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1. How do I watch multiple games? I downloaded the plug-in mentioned above and it only allows one window to be "active" at a time. Once I click on another window, the one I left reloads. 2. Is the "roundtable" channel offered going to have multiple games in one window? Is it going to bounce back and forth between games? Trying to get my $19.95's worth.

Makes me now wonder if Mooresville pulls it out tonight if that would be the longest time span between two state finals appearances. 31 years if my math is correct.

Good call.

Nope. Never even been to a title game.

I don't disagree with anything stated here but notice you left out Avon, Brownsburg and Westfield. Look, I don't think anyone is asking the HCC to match the MIC's depth but the time has come for the top tier teams in the HCC to start winning the premier match ups when it counts. There is no reason the three schools above cannot compete with anyone in the MIC...maybe not annually but SOME TIME. Hell, Avon AND Brownsburg both clocked BD (who is playing tonight) in September. As I mentioned in another thread, until HCC schools win one when it counts, no one will take them seriously. Maybe one win is all it takes and the other schools become believers. Hell, Westfield might get a huge opportunity Thanksgiving weekend if tonight's games shake out like I believe they will. They will be playing with house money and have nothing to lose.

More than I am.

Couldn’t tell ya.

With the current coaching regimes in place...nope you can’t. ND will get their chance in 2032...

True but I wonder how much of an immeasurable role that “grit” plays. Maybe in my search for why the HCC hasn’t gotten over the hump it is the lack of toughness that the MIC schools possess. Gave more thought to my FC to the MIC idea. They’d be last in either conference but at least compete better in the non-revenues and have a shorter drive home... Win/win.

Good? Lets not go down this rabbit hole. I respect you too much to derail this thread.

I like my suggestion better. If geography were a factor, the HCC would’ve never considered Franklin Central.

DT will tell you that conference realignment is just a matter of time. He is right in that the profile of Carmel and CG fits in the HCC much more so than the MIC and Covid has only widened the gap. That is yet another reason why BD's upset of Carmel was such a surprise to me (kudos to the posters on here who called it back in August). I know folks get sick and tired of me going back to the same thing, but Carmel (10 percent) and (CG 21 percent) have little in common with the remaining MIC schools other than enrollment. As a matter of fact, if you average the free/reduced numbers of the remaining 5 townships that make up the conference, you get an average of 66 percent. People say it doesn't matter but there is more to life than football. Carmel is bored and will eventually run out of room and start using conference championship trophies as door stops to their classrooms. They are cleaning house in the non-revenue sports and have won the "All-MIC" award every year of its existence. Take the free/reduced numbers of the HCC schools: Zionsville - 5 percent HSE/Fishers - 15 percent Westfield - 17 percent Noblesville - 23 percent Brownsburg - 25 percent Avon - 33 percent Franklin Township - 40 percent FC is in no man's land in the HCC and will never compete in more than 2-3 sports. They are growing, but not as fast as Westfield. Maybe an FC/Avon swap for Carmel/CG is in the future?

Better than Michigan? Not sure what you want from me here...

I’d say any of the big 6 (sorry FC/Noblesville) have a realistic shot if they catch lightning in a bottle. Growing communities with two parent households and athletic departments that are upping their game in their commitment to football. As previously mentioned, I’d expect Westfield to top 3000 students in the next 4-5 years. HSE and Fishers get a “Covid pass” in 2020 in my book as both were breaking in new head coaches. Zionsville is playing its last year EVER in 5A, that’s a fact. They are growing at a quick rate and have a free reduced percentage that is actually lower than Carmel’s (May surprise some.). Avon will remain a factor and actually improved significantly throughout the season, nearly upsetting Brownsburg in the process with a FRESHMAN QB. They have the highest free/reduced numbers outside of FC so their window may be a tad smaller than the others. I just don’t know about Brownsburg. Seems they peaked early and probably have made the biggest commitment to football out of any program in Indiana over the last few years. They have a decent junior class but if this senior class couldn’t get it done, I’d say 2021 is more of the same.

Yep. All public teacher salaries are public information.

Heart says Mooresville...head says Roncalli.

Not denying anything...UM football is mediocre.

Oops. 6-4 in their last 10. Buckeye fans can gimme all the hell they want. They’ve earned it. ND fans? Nah...

LOL, only as good as your last head to head matchup... The argument could be made that Michigan is suffering through its worst stretch over the last decade in 50 years...yet is still 5-5 against ND in the last 10. Hell, Rich Rod and Brady Hoke held their own and had a winning record against ND...

By citing schedule strength (a measurable statistic) and the fact that Westfield has been running roughshod through folks on a weekly basis?

I love how not bowing down and being a MIC blowhard makes one a heel on this website. There is no debate currently, I agree. I’ve given the MIC credit as king and am baffled as to why the HCC has yet to breakthrough. But let’s not pretend that the MIC’s success is some disrespect/under dog story. You have massive enrollments, great facilities, committed athletic departments which allow coaches to make nearly six figures just to supervise a weight room all day and coach football. The HCC has slowly been upgrading their commitment to the sport and with the way the socioeconomics are trending, I still maintain it’s a matter of WHEN and not “if” the HCC gets its breakthrough. Another poster on this forum, gave me 2030 in terms of the MIC winning every 6A title between now and them. I’ll take that bet in a heart beat. So easily triggered, some of you...

Have I mentioned Dwenger got screwed? A travesty.

Don’t forget to “thank the lord because without him, none of this would be possible.”

Good point. I just see much more upside in the HCC schools at this point. That being said, I’d be pretty damn depressed if I were Brownsburg and Lawrence North...probably their most talented teams in school history (yes I’m aware Brownsburg won a title in the 1980s) and zip to show for it. If not now, then when?

It’d be like Illinois and Rutgers boasting about Ohio State making the college football playoff... You don’t get to puff your chest out and claim conference superiority when over half of your conference’s D1 players are on one team.