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Andrew Mevis (K): Undrafted Free Agent: Jacksonville Jaguars via Iowa State and Fordham and Warsaw Community High School

Mevis finished his only season in Ames (as a graduate transfer from Fordham) 20-of-23 on field goals, including 2-for-2 on kicks of 50+ yards, and was perfect on PATs. Mevis was arguably the best kicker in the entire draft, and will presumably have a shot at taking the starting job since the Jaguars released longtime kicker Josh Lambo midway through the 2021 season.

1 hour ago, Blitz said:

Series begins in 2025. Home and home. Have adjusted the list. 

Gotcha! Thanks! Still - where/when did you see this was announced? I'm not saying it wasn't, I just missed it and haven't found anything official myself. Pumped for the Tigers and Panthers to square off though.

26 minutes ago, Warren Central Warrior said:

I thought Warren Central was scheduled to play Warsaw in 2024 and 2025? Did the Warriors and Tigers back out of the contract early?

No - they are still scheduled to play a home and home in 2024 and 2025.

I must have missed the official announcement of Snider and Warsaw playing in 2024. When was that announced? And only a 1 year contract?

Warsaw will be playing Snider (I am assuming at home?) in Week 1 then will be visiting Warren Central in Week 2.

3 hours ago, Indiana Fan said:

Alright I will put them in there

I mean... I don't know how you can't lol

14 minutes ago, Indiana Fan said:

Jimtown would’ve been next on my list. Just haven’t heard much of them lately, but then again I could be wrong. NorthWood has always been a good program as well

Jimtown definitely falls into the category of "If you asked this question in 2010" who would have been included. They have now gone 7 seasons without a sectional championship, 12 seasons without a regional championship, and haven't made it to semi-state in 16 years. They are like the "Indiana basketball" version of "Blue Blood"... the clock is slowly ticking away to keep their status.

I think it was said earlier - but it would have been interesting to see this list 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and who would have been included then and who isn't now. Two "smaller" schools from Michiana that I personally have always viewed as "blue blood" programs that I don't think have been mentioned yet are Jimtown and NorthWood.

The Jimmies have 22 Sectional, 12 Regional, 6 Semi-State and 4 State Championships. However, the last of each of those titles respectively are 2014, 2009, 2005 and 2005. Since the school has grown into a 3A enrollment, they have not seen the same level of postseason success that they did for the better part of 3 decades.

The Panthers have 18 Sectional, 11 Regional, 6 Semi-State and 1 State Championships. As the case is with the Jimmies, since they moved into class 4A a little over a decade ago, they won a Sectional Championship in 2011 and were State Runner-Ups (14-1 record) in 2016. It has been tougher sledding for NorthWood since moving to 4A.

I still consider both of these programs to be "blue blood" status. However, that is just my opinion.

On 4/16/2022 at 7:03 AM, WolvesOnTheProwl said:

That was the lineup when I was in hs (graduated in 96). I’m not sure how many years those were the 6 teams but this would have been like 92, 93, 94, 95 and possibly 96 or until jamborees stopped 

On 4/16/2022 at 9:38 AM, maroonman said:

Warsaw joined those 5 in 1986 and for the final 11 years of the "jamboree era" ('86 - '96) the event featured Mishawaka, Marian, Penn, St. Joe, Elkhart Memorial and Warsaw.

Makes sense! My father joined the staff at Warsaw in 1996... and I was in early elementary at that time. I do feel like I have a memory of multiple teams being on the field at one time. Had just completely forgotten about it!

6 hours ago, WolvesOnTheProwl said:

Mishawaka jamboree used to have Penn, Warsaw, SB St Joe, Marian, Elkhart Memorial, and Mishawaka. I always loved going to the jamboree. 

How about a controlled scrimmage jamboree?!?

How long ago was this? I only ask because for the years Elkhart Memorial was a school, Warsaw never participated in a jamboree with them to my knowledge. In the 90s and through the 00s, Warsaw would scrimmage against SB Clay. Then I think that switched to Tippecanoe Valley for a few years and now they scrimmage Leo. I personally do not ever remember the Tigers being in a Jamboree with those teams you mentioned, but my memory is really only good from 1995 onward.

