georgia moves past Bama into the top spot. Pudue jumps from 51 to 38 from 2019 to 2020, big move ahead for the Boilers and a sign of significant recruiting improvement by Brohm and staff IU still holding at #53, ahead of only Minnesota and Rutgers in the B10 (hard to believe Minn is #13 in B10 based on their recent performance) SEC is unbelievable, with 11 schools in the Top 26. Penn State starting to pull away from Michigan for #2 in the B10. Mac Brown making huge gains at North Carolina ND moves yup to #8 from #14 last year. https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Iu is still fighting its image. Rightfully so. Until they produce on the field, 5 and 4 stars are not going to give them a whiff. The bowl game last year ,the coaches lost ,would have been a real turning point in the Allen era, if they had won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, southend said: Iu is still fighting its image. Rightfully so. Until they produce on the field, 5 and 4 stars are not going to give them a whiff. The bowl game last year ,the coaches lost ,would have been a real turning point in the Allen era, if they had won. Agree. Hard to fault any 4 star or 5 star for not giving IU a look. The Big 4 (Alabama/Georgia/Clemson/Ohio State) have pulled so far out in front of everyone else its difficult to see how any can catch up. These 4 have a total monopoly on the 5 Star talent. I could possibly see Florida with Dan Mullen breaking into that group at some point. And maybe ND or Texas could breakthru. I think the only hope for IU long term is if the B10 decides that too much power resides in the East and the conference has become too unbalanced. The way to correct this, to IUs advantage, would be to go to a North-South alignment. This alignment recognizes the 4 Super Powers (OSU/MICH/PS/NEB) , as well as the OSU-MICH rivalry, and separates them equally into oppositie divisions: Big 10 North Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, MIchigan, Michigan State Big 10 South Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Ha you know, I have looked at this for a long time, the Big 10 divisions, and at this point I don’t think any change would be drastic enough to help Indiana. It starts with money, pony up for coaches who can attract talent, win a few important games, then the school gets on the radar of the high schools. Period. Coaches, that are willing to accept the challenge, and they have to be compensated big time. You have in the past pointed out Kentucky program. If I’m a wildcat alum, I’m pretty excited about football. I don’t think realignment has had any thing to do with the granule success that they have had. I could go on and on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, southend said: Ha you know, I have looked at this for a long time, the Big 10 divisions, and at this point I don’t think any change would be drastic enough to help Indiana. It starts with money, pony up for coaches who can attract talent, win a few important games, then the school gets on the radar of the high schools. Period. Coaches, that are willing to accept the challenge, and they have to be compensated big time. You have in the past pointed out Kentucky program. If I’m a wildcat alum, I’m pretty excited about football. I don’t think realignment has had any thing to do with the granule success that they have had. I could go on and on here. Good point. KY has a huge talent advantage over IU. Cats are #26 in the talent composit with 20 four stars and IU is #53 with 5 four stars. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Indiana has always been short sighted with respect to sports image. The administrators have this idea that everyone wants to attend our school. Before Jerry Yagley showed up, nobody heard of Soccer at indiana, before Sam Bell showed up nobody heard of track at Indiana, before Doc Councilman showed up, nobody heated of swimming at Indiana. Before Bob Knight showed up Indiana was called a basketball state but he took the university program to a unprecedented level. The athletes need an incentive to attend a school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, southend said: The athletes need an incentive to attend a school. I guess a free or reduced-price education isn't good enough anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 57 minutes ago, Muda69 said: I guess a free or reduced-price education isn't good enough anymore. Not if it means you’re going to get the business end of a 2x4 every Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eschnur66 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: I guess a free or reduced-price education isn't good enough anymore. Of course not, when it is the exact same deal that you are going to get from other schools. That part is equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, southend said: Not if it means you’re going to get the business end of a 2x4 every Saturday. I would think a mature athlete would ruminate "We may be getting beat every Saturday, but at least I'm getting my education paid for. My playing days won't last forever......." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: I would think a mature athlete would ruminate "We may be getting beat every Saturday, but at least I'm getting my education paid for. My playing days won't last forever......." Mature athlete? Certainly. Add 5 star rating to that maturity, nada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Sure looks like Alabama's 5 stars are still better than Georgia's 5 stars. Tide put a whuppin on the Dawgs yesterday. They should just cancel the rest of the college football season and have Bama and Clemson play a best 2 out of 3 to determine the NC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 9 hours ago, DT said: Sure looks like Alabama's 5 stars are still better than Georgia's 5 stars. Tide put a whuppin on the Dawgs yesterday. They should just cancel the rest of the college football season and have Bama and Clemson play a best 2 out of 3 to determine the NC. Ok, then that settles it. Ohio state is in the second tier nationally. I couldn’t be happier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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