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New Donald Trump thread
swordfish replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
https://www.analyzingamerica.org/breaking-impeachment-backfiring-california-to-lose-congressional-seat-for-first-time-in-history/?fbclid=IwAR3Or8zCXfv4FpUDWsSiupDdBEjK5luutwMqMjGrc7g974dsBRbCN_ZWpPc The latest U.S. Census reveals that the 2020 decennial count may cause California to lose a seat in Congress, according to the Wall Street Journal. This would be the first time in California’s history. Other “Sun Belt” states may gain congressional representation.IN Political power is shifting away from the Northeast and Midwest toward the Southeast and Southwest. Residents seem to be moving to states with warm weather, strong job growth, cheaper housing and, in some cases, lower taxes. U.S. Census Bureau released updates on the state’s population changes through July 1 in California. “Based on Monday’s figures, Texas is poised to gain two congressional seats, and Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon are expected to gain one,” Breitbart reported. “Eight states are expected to lose one seat: California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia,” the report added. “The actual reapportionment calculation will take place by December 2020, with its details worked out in 2021. Each state will redraw its legislative maps, and those that have more than one congressional seat will redraw districts as well.” The likely loss in representation would come despite California helping to lead the “resistance” to President Donald Trump’s proposal to add a question to the Census asking respondents if they are U.S. citizens. California and other states feared that they could lose congressional seats if they were subsequently apportioned based on the number of citizens rather than the number of residents; California is a prime destination for immigrations, including illegal ones. Interesting turn of events. California, Illinois, and New York along with Minnesota and Pennsylvania.......Doesn't have anything to do with the impeachment, IMHO, but very interesting......Especially since CA, IL and NY are mainly red states due to the counties of and those surrounding the largest cities.......and highest tax rates...... -
A Little Interesting
swordfish replied to foxbat's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
A debate about Cowpies and other feces in "A little interesting" topic......... Glad I was on vacation last week.......- 64 replies
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swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
This level of dysfunction in Washington is exactly why I can now support term limit legislation for both houses of congress...... -
The New Normal, round 2
swordfish replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Exactly my thought as well. ON ANOTHER TOPIC: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-church-shooting-parishioners-praised-for-stopping-gunman-who-killed-two-at-west-freeway-church-of-christ/ The man shot two male parishioners in the corner of the church before being shot by a parishioner who's part of a volunteer security team. Several more members drew their guns as well. There were more than 240 people inside at the time. "This team responded quickly, and within six seconds, the shooting was over," Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said. Don't try to start a mass shooting in a rural Texas church...... -
The New Normal, round 2
swordfish replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
I think we are glad you are in NV as well Dante......... -
The New Normal, round 2
swordfish replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
My Daughter sent this to me this morning. She is in the admin at Goshen Community Schools and in this video a number of times. Very well done for an impromptu - However, I am guessing some liberal heads are going to explode...... -
Impeachment Trial
swordfish replied to gonzoron's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/18/pollak-senate-can-acquit-even-if-house-doesnt-transmit-articles-of-impeachment-constitution/ Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) appears to be considering an idea Democrats have floated for several days of holding back the articles of impeachment to exercise leverage over the Senate and the president. She declined formally to transmit the articles to the Senate on Wednesday evening after the House voted to impeach President Donald Trump. Unfortunately for them, the Senate can act, regardless — and would vote to acquit. That’s because the Constitution is absolutely clear about the Senate’s authority. Article I, Section 3 says: “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.” That is all. The Chief Justice presides over a trial involving the president, but the Senate makes the rules. And the Senate is controlled by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who regards what the House has done with contempt. You’re in Cocaine Mitch’s court, now. Politico outlined Democrats’ new idea, citing constitutional lawyer Laurence Tribe (but, interestingly, not the Constitution itself). Pelosi hopes to pressure McConnell into holding a “fair trial” — this, after she and her party broke every relevant House rule and precedent, and several Amendments in the Bill of Rights, all in the name of their “sole Power of Impeachment.” They forget that a “fair trial” applies to the accused, not the accuser, and has since 1215. Set aside, for the moment, that holding onto the articles of impeachment would contradict everything Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) and the Democrats have said for weeks about the “urgency” of impeachment. They needed to stop him before he could “cheat in the next election,” we were told — that’s why the House could not wait for the courts to rule on the White House’s resistance to stop congressional subpoenas. All of that would be exposed as a lie. If Pelosi refuses to submit the articles of impeachment to the Senate, McConnell can convene the Senate anyway, summon the Chief Justice, and swear in the Senators as jurors. Democrats can boycott, but they can’t stop the trial. McConnell can then propose to dismiss the charges or even hold a vote to acquit the president. Pelosi can hide the articles of impeachment in Adam Schiff’s basement forever, and it won’t make a bit of difference. Case closed. Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. He earned an A.B. in Social Studies and Environmental Science and Public Policy from Harvard College, and a J.D. from Harvard Law School. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. He is also the co-author of How Trump Won: The Inside Story of a Revolution, which is available from Regnery. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak. Any Legal Beagles care to deposit your .02 worth to this one? -
Impeachment Trial
swordfish replied to gonzoron's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-tulsi-gabbard-present-vote-impeach-trump Yep - but the press has been very careful not to cover her as much. Perhaps the shrewd speaker laid down some rules for the MSM to ignore AOC. Mrs. Shrewdness better be careful of her words - the once solemn and prayerful Catholic speaker now "has a spring in her step after impeachment"........ BTW - If she determines it in her best interest to not send the articles to the Senate (for whatever reason) the Senate can throw the whole thing out....... -
Impeachment inquiry
swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
The left didn't think this through - And now DJT will carry his impeachment like a trophy...... -
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swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Thanks for pointing that out Mr. Muda..... -
Impeachment inquiry
swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/13/21011471/house-democrats-impeachment-vote-trump And let the defections start........Surely won't be enough defections to get this to drop, but fun to watch the dems in the red states squirm....... A SF Prediction of masses? Hardly.......But squirming they are this morning........ The "debunked" Biden angle? The fireworks haven't even begun yet........ -
Impeachment Trial
swordfish replied to gonzoron's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
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Impeachment Trial
swordfish replied to gonzoron's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/some-house-democrats-push-pelosi-to-withhold-impeachment-articles-delaying-senate-trial/ar-BBY8MUq WASHINGTON — A group of House Democrats is pushing Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other leaders to withhold the articles of impeachment against President Trump that emerged from the House on Wednesday, potentially delaying a Senate trial for months. The notion of impeaching Trump but holding the articles in the House has gained traction among some of the political left as a way to potentially force Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky, to conduct a trial on more favorable terms for Democrats. And if no agreement is reached, some have argued, the trial could be delayed indefinitely, denying Trump an expected acquittal. The gambit has gained some traction inside the left wing of the House Democratic Caucus this week. Representative Earl Blumenauer, Democrat of Oregon, said Wednesday, as his colleagues debated the impeachment articles on the House floor, that he has spoken to three dozen Democratic lawmakers who expressed some level of enthusiasm for the idea of ‘‘rounding out the record and spending the time to do this right.’’ ‘‘At a minimum, there ought to be an agreement about access to witnesses, rules of the game, timing,’’ Blumenauer said of a Senate trial. Another Democrat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said there is ‘‘serious concern about whether there will be a fair trial on the Senate side’’ and acknowledged active talks about withholding the articles. After the impeachment vote Wednesday, Pelosi would not rule out the idea of withholding the articles. The notion has been most prominently advocated by Laurence Tribe, a Harvard Law School professor who has advised the House Judiciary Committee on the impeachment process. In a recent Washington Post op-ed, he wrote that ‘‘the public has a right to observe a meaningful trial rather than simply learn that the result is a verdict of not guilty.’’ Senate minority leader Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York, has asked McConnell to call several Trump administration witnesses, including acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and former national security adviser John Bolton. McConnell has dismissed those requests and signaled that he expects to hold a relatively short trial that will end with a summary dismissal of the impeachment charges. Republicans have scoffed at the notion of the House withholding the articles, noting it hardly counts as leverage to deny the GOP the ability to remove a president that the party wants to keep in place. Some aides further argued that withholding the articles would only fuel Republican arguments that Democrats are engaged in a partisan abuse of the Constitution. Democratic leaders may be forced to deal with the issue in the coming days. Blumenauer said he had already raised the issue with House majority leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland and other top Democrats, as well as Pelosi. Speaking to reporters Tuesday, Hoyer did not rule out the idea: ‘‘It’s an interesting proposal. I don’t think that that’s the path we will follow, but that does not mean we will immediately deliver it. There are considerations related to other legislation.’’ A senior Democratic aide who spoke on the condition of anonymity said the impeachment articles will not be immediately transmitted to the Senate Wednesday. Rather, they will be held until Pelosi names impeachment managers, the House members who will present the case for Trump’s removal in the Senate. ‘‘There will be a debate and vote on that resolution’’ naming the managers, the aide said. If a significant number of Democrats refuse to vote for that resolution, they could force the issue. The timing of that vote is unclear; the House is expected to recess for the winter holidays as soon as Thursday and not return until Jan. 7. Blumenauer said that if McConnell does not agree to call the Democratic witnesses and stage a fair trial, Democrats could simply hold on to the articles and continue to investigate Trump. The House is involved in multiple court cases seeking documents and testimony that have yet to be resolved. ‘‘Who knows what would happen to augment the record? This ought to be able to play out,’’ he said. ‘‘There’s no advantage to rushing this.’’ But the notion of prolonging the impeachment process indefinitely is almost certain to infuriate House members from competitive districts, who have pushed Pelosi for months to keep the investigation focused and limited to Trump’s Ukraine conduct. Wow - anyone care to comment? -
Impeachment inquiry
swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
The inquiry is over - All the Dems (except for 3) voted for it, and the President was impeached by the House of Representatives as a result. Do you think they woke up the sleeping giant kinda like the Japanese did the US at Pearl Harbor? Lest we forget: "well Son of a Bi#@$"...... -
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swordfish replied to gonzoron's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
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swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
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Impeachment inquiry
swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
I didn't know about the GID 20 years ago....... Oh and President Clinton did actually lie under oath.....and he did attempt to influence a witness (Monica)....... -
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swordfish replied to TheStatGuy's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
BTW - While you 2 are in the middle of a cat-fight, the Congressional Democrats are debating the horribly obvious partisan impeachment of our current President while (out of the other side of their mouths) accusing the Senate of partisanship......🤣 -
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/secret-fisa-court-issues-highly-unusual-rebuke-fbi-mistakes-n1103451 WASHINGTON — The secret federal court that approves orders for conducting surveillance on suspected foreign terrorists or spies issued a strong and highly unusual public rebuke to the FBI on Tuesday, ordering the agency to say how it intends to correct the errors revealed last week by a Justice Department report on one aspect of the FBI's investigation of Donald Trump's 2016 campaign. Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz said the FBI made serious and repeated mistakes in seeking under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, to conduct surveillance of Carter Page, a former Trump campaign adviser. The FBI's submission to the court made assertions that were "inaccurate, incomplete, or unsupported by appropriate documentation," the report said. Rosemary Collyer, presiding judge on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, said in the unusual public order that the report "calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable." She ordered the FBI to explain in writing by Jan. 10 how it intends to remedy those problems. Collyer said the FBI's handling of the Page case "was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor" required by the law that established the surveillance court. Judges on the court rely entirely on the government's submissions. Because they are the only documents the court sees, the government has a heightened duty of candor, she said. Her order said the FBI must explain "what it has done, and plans to do, to ensure the statements of facts in each FBI application accurately and completely reflects information possessed by the FBI." Inspector General Michael Horowitz said last week that he has already opened a new review, looking at whether the FBI is complying with its duty to provide accurate information to the FISA court in seeking to conduct surveillance of Americans in terrorism and spying investigations.FBI Director Christopher Wray announced shortly after the inspector general's report was issued that he has ordered changes in how the FBI submits requests to the FISA court. "The FBI has some work to do," he said. In response to Tuesday’s order, the FBI said in a statement that it is committed to working with the FISA court and the Justice Department to ensure the accuracy and completeness of the process. "FISA is an indispensable tool in national security investigations," the FBI said. The FISA court, established by Congress, consists of 11 federal judges chosen by the Supreme Court's chief justice and meets in secret in a federal courthouse in Washington. It has long been criticized by civil libertarians who consider it simply an arm of the government and not sufficiently independent. "This was not the first time the government abused its surveillance powers, nor was it the first time the intelligence court was made aware of surveillance abuses," said Neema Singh Guliani of the ACLU. "Congress must radically reform the FISA process to increase accountability, and to ensure that there is a meaningful opportunity to challenge the government's allegations in FISA applications. We can't trust the secret intelligence court alone to police this process." FBI Director James"I did nothing wrong, there was no wiretapping" Comey I believe......