Also - not saying it didn't happen. I think it's awesome if it did! Definitely would have been fun to go to with those 6 schools.

38 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Is it the Plymouth Rockies or Plymouth Pilgrims?

Trying to clear it up for the website and book, thanks!

Dan

AlmanacSports.com

For football (and I believe wrestling), it's the Rockies. Everything else is Pilgrims.

Will they add a game Week 5 on 9/16/2022?

I could probably look this up myself, but I'd rather someone else tell me this morning as I've got work to do 😛 

Does 8-man football play on the same size field as a regular high school football field? As well, if these new 8-man football schools are likely NEW completely to football, will they be building new stadiums or using a nearby school's facilities instead? Is the thought that games will be played on Friday night as well? I would guess many of the schools would want/need to rent other school's facilities and then for logistics purposes, games will be played on a night other than Friday, yeah?

I have no quarrel with either of you here... but as an admin/mod who likes to remind posters to stay on topic, this has certainly been derailed by you @Irishman 

Your first post? Perfectly fine. But then following up to your own post asking what was funny about it just stoked the fires for absolutely no reason.

5A South is really 8 groups of 2 teams. Just gotta figure out what groups match up with whom.

Harrison (WL) and McCutcheon

Terre Haute North and Terre Haute South

Plainfield and Decatur Central

Franklin and Whiteland

Bloomington North and Bloomington South

Columbus East and Seymour

Floyd Central and New Albany

Evansville North and Castle

It won't happen because Anderson is terrible, but in the scenario above (and what I'm pretty confident will happen) how wild would it be if Anderson was the 5A NORTH representative while Harrison (WL) was the 5A SOUTH representative.

1 hour ago, Piratefan101 said:

Anyone wanna take a stab at 5A? Since there are 4 more schools in north(none near Indy) than the south bracket 

Pretty sure I did in another thread - but here's my guess:

5A North is pretty simple.

Sectional 9: Hammon Central, Hammond Morton, Merrillville, Munster
Sectional 10: Chesterton, LaPorte, Michigan City, Valparaiso
Sectional 11: Concord, Goshen, Mishawaka, SB Adams
Sectional 12: Anderson, FW Dwenger, FW North, FW Snider

5A South could have a few options:

Sectional 13: Decatur Central, Harrison (WL), McCutcheon, Plainfield
Sectional 14: Bloomington North, Bloomington South, Terre Haute North, Terre Haute South
Sectional 15: Columbus East, Franklin, Seymour, Whiteland
Sectional 16: Castle, Evansville North, Floyd Central, New Albany

Sectional 13: Harrison (WL), McCutcheon, Terre Haute North, Terre Haute South
Sectional 14: Bloomington North, Bloomington South, Decatur Central, Plainfield
Sectional 15: Columbus East, Franklin, Seymour, Whiteland
Sectional 16: Castle, Evansville North, Floyd Central, New Albany

Sectional 13: Decatur Central, Harrison (WL), McCutcheon, Plainfield
Sectional 14: Bloomington North, Bloomington South, Franklin, Whiteland
Sectional 15: Columbus East, Floyd Central, New Albany, Seymour
Sectional 16: Castle, Evansville North, Terre Haute North, Terre Haute South

16 hours ago, Piratefan101 said:

There has already been a statement by the HCC schools that they are making the travel all the way north 

Actually the state said 5-6A from here on out will have 32. It’s on there Twitter 

1 hour ago, US31 said:

???

This wouldn't surprise me, it HAS to happen. Looking at the schools, I previously posted these options for 6A North. There are 10 schools NORTH of Indy in 6A. At the very least, 2 schools will HAVE to head NORTH to make up 3 of the sectionals.

