BLACKGOLD2007

I agree with you that it is natural to want to look at a player of O'Neil and Cherry's caliber, and want to include their body of work into the conversation. They are deserving of great Honors...It just boils down to Ringer went off this year.. It is almost undeniable.

This is similar to the Colt McCoy argument for Heisman, they guy was the most winningest QB at the time, had a solid senior year, but people were arguing from a career standpoint for him as the Heisman winner.

My guy (Sanders) you have to earn it, not just be given it because you are a school legend. That would be like Florida handing the Keys to Danny Wuerrffel just because he won a natty and the Heisman.

You also have to consider what part of the playoffs we are in. Not every game can be televised and most high school stadiums would require half a dozen, maybe more, additional camera angles to help provide a decent assortment of angles to help do replay. Really right now, until the IHSAA goes to neutral site semi-state games, state is the only place that can handle the angles required to provide the production of angles needed for replay.

I think that is actually the problem in any replay concern at any level. For example, it took a specific camera in the Georgia-Ohio state game to pick up the brock bowers play. That angle is not used in every game during the regular season. Some angles are used only in Televised games, so non televised or regionally televised games have less to work with. as you know means higher failure/call stands rate of replay calls.

Which makes sense...Indiana like many things is behind the times. Thanks @Bobref I was not aware of this.

Ah, now I can see that.

I mean, I think Prime will listen to them especially if the money is right, but would Tallahassee forgive him for taking those jobs?

From the replay, it looked like the ref was in a bad position and not looking at the play. I think this is why there should be some sort of limited replay abilities in the state final game.

This is before I actually paid attention to Mr. Football, but was Drue Tranquill out of Carroll considered for the award?

Look at Basketball last year, Burton wasn't the biggest played, didn't have all the big time offers. But, his stats were undeniable.

He could be in consideration if he wins his position's Mr. Football

Sometimes that is the same person. But, not always. There is a pretty good post in another thread about what they are looking for. From what I gathered, the winner of the award is selected from the group of Mr. Football position winners. So, this young man would need to win his position to even be considered Mr. Football overall.

He really rocks the half smile with the I am terrified to be in front of a camera look.

Zionsville works too. Well I think that this group of dudes could come up with a better system than what the IHSAA currently is working with.

never-mind.. I actually clicked on the BD's profile....that is 10-12 enrollment.

I found a site that has Warren at 3800 kids...BD at 3200 kids https://www.niche.com/k12/search/largest-high-schools/s/indiana/

I hate that they continue to do things like this. Force two good teams from near Indy down into the south. The Ft. Wayne guys could speak to this better, but I doubt Northrop wants to play 6A tourney ball, give them their reprieve and let them go down to 5A. That means there is no need to force anyone south. Portage is not competitive in 6A anymore, send them down to 5A and move Valpo up. Laf Harrison is the wild card, if they move up. I would like to keep Warsaw in 6A, give 5A either Indy Tech or Jeffersonville. That will require one of the teams you listed to move south. Give them Carmel.

Warsaw being a 6A team is a big deal in our area. It is a dying breed up here. My fingers are crossed that you guys stay up.

With the NIC going to a 7 game conference schedule, I am curious if Penn drops either Mishawaka or Carmel... I have not heard a thing on what the plan is....Maybe send the JV to play Washington or Riley is in the cards and we can keep both and add another top 6A program to the schedule.

I hear you, But, even a large school enrollment doesn't even guarantee you being competitive....I mean winning state at this level. Penn and other large 6A north schools.

I would like to see a bit more of a shake up in 6A north, swapping north teams for other north teams, just to make the field a little more competitive. Snider helps, but add Valpo and Harrison could make things a little more interesting in the region. But, that wont happen.

That is a shame, they have been a strong 6A team over the past few years. If that is the case, we could see a sectional shake up that could make things interesting. do they move Portage and Valpo (if they move up) into sectional 2 and have CP, LC and Jeff pick up Carmel. Move Carroll into 3 and push HSE or Fishers into 4. I don't think I have ever seen a Penn v Carmel regional game.

If that is the case Snider moves into Sectional 3 still and Carroll moves into sectional 3 as well. giving an all Fort Wayne sectional. While Valpo or Portage move into sectional 2. Which both have been apart of in the past. I would bet on Valpo since it is closer to the other three schools.

There is always this weird thing the IHSAA does and instead of trying to keep some sort of competitive balance, they water down 6A north and stack 6A south even further. i.e. the Penn Carmel state finals. If Valpo and Snider come up, they could push a combination of HSE, Fisher or Carmel into the South....We know how bull that is. If that is the case you could see Jeffersonville, Columbus North or Indy Tech. move down. Idk enough about school locations in the Indy area to redraw the sectionals.