My best guesses:

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lafayette Jeff, Lake Central, Portage
Sectional 2: Elkhart, Penn, Warsaw, Westfield
Sectional 3: Carroll, Homestead, Noblesville, Northrop
Sectional 4: Carmel, Fishers, Hamilton Southeastern, Zionsville

OR

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lake Central, Lafayette Jeff, Zionsville
Sectional 2: Elkhart, Penn, Portage, Warsaw
Sectional 3. Carroll, Homestead, Noblesville, Northrop
Sectional 4: Carmel, Fishers, Hamilton Southeastern, Westfield

There is precedent already set of sending Noblesville NORTH to a sectional with Fort Wayne schools. Happened just a few years ago. I think that is a guarantee.

That leaves your others options of either sending Westfield NORTH on US 31 to join Elkhart, Penn and Warsaw OR sending Zionsville north up Interstate 65 to join Lafayette Jeff with two schools in The Region. There is precedent set here as well with Zionsville being in sectionals with Harrison (West Lafayette) and McCutcheon previously.

If one of the two options I have listed here end up NOT being the sectional groupings for 6A North - I will donate an extra $50 on top of my normal $30 donation to the GID for the next year.

NLC Enrollment figured based on updated announcement from IHSAA

Warsaw appears to be heading the way of Valparaiso, Chesterton and Merrillville on a descent into Class 5A. With both Whiteland and Harrison (West Lafayette) both growing signficantly over the last 5-7 years, Warsaw could very well see themselves in Class 5A by the next reclassification cycle. Especially if Cathedral accumulates enough points to stay in 6A.

Interesting to note the Elkhart County and St Joseph County schools (Goshen, Concord, Northridge, NorthWood and Mishawaka) with jumps UP in terms of size ranking when compared to the Kosciusko and Marshall County schools (Warsaw, Wawasee, and Plymouth).

For fun, I went back and found the 13-14 enrollment numbers. Interesting to see the trends for each school from almost a decade ago.

On 3/3/2022 at 10:11 AM, jets said:

I was under the impression the SF was a 2 year cycle- but I get blasted every time I try and point out SR/Pioneer could potentially get 3 years under this decision. 

On 3/3/2022 at 11:31 AM, NLCTigerFan07 said:

It's hard to follow how you laid it out, so let me try a different way.

I believe technically, it's going to be a 6 year stay, all based on the 2020 Regional Championship while in 3A.

The 6 points accumulated from the 2017 and 2018 seasons in 2A bumped them up to 3A.

In the next two-year cylce, 2 points were accumulated thanks to the Regional Championship in 2020. So NO MATTER WHAT - Southridge was going to stay in 3A for the 2021 and 2022 seasons. So next year playing in 3A would have happened COVID be damned.

However, it looks like that 2020 Regional Championship will keep Southridge in 3A for the 2022 and 2023 seasons as well. So I see what you are saying.

Hey @jets - Just following up here. With the updated enrollment numbers, it looks like Southridge will be in 3A due to enrollment anyway. I show them as the 3rd smallest school via enrollment in class 3A.

Even if Chatard gets bumped to stay in class 4A and Western Boone gets bumped to stay in class 3A, Southridge will still stay in 3A.

4 minutes ago, Cappy said:

Do we know what the discrepancy is between the first set of numbers released for enrollments and the second? I've heard the first was fall enrollment numbers and the second is the spring enrollment numbers which is what the IHSAA usually goes by, this is what I was told can anyone confirm or deny? 

I just went through and looked at what was different from the previous version and not trying to stir the pot, the marjoity of discrepancies were with the Private schools. Almost every single one of them had discrepancies in what was reported. Here are the ones I captured.

School / First Set / Second Set / Difference

Decatur Central / 2,011 / 1,812 / -199
Cathedral / 1,251 / 1,073 / -178
FW Dwenger / 1,013 / 928 / -85
Roncalli / 1,090 / 1,081 / -9
Brebeuf / 806 / 841 / +35
SB St. Joseph / 813 / 806 / -7
Evans. Memorial / 791 / 556 / -235
Guerin Catholic / 572 / 740 / +168
Mishawaka Marian / 676 / 690 / +14
Chatard / 662 / 667 / +5
FW Concordia / 645 / 610 / -35
Bremen / 616 / 503 / -113
Andrean / 587 / 408 / -179
FW Luers / 544 / 481 / -63
Evans. Mater Dei / 522 / 496 / -26
Indpls. Ritter / 490 / 502 / +12
Hammond Noll / 404 / 493 / +89
Providence / 460 / 327 / -133
Indpls. Scecina / 332 / 439 / +107
Covenant Christian / 325 / 352 / +27
Lafayette Central Catholic / 227 / 296 / +69
Indpls. Lutheran / 245 / 224 / -21
Oldenburg Academy / 208 / 179 / -29
Traders Point Christian / 122 / 124 / +2

8 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

That was an anomaly due to there having been more than 320 football-playing schools to start the cycle + some success factor adjustments (and the Elkhart/Hammond consolidations) that caused 6A to dip below 32 teams (because the IHSAA didn't want to move teams up for a year) and the weird COVID year extending the cycle by one year. 

The plan, since six classes began, has always been 32 in 6A, 64 in 4A-1A and the remainder in 5A if there are 320+ schools, and 32 in 6A/5A and the remainder spread equally among 4A-1A if there are fewer than 320. 

It's looking like 32/32/63/63/63/63 this time because there appear to be 316 football-playing schools. 

BINGO

@crimsonace1 Could you provide a list of the schools you used? I feel like I must be missing a school because I have 316 total schools.

Even crazier in that situation - obviously there are more factors at play, but you could end up with 17 schools in Class 5A north of U.S. Highway 30! I mean, there are already 15 schools that fit that critera, but if Dwenger accumulates enough points to stay up in 5A when/if those two schools drop to 5A and no other schools from the Region (Valpo, Chesterton, Merrillville being most likely) get an enrollment boost to put them back in 6A... you would likely have to see either Warsaw get put in 5A SOUTH with the Lafayette schools and Anderson included.

13 minutes ago, foxbat said:

This is pretty cool.  Thanks!

BTW, if you look at the 5A map, there's an interesting phenomena compared to the 6A map.  As might be expected, there are lots of schools in the Indy area at 6A, but if you look at 5A, look at that cluster of 5As at the top of the state.  Haven't looked at the details yet, but wondering if there are any close to tipping points to 6A. Another interesting optic is to bring up the map where you can view most of the state on the screen, select just 5A, then select 6A in addition to 5A.  That Indy area just blooms as soon as you click on that 6A.  Interesting comparison between 5A and 6A densities. 

I was just thinking the same thing last night when looking at the numbers. Since the 15-16 count, Warsaw has dropped 5 spots and Northrop has dropped 9 spots while Whiteland has jumped 13 spots and Decatur Central has jumped 18 spots.

That northern part of the state in 5A will continue to grow with the additions of Warsaw and FW Northrop once Whiteland and Decatur Central pass them and go into 6A (making that class even more Indy-centric).

38 minutes ago, foxbat said:

LCC was 2A south this past season, so like you said, it's possible. 

Not sure how LCC being in 2A South has anything to do with the 3 6A Fort Wayne schools being broken up? Are you just meeaning/saying that basically who knows what could happen because the IHSAA has done "random" stuff in the past?

Just now, jets said:

Granted, I'm not a smart guy, so I'll try and lay this out (football years listed)

17- Won State

18- Semi-State appearance 

19&20 - bumped up due to SF

19- sectional loss (no points)

20- semi-state appearance

21&22 - stay up due to semi-state appearance

21- sectional loss

22- ??

23 - ?? 

So, as stated previously - that is a 3 year stay based on the SF? 

It's hard to follow how you laid it out, so let me try a different way.

I believe technically, it's going to be a 6 year stay, all based on the 2020 Regional Championship while in 3A.

The 6 points accumulated from the 2017 and 2018 seasons in 2A bumped them up to 3A.

In the next two-year cylce, 2 points were accumulated thanks to the Regional Championship in 2020. So NO MATTER WHAT - Southridge was going to stay in 3A for the 2021 and 2022 seasons. So next year playing in 3A would have happened COVID be damned.

However, it looks like that 2020 Regional Championship will keep Southridge in 3A for the 2022 and 2023 seasons as well. So I see what you are saying